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No one is saying we won’t have to rotate players given the fixtures and injuries.

 

The point is - what do you want to prioritise?

 

Last night we left players on the bench in a tightly-poised knockout game so they are fresh for Sunday’s tie with Arsenal.

 

For me that’s not right. If we have to chose, I’d genuinely have preferred to have a proper go at the Europa this season. It’s only our third time in Europe FFS 

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5 hours ago, SecretPro said:

At the end of the day if we were skint in Janurary then we will be skint in the summer. If anybody is expecting a big haul of signings then they are probably going to be dissapointed.

there is always better value in the summer as the selling team have a little longer to find a replacement, as it's usually arranged prior to windows opening, Ndidi is the only player I can think of we have bought that has significantly contributed, bought in the January window, Tielmans was January sure but loan initially.

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Just now, leicesterseddon said:

No one is saying we won’t have to rotate players given the fixtures and injuries.

 

The point is - what do you want to prioritise?

 

Last night we left players on the bench in a tightly-poised knockout game so they are fresh for Sunday’s tie with Arsenal.

 

For me that’s not right. If we have to chose, I’d genuinely have preferred to have a proper go at the Europa this season. It’s only our third time in Europe FFS 

Fifth 

 

Personally I’d prioritise the FA Cup over the Europa. 

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5 hours ago, Twitcher said:

Plus all the other sides that compete in CL regularly across Europe and don't become big clubs. There's a list as long as your arm that will mean they'll always be a Shakhtar Donetsk and never a Barcelona regardless of how often they qualify.

This notion that we'll become giants by sacrificing the Europa League and FA Cup by getting in the CL; not for me.

Enjoy some trophies if you can.

The wealth of your owners together with the sheer size of the club; gates, merchandise etc. will determine that. CL will help but it isn't the golden ticket.

The likes of shakhtar dominate their domestic leagues, perpetuaded by the champions league money in comparison with the peanuts from their domestic league. The limiting factor is the league they're in. No club is going grow to be as big as Barca/Real revenue wise in 10/20/30 years, it's a dynasty of success in a top league in the world

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For me..

 

# I Dont prioritise any competition other than PL....Running with Other competitions,beggars cant be choosers.

# I Dont want to be Top 6, I just would be Happy for some hit & run success. Guerrilla tactics.:)

# If We become a Top 6 side,then we have taken the Man.City route...Not my thing..! But man says, Never say never..!!

    I Dont know what People are trying to achieve or say, by trying to find negatives in Everything the Team or Rodgers do.

# only Politicians & Doctors should be Held accountable....

   Football is my pastime, it Hurts when we lose, but I dont choose Blame has my First path,when looking for answers.

 

# Chasing down individual players or the manager for every single game, sorry its Too much for me, I Dont see the sense of it...

    Hounding or Building up agendas...says more about the poster..!!

# W.D.L. Are the normal routines in football,I fail to see any Need to use the word 'should' when looking towards results.

    we should be showing more support on our forum, & be exstatic how the season has ran thus far...

 # it seems we get stuck in a quagmire of Extended misery & delusional entitlement...

 # Yes ,Emotion & knee-jerk Comments are part of the weird characteristics we suffer from following the game,

      but there is also the Light of day, even after defeats... 

 # Why Keep repeating ones dislike for individual players .Managers will Build up their own preferences & their tenure will depend on it..!!

 # Its fair to criticise players & manager, but Why Keep churning it over.. 

 # & FFs, Why try and make up Silly coincidential stats, on past/present achievements on a running career ....:-

    Hes Never gone by last 32, could easily be turned to hes at least got them regularly to the last 32... 

 # We or this is his ceiling...so fking what..!!

 # We make up Silly expectations then cry in frustration, when in a developing period we dont quite reach them,

    and then forget in our arrogance what has been achieved..!

#  Hard go understand.. To draw on negative points arrogantly & conveniently forgetting our injury problems in these last 14 months..

 

 

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, Spudulike said:

Did the club actually make any money out of this after expenses? 

 

What effect has this had on our coefficient? 

I wouldn’t know. 
 

But one thing that many people won’t take into consideration is that every player who played for us in the EL will have made extra money from it. 
 

Take Schlupp for example. He’s on £55,000 a week at Palace. Got an extra £20,000 a week from them because he “didn’t want to lose his champions league money”. 
 

So my point is, where’s that money coming from? The EL pot. 

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On 26/02/2021 at 21:40, leicester4life said:

The likes of shakhtar dominate their domestic leagues, perpetuaded by the champions league money in comparison with the peanuts from their domestic league. The limiting factor is the league they're in. No club is going grow to be as big as Barca/Real revenue wise in 10/20/30 years, it's a dynasty of success in a top league in the world

Shakhtar probably not a good example; but in some of the bigger leagues Lyon, Villarreal, Dortmund......

