Patson Daka

[burleighfox]

Richards must be wondering why he bothered coming here.

[Fox92]

35 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Ok we’ve not necessarily ‘ruined him’, but it’s pretty clear that the environment is not one for players reaching their potential, there’s not been a player at the club since KDH who has drastically improved over a sustained period of time. 

Not sure how you expect bad players to become better.

 

Any player that has improved here, or looked any good, have since moved on (KDH as an example). 

We’ve bought a lot of terrible players over a sustained period and Daka is one of them, it has been clear for years he lacks the very basics. Sometimes the player has to look at himself and do more to improve.

[old koppite]

3 hours ago, BKLFox said:

How my brain is coping with the chances yesterday.

Penalty - The Keeper did well to save it, he guessed the right way and anything other than putting it top bins he would have got to it because he guessed right. Had he dived the other way Daka wins the game for us.

Header - He was offside, so on target or not it wouldn’t count.

Oh, I didn’t know the header was offside?

[Lionator]

26 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Not sure how you expect bad players to become better.

 

Any player that has improved here, or looked any good, have since moved on (KDH as an example). 

We’ve bought a lot of terrible players over a sustained period and Daka is one of them, it has been clear for years he lacks the very basics. Sometimes the player has to look at himself and do more to improve.

Daka was not a bad player in the first season he was here. He was the perfect understudy for Vardy and Kel. He’s clearly got worse in this environment. And ultimately of course it’s up to him to improve but surely that comes with coaching? How is he supposed to improve on his own? Do kick ups on sileby park?

[The Doctor]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

Not sure how you expect bad players to become better.

 

Any player that has improved here, or looked any good, have since moved on (KDH as an example). 

We’ve bought a lot of terrible players over a sustained period and Daka is one of them, it has been clear for years he lacks the very basics. Sometimes the player has to look at himself and do more to improve.

it's not just bad players not getting better, it's players with potential squandering that and players with ability regressing. Like that summer 21 window, Soumare and Daka were, on paper, very smart signings - young with a strong record in European top flights, on the radar of big clubs. Neither came close to seeing that potential fulfilled, both in reality regressed. Can also look at players like Justin who move on and suddenly look a lot better. Seagraves facilities are top notch, but without coaches to make use of them they're sort of pointless, and it's very clear that we do not create an environment for players to improve and meet their potential 

[Fox92]

41 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Daka was not a bad player in the first season he was here. He was the perfect understudy for Vardy and Kel. He’s clearly got worse in this environment. And ultimately of course it’s up to him to improve but surely that comes with coaching? How is he supposed to improve on his own? Do kick ups on sileby park?

Might not have been a bad player initially (though I don’t agree) but his basics were always terrible, first touch for starters, and that hasn’t improved.
 

No point in the sarcasm about park when we’ve got a superb training facility. It’s here for players. Of course coaching plays a big part too but there are players that improve themself too (Vardy a great example

of that, Chilwell too). 

 

I don’t deny we do have poor coaching, clearly considering we’re in another relegation battle, but this whole rewording of Daka’s career here is weird considering he’s been awful and hasn’t improved during his whole time here. More money wasted on yet another poor player. 

[Tommy Fresh]

5 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Might not have been a bad player initially (though I don’t agree) but his basics were always terrible, first touch for starters, and that hasn’t improved.
 

No point in the sarcasm about park when we’ve got a superb training facility. It’s here for players. Of course coaching plays a big part too but there are players that improve themself too (Vardy a great example

of that, Chilwell too). 

 

I don’t deny we do have poor coaching, clearly considering we’re in another relegation battle, but this whole rewording of Daka’s career here is weird considering he’s been awful and hasn’t improved during his whole time here. More money wasted on yet another poor player. 

Very unlikely you get picked up and play a considerable amount within the Red Bull system without having or picking up the basics, the bloke has just regressed massively since being with us.

[Fox92]

3 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Very unlikely you get picked up and play a considerable amount within the Red Bull system without having or picking up the basics, the bloke has just regressed massively since being with us.

Not doubting he has regressed with us (I did say he hasn’t improved here) but also I never saw the potential everyone else clearly did.

Edited 22 March by Fox92

[Guppys Love Child]

2 hours ago, burleighfox said:

Richards must be wondering why he bothered coming here.

I agree.

 

Daka I believe is on 4 league goals this season (Pls someone correct me if I'm wrong here) which is poor.

So it's pretty safe to say if we take his current form and also analyse his actual past match time he's not suddenly going to start pulling up tree's overnight and start bagging goals.

 

So I guess my point is, if we can all see it, (and stats back up the fact that he couldn't score in a brothel with £20 in his back pocket,) why did past managers and now currently Rowett not see, accept, work out its not not working (and Ayew is equally guilty as well) and try something different.

 

Its not like we are 5 games in to a new season, we are on sodding 39, so the managers who have all been in the dug-out must all be pretty fvcking thick, or just stubborn ba$tards to not wake up, smell the coffee,and change/adjust something that hasn't worked or improved over near on a whole season.

 

Rowett, just stop being a blind tw@t and bloody play Richards, a home grown talent or a different attacking player out.of position. Just tell Daka and Ayew to stay.at home and watch it on a stream.

We have nothing to loose because if Ayew or Daka get another goal each before the end of the season we'd be lucky.

