The ashes 2023

[goose2010]

ball is moving all over the place which is great for the bowlers. 

[StanSP]

When do England declare? With potentially only today and tomorrow to play to bowl Aus out in near-perfect conditions, how much of a lead do England need? 200? 250?

[foxfanazer]

Quite looking forward to seeing us bowl. Declare after another 50 runs maybe?

 

Edit: if we get there of course

Edited 21 July 2023 by foxfanazer

[leicsmac]

3 minutes ago, StanSP said:

When do England declare? With potentially only today and tomorrow to play to bowl Aus out in near-perfect conditions, how much of a lead do England need? 200? 250?

Not even that, do it at lunch no matter the lead. Time is a real factor. If we don't bowl them out today, then the draw is near inevitable anyway.

Edited 21 July 2023 by leicsmac

[CosbehFox]

Aussies taking the urine on this over rate

[foxfanazer]

Oooh Johnny B!

[st albans fox]

Sadly I reckon we’re screwed 

the Aussies bowling slowly (23 overs in two hours) 

Don’t think theres enough time to bowl them out below 200 

[trabuch]

JB has come good.

[st albans fox]

5 minutes ago, StanSP said:

When do England declare? With potentially only today and tomorrow to play to bowl Aus out in near-perfect conditions, how much of a lead do England need? 200? 250?

Tomorrows probably a wash out Sunil 

[Voll Blau]

18 minutes ago, Izzy said:

I don't mind the "Same old Aussies always cheating" but Starcs foot was a mile in. 

Booing a bloke for standing on a shadow is the most Old Trafford Party Stand thing to happen ever.

 

Makes me all the more upset I'm not likely to end up spending any time there tomorrow.

[foxfanazer]

Great over

[foxfanazer]

2 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Great over

Never post this 5 balls into an over

 

Still doesn't really matter that much

[HighPeakFox]

6 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Quite looking forward to seeing us bowl. Dellclate after another 50 runs maybe?

 

Edit: if we get there of course

Loving your edit.

[st albans fox]

I doubt we waste the ten minutes to declare during the afternoon session 

 

declare now I think 

[goose2010]

i would declare now i think 

[foxfanazer]

4 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I doubt we waste the ten minutes to declare during the afternoon session 

 

declare now I think 

That's a good point. Would've liked another 40-50 points on the board but the time seems more important 

[trabuch]

If this is the same England that declared on day 1 of the first test you'd think they would declare now. But I reckon they'll push on. I expect they have the most accurate forecast available and will have it worked out.

[leicsmac]

14 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Aussies taking the urine on this over rate

Absolutely. But if the positions were reversed I'd be pushing for the exact same and praying for rain.

 

4 minutes ago, trabuch said:

If this is the same England that declared on day 1 of the first test you'd think they would declare now. But I reckon they'll push on. I expect they have the most accurate forecast available and will have it worked out.

This is interesting. I wonder what kind of resources they would have access to on this matter that Joe Public would not? The Met Office is a public domain organisation, after all.

[Sparrowhawk]

29 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Not even that, do it at lunch no matter the lead. Time is a real factor. If we don't bowl them out today, then the draw is near inevitable anyway.

I'm not so sure. Tomorrow could be a total washout, but there could well be plenty of play today and on the last day, and I'm not sure that apart from Smith, Khawaja and maybe Labuschagne, Australia have anyone capable of batting with the attitude of 'just don't get out,' so they could easily fail to bat it out.

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Sparrowhawk said:

I'm not so sure. Tomorrow could be a total washout, but there could well be plenty of play today and on the last day, and I'm not sure that apart from Smith, Khawaja and maybe Labuschagne, Australia have anyone capable of batting with the attitude of 'just don't get out,' so they could easily fail to bat it out.

I would agree, but if that's the case then them falling sooner rather than later would add extra insurance in case of the weather anyhow. At the very least, it would cost nothing.

[Sparrowhawk]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

I would agree, but if that's the case then them falling sooner rather than later would add extra insurance in case of the weather anyhow. At the very least, it would cost nothing.

Oh, I agree with the 'declare now' bit, just not that the draw is so inevitable.

[leicsmac]

Just now, Sparrowhawk said:

Oh, I agree with the 'declare now' bit, just not that the draw is so inevitable.

I hope that it isn't, but I also think it's better not to take the chance when we don't have to.

[st albans fox]

22 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Absolutely. But if the positions were reversed I'd be pushing for the exact same and praying for rain.

 

This is interesting. I wonder what kind of resources they would have access to on this matter that Joe Public would not? The Met Office is a public domain organisation, after all.

There is no forecast for the next 48 hours which is isnt publicly available 

 

Sunday could offer some windows if they manage to cover the whole playing surface tomorrow 

[st albans fox]

Now it’s raining they may as well declare - like pitting under the safety car - they’ve lost the time anyway so may as well use it 

 

if they don’t then it must mean they believe they will get a few hours in on Sunday 

[trabuch]

36 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Absolutely. But if the positions were reversed I'd be pushing for the exact same and praying for rain.

 

This is interesting. I wonder what kind of resources they would have access to on this matter that Joe Public would not? The Met Office is a public domain organisation, after all.

Radars and stuff - but I haven't looked at the radar. The F1 chaps seem to know more than I ever do.