Maybe the best example is the team that was first mentioned; Spurs. 

I think there's a younger generation that have grown up and see the CL as the holy grail. Don't get me wrong when it was a knock-out European Cup it was the ultimate, but winning it, not just qualifying to be in it.

I'd have an FA Cup any day versus qualifying for the CL and going out in the group stage, or the round after. Realistically we aren't likely to win it, and as Spurs et al are testament to, the money from it isn't life changing.

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On 26/02/2021 at 20:37, leicesterseddon said:

No one is saying we won’t have to rotate players given the fixtures and injuries.

 

The point is - what do you want to prioritise?

 

Last night we left players on the bench in a tightly-poised knockout game so they are fresh for Sunday’s tie with Arsenal.

 

For me that’s not right. If we have to chose, I’d genuinely have preferred to have a proper go at the Europa this season. It’s only our third time in Europe FFS 

Over trying to finish top 4, and a champions league place? 
 

for me personally, to help keep our best players we need top 4. We could have beaten slavia and gone on to have won it, but the additional 7 games in this bizarre of seasons I think would have really damaged us. 
 

we now have 8 days off after Sheffield united, and no more EL midweek fixtures. I think this will be a real blessing going forward, despite how painful Thursday was.
 

I think if we don’t win the FA cup and finish outside the top 4, from that point on, we’d have every right to then complain about the line up in the EL.. 

 

time will tell I guess 

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What players could have been selected on Thursday to avoid rotation? There’s only Barnes who you can argue for.

 

You could say tactically it was naff because we took Youri out of his danger area but personnel, there wasn’t much room unless you are advocating two players returning from injury playing two games in a week 

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1 hour ago, Twitcher said:

Shakhtar probably not a good example; but in some of the bigger leagues Lyon, Villarreal, Dortmund......

Maybe the best example is the team that was first mentioned; Spurs. 

I think there's a younger generation that have grown up and see the CL as the holy grail. Don't get me wrong when it was a knock-out European Cup it was the ultimate, but winning it, not just qualifying to be in it.

I'd have an FA Cup any day versus qualifying for the CL and going out in the group stage, or the round after. Realistically we aren't likely to win it, and as Spurs et al are testament to, the money from it isn't life changing.

There's obviously the prestige that players/fans/clubs want from playing in the CL and I don't know about life changing but just qualifying for the group stages there's a difference between 2.9 mil and 15.2 mil. Winning a group stage difference between 0.5 mil and 2.7 mil. There was a reason that Arsenal's board really only cared about making the CL. That's a bonus of 12.3 mil in the clubs funds. Not including ticket sales (and all the other revenue streams) when the stadiums are full of fans. I'm not even sure realistically we couldn't win it at some point. Spurs made the final, I see no reason we couldn't given the right run but we need to be in the running consistently for that to happen. 

 

I would have an FA cup win over qualifying for the CL. But I think I tend to view a lot of this as "fluid". By that I mean nothing is guaranteed, you're endlessly managing a team that's dealing with fatigue, injuries, players back from injuries... and finally fan expectation. Nobody is going to put all their bags into "win the FA cup basket". I don't believe for a second BR set up on Thursday with his priority as Top 4 in the PL and CL qualification. It's why I don't think if we lose today it will somehow prove he got Thursday wrong.  

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3 hours ago, Hoopla10 said:

There's obviously the prestige that players/fans/clubs want from playing in the CL and I don't know about life changing but just qualifying for the group stages there's a difference between 2.9 mil and 15.2 mil. Winning a group stage difference between 0.5 mil and 2.7 mil. There was a reason that Arsenal's board really only cared about making the CL. That's a bonus of 12.3 mil in the clubs funds. Not including ticket sales (and all the other revenue streams) when the stadiums are full of fans. I'm not even sure realistically we couldn't win it at some point. Spurs made the final, I see no reason we couldn't given the right run but we need to be in the running consistently for that to happen. 

 

I would have an FA cup win over qualifying for the CL. But I think I tend to view a lot of this as "fluid". By that I mean nothing is guaranteed, you're endlessly managing a team that's dealing with fatigue, injuries, players back from injuries... and finally fan expectation. Nobody is going to put all their bags into "win the FA cup basket". I don't believe for a second BR set up on Thursday with his priority as Top 4 in the PL and CL qualification. It's why I don't think if we lose today it will somehow prove he got Thursday wrong.  

£12.3m is nothing these days. What's that at best; a squad player?

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