Edited 22 March by Guppys Love Child

[ashbyj]

Maybe the regression would be far less severe if he could just put the ball in the ****ing net once in a blue moon! 

Edited 22 March by ashbyj

[MC Prussian]

1 hour ago, Guppys Love Child said:

I agree.

 

Daka I believe is on 4 league goals this season (Pls someone correct me if I'm wrong here) which is poor.

So it's pretty safe to say if we take his current form and also analyse his actual past match time he's not suddenly going to start pulling up tree's overnight and start bagging goals.

 

So I guess my point is, if we can all see it, (and stats back up the fact that he couldn't score in a brothel with £20 in his back pocket,) why did past managers and now currently Rowett not see, accept, work out its not not working (and Ayew is equally guilty as well) and try something different.

 

Its not like we are 5 games in to a new season, we are on sodding 39, so the managers who have all been in the dug-out must all be pretty fvcking thick, or just stubborn ba$tards to not wake up, smell the coffee,and change/adjust something that hasn't worked or improved over near on a whole season.

 

Rowett, just stop being a blind tw@t and bloody play Richards, a home grown talent or a different attacking player out.of position. Just tell Daka and Ayew to stay.at home and watch it on a stream.

We have nothing to loose because if Ayew or Daka get another goal each before the end of the season we'd be lucky.

It's three league goals. Three.

 

That is unbelievably poor. He should be in double digits easily. In any given season.

[Tommy Fresh]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

Not doubting he has regressed with us (I did say he hasn’t improved here) but also I never saw the potential everyone else clearly did.

Based on his age and his figures in Austria there was definitely potential and although he's not turned out to be worth it, his profile is exactly who we should have been going for

[gosfox]

Makes Akinbyi look like Pele!!

[cropstonfox]

2 hours ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Based on his age and his figures in Austria there was definitely potential and although he's not turned out to be worth it, his profile is exactly who we should have been going for

We released Vardy to be able to keep on paying Patsons wages.!

[Tommy Fresh]

22 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

We released Vardy to be able to keep on paying Patsons wages.!

Not sure what that's got to do with what I said

[cropstonfox]

8 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Not sure what that's got to do with what I said

Sorry,, just an angry random comment

[CornwallFox]

6 hours ago, Lionator said:

Daka was not a bad player in the first season he was here. He was the perfect understudy for Vardy and Kel. He’s clearly got worse in this environment. And ultimately of course it’s up to him to improve but surely that comes with coaching? How is he supposed to improve on his own? Do kick ups on sileby park?

He was a bad player then also. 

You don't just suddenly lose the ability to trap a football.

[CornwallFox]

3 hours ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Based on his age and his figures in Austria there was definitely potential and although he's not turned out to be worth it, his profile is exactly who we should have been going for

Can't argue with this. he's our worst ever player but, perversely, it was theoretically a great signing. Just unfortunate he's just dog muck. 

[HarryTheGenie]

I have never seen even a glimmer that he is any good at all, for the wages he earns, the transfer fee we paid, he is the worst signing in our history. He makes Ahmed Musa look like Messi, he gets a bit off a pass from a few because he plays in the right spirit, with a smile on his face. 

 

The fact that we have a manager, coaching staff and10 other players on the pitch who thought it would be a good idea for him to take that penalty yesterday tells you all you need to know about this football club and where we are at. We completely deserve to be where we are, we still consider the charitable, 'Give it to Daka it'll do wonders for his confidence' angle, less than 2 months after we did the same to try and boost Ayew's confidence, it is mind-numbingly brain dead however you look at it. At 3-0 yeah give it the lad who needs a boost, but at 0-0 in a crucial game, he should of been nowhere near it!

[Guy]

8 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Not sure how you expect bad players to become better.

 

Any player that has improved here, or looked any good, have since moved on (KDH as an example). 

We’ve bought a lot of terrible players over a sustained period and Daka is one of them, it has been clear for years he lacks the very basics. Sometimes the player has to look at himself and do more to improve.

He's probably paid too much per week to give a shit for any of that sadly!

[Sammytielemans8]

season ticket holder for 15 years. 

 

not going down anymore. the quality is so poor. daka, choudhury, thomas etc. Just a waste of time for me now.

 

Coupled with the fact with no change at the top

[l444ry]

As poor as Daka has been he's yet another Striker that has suffered over the last few years playing in a system with two out and out wingers and one man up top with personnel not suited to it. Even Vardy was made to look ordinary most of the time. If my memory serves correctly some were even suggesting he should retire he was that anonymous in games. Probably leaving us will kick start his career somewhere.   

[Foxin_Mad]

The big problem is we have played this horrible tippy tappy style for the best part of 5 years, we have not created a lot of chances for strikers at all. Vardy would go hunting. Obviously he needs to do better but it’s a combination of factors and his confidence is now gone.,

[Sol thewall Bamba]

25 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

The big problem is we have played this horrible tippy tappy style for the best part of 5 years, we have not created a lot of chances for strikers at all. Vardy would go hunting. Obviously he needs to do better but it’s a combination of factors and his confidence is now gone.,

How does our style of play impact his ability to score a penalty or hit the target with that header from 4 yards? He is just shit, always has been.

[promised land]

1 minute ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

How does our style of play impact his ability to score a penalty or hit the target with that header from 4 yards? He is just shit, always has been.

Careful now, some FT posters won’t like that.

 

I totally agree though.