Popular Post Realist Guy In The Room Posted 4 October 2022 Popular Post Posted 4 October 2022 38 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I was absolutely tearing my hair out every time the ball got behind our defence. He looked terrified to come anywhere out of his goal it was absolutely alarming. The worst one was when people in the International Space Station could see with the naked eye that Castagne was shielding the ball for him to come and collect it and he still refused to come out. Maddening. Whilst i’m all for a good Danny Ward bashing, that situation was Castagne’s fault and his alone. If a keeper doesn’t come for it or shout that he’s coming, you don’t ever try and make that decision for them, it’s just asking for trouble. If you’re a defender, unless you hear the keeper shout, get ****ing rid of it. 5
Matt_Lcfc Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 (edited) Happy that he got a clean sheet, but he has to go. Was fortunate not to concede last night, he is just so indecisive. When Awioyni hit the post, I have no idea what he was doing. He appeared to have no idea as to whether he should stay on his line, or go out. It just meant that he was caught in no man’s land. We really need to give Iversen a run in the side. Edited 4 October 2022 by Matt_Lcfc 4
honeybradger Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 55 minutes ago, Finnegan said: In fairness, if Henderson keeps performing like he did last night then WH will be starting soon enough. Beaten at his near post and beaten by a free kick on which he was actually standing the side it went in and he moved away. Abysmal. Maddison wouldn't have gone to Henderson's near side if he couldnt already tell that Henderson was going to the opposite side. Really poor from a keeper at this level to make it obvious that you're going to commit to one side of the goal on a free kick.
fuchsntf Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 (edited) First I would of preferred Iversen. Not just Rodgers..any Manager. Ward was a patient understudy to Schmeichel.Individial talks on the odd game & promises would of been made as to many long service Fringe players.. Rodgers in this case would have words with both Ward & Iversen..One topic.. ( Most relevant to fans) would be ok you get the first call...in this case Ward. Now Ward will also have his expectations on a first call period,also not expecting a complete team failure of picking up early points. I as a player ..GK after my service & patience, certain amount of loyalty & holding to club promises,would now expect once the descision made a fair 8-10 game allowance. Creeky defence,known weaknesses..let us get to know each other period in game situation.. 'Most' goals were down to downright other players failings, though I should of still stopped a couple... Give the guy time to breath... like KDH ( not so drastic) but like Vardy, Even Kasper.. We has LCFC fans should understand, Late career surges.. Even if toward season end Iversen is between the sticks,Ward earns(ed) the right to be given this first ( agreed) period.. Even Iversen would of been thrown to the Lions situation,with our defensive & Set piece attrocities & demanded loudly,( inside the walls) time in real gametime to get associated with back 5. I reckon Ward will get a 8-12 game period...Depending on risk & reliability level. New boy Faes,& Evans can help. Rodgers may believe,club has given me time & support, I will give Ward the same. Edited 4 October 2022 by fuchsntf 2
francis39 Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: He needs replacing but pleased for him to get a clean sheet. More because the backline was decent today and the forest offence is bad, than he played well.
francis39 Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 1 hour ago, Finnegan said: In fairness, if Henderson keeps performing like he did last night then WH will be starting soon enough. Beaten at his near post and beaten by a free kick on which he was actually standing the side it went in and he moved away. Abysmal. Hennessey will still be the world cup no.1 of wales becoz Ward is bad in the league, even if he doesnt play, especially since there r no warmup matches before the WC and you do not suddenly change your starters without any match practice. However, if he is thrown into the lineup, he may concede even more goals than Ward becoz of the poor forest backline and it could indeed ruin his place! 😂😂😂
Pedro02 Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 59 minutes ago, honeybradger said: Maddison wouldn't have gone to Henderson's near side if he couldnt already tell that Henderson was going to the opposite side. Really poor from a keeper at this level to make it obvious that you're going to commit to one side of the goal on a free kick. I'm not sure many keepers in the league would have saved the free-kick, even if they had gone that way. There was plenty of speed and a bit of curl on it, plus it was right off of the post. Was just a moment of pure quality IMO. 3 1
francis39 Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 2 hours ago, Pedro02 said: I'm not sure many keepers in the league would have saved the free-kick, even if they had gone that way. There was plenty of speed and a bit of curl on it, plus it was right off of the post. Was just a moment of pure quality IMO. Maddison has been the only bright spot of the club this season. Big contrast with Ward, Ndidi and Amartey, although the latter two are played out of position
Supergray22 Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 26 minutes ago, francis39 said: Maddison has been the only bright spot of the club this season. Big contrast with Ward, Ndidi and Amartey, although the latter two are played out of position With respect Danny is being played out of position at the moment. His place should be on the bench not the pitch. I can’t remember a game where maddison was more influential than last night. He really shone bright. 1
francis39 Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 41 minutes ago, Supergray22 said: With respect Danny is being played out of position at the moment. His place should be on the bench not the pitch. I can’t remember a game where maddison was more influential than last night. He really shone bright. he scored a goal against arsenal and then ward immediately dropped a howler to make it 1:3 LOL Danny is not good enough even for the bench. That ppl said he is a starter of a mid-level PL team so he should start for Wales is a joke. Everybody can see he’s not good enough, it’s just Brendon’s stubbornness kept him in. 1
pedmcl Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 Really liked the bit in the first half last night when he claimed a high ball and a section of the support sang his name. No goalkeeper has ever performed well whilst low on confidence - we need to get behind him. He might not be our number 1 forever but he is for now and I'm surprised there are some still looking to criticise him after a clean sheet. Gotta take those little Ws and hopefully will lead to strides in improvement.
francis39 Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 52 minutes ago, pedmcl said: Really liked the bit in the first half last night when he claimed a high ball and a section of the support sang his name. No goalkeeper has ever performed well whilst low on confidence - we need to get behind him. He might not be our number 1 forever but he is for now and I'm surprised there are some still looking to criticise him after a clean sheet. Gotta take those little Ws and hopefully will lead to strides in improvement. That a GK earns a CS doesnt mean he plays well; and that a GK conceded a lot of goals doesnt mean he played badly. He was criticised due to his poor positioning, kicking, commanding and handling of long ball. These problems exist no matter he conceded a lot of goals or 0 goals throughout the season
dynamark Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 Bit cross we are still having a pop after last night. The Castagne one was never a position to pass back because the striker was closing in so fast and Ward went over to have a word as they left at half time.Two others when he came out he didnt want to be clattering into the attacker for an almost certain pen.Great save by his feet at the end Mind still makes me nervous but he is taller than Kasper so Im hoping for better long term at corners.Clean sheet as they say in the hotel trade. 1
pedmcl Posted 4 October 2022 Posted 4 October 2022 52 minutes ago, francis39 said: That a GK earns a CS doesnt mean he plays well; and that a GK conceded a lot of goals doesnt mean he played badly. He was criticised due to his poor positioning, kicking, commanding and handling of long ball. These problems exist no matter he conceded a lot of goals or 0 goals throughout the season My point was that it's one step at a time when it comes to building a players confidence back up - particularly with goalkeeping. He was criticised previously for those things, but last night those problems weren't evident, so hopefully it's the start of an upturn in form. It was a relatively quiet evening for him, but what he did have to do I thought he did well. The early corner is the only minor criticism I can have but that would be me being hypercritical.
francis39 Posted 5 October 2022 Posted 5 October 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, pedmcl said: My point was that it's one step at a time when it comes to building a players confidence back up - particularly with goalkeeping. He was criticised previously for those things, but last night those problems weren't evident, so hopefully it's the start of an upturn in form. It was a relatively quiet evening for him, but what he did have to do I thought he did well. The early corner is the only minor criticism I can have but that would be me being hypercritical. that 1 on1 … he came out , and retreated, and came out again. if it was anyone better than awoniyi, we would have lost the match Edited 5 October 2022 by francis39 1
MalletFox Posted 5 October 2022 Posted 5 October 2022 3 hours ago, francis39 said: that 1 on1 … he came out , and retreated, and came out again. if it was anyone better than awoniyi, we would have lost the match He was hesitant off his line a couple of times, but that’s reflective of his confidence being in the gutter I think. We defo wouldn’t have lost the game against Forest, we battered them! They are awful.
blue army 1988 Posted 5 October 2022 Posted 5 October 2022 Give the guy a break. He's extremely low on confidence and needs to build himself back up. We won and kept a clean sheet. That's all that matters. We go on. 1
smudger63 Posted 5 October 2022 Posted 5 October 2022 27 minutes ago, blue army 1988 said: Give the guy a break. He's extremely low on confidence and needs to build himself back up. We won and kept a clean sheet. That's all that matters. We go on. Low on confidence but also no where near good enough to be at the level we are playing at. I honestly don't even believe he's championship level. One thing is for sure, we will continue to have big problems while we play him, and he will cost us far more points than he saves us.
phoneticerror Posted 5 October 2022 Posted 5 October 2022 1 minute ago, smudger63 said: Low on confidence but also no where near good enough to be at the level we are playing at. I honestly don't even believe he's championship level. One thing is for sure, we will continue to have big problems while we play him, and he will cost us far more points than he saves us. Any other side would’ve got several past him on Monday night. I’m amazed Florist didn’t manage to. 1
themightyfin Posted 5 October 2022 Posted 5 October 2022 OK OK. He's clearly lacking in confidence right now we can all see that. But a clean sheet Is what every keeper strives for. May have had a couple of heart bumping moments but he got through it with no glaring errors. I think there's a lot of people here scrutinising his every move that have never even played in goal before and are suddenly experts at the position. OK It was only Forest and wasn't tested too much but he can only play what's in front of him. Do I think he's good enough to be our number 1 ? Possibly not But hopefully this gives him a bit of confidence and he can push on from here. Hrs not the only player to have struggled this season it's just unfortunate his position is exposed and easily highlighted when mistakes happen. 1
grumpy old git Posted 5 October 2022 Posted 5 October 2022 I really feel for Danny Ward at the moment he wait and wait for his big chance and whe he gets it he looks so shacky and unsure out there, I am not saying Iversen would have done any better but unless either looks likely to be close to Kasper we will be looking for a new keeper in January.
pedmcl Posted 5 October 2022 Posted 5 October 2022 11 hours ago, francis39 said: that 1 on1 … he came out , and retreated, and came out again. if it was anyone better than awoniyi, we would have lost the match Wow, that's harsh.
francis39 Posted 5 October 2022 Posted 5 October 2022 1 minute ago, pedmcl said: Wow, that's harsh. so playing better than his usual level = good enough? LoL
Mickyblueeyes Posted 5 October 2022 Posted 5 October 2022 21 hours ago, francis39 said: That a GK earns a CS doesnt mean he plays well; and that a GK conceded a lot of goals doesnt mean he played badly. He was criticised due to his poor positioning, kicking, commanding and handling of long ball. These problems exist no matter he conceded a lot of goals or 0 goals throughout the season This exactly. The clean sheet did nothing for Ward apart from show he had a lot of luck. He flapped twice in the first half. Made that ridiculous indecisive error but was met by two out form strikers and then tried a punch which was a pat and got away with it. On another day he costs us at least 1 goal and that is being nice. It was another very poor performance by a very poor player. 1
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