Also In The News - part 3

[Wymsey]

 

 

[Finnegan]

I mean, the man is 75 years old. 

 

Regardless of a cancer diagnosis they obviously will be planning for his succession. He was never going to have a long reign. 

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

I mean, the man is 75 years old. 

 

Regardless of a cancer diagnosis they obviously will be planning for his succession. He was never going to have a long reign. 

Yep - without some context it’s meaningless

i mean he’s the king - he could be in a plane crash tomorrow- there has ti be a succession plan from the moment the queen died 

 

if they mean he’s getting involved with personal tweaks and detailed plans about his funeral then I guess that could be notable but given that it would be a state affair, you’d want to get all the personal nuances dealt with well ahead of time anyway. 
 

susepct it’s a non story 

[Zear0]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68392621

 

Bellend

[Fox in the North]

2 hours ago, Zear0 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68392621

 

Bellend

Funny how quiet other, normally vocal, posters have been about this news.

[Parafox]

3 hours ago, Wymsey said:

 

 

 

Is it too late to change my Deathlist predictions?

[Parafox]

9 minutes ago, Fox in the North said:

Funny how quiet other, normally vocal, posters have been about this news.

 

It's only been 2 hours since the post and many have been out and about. Give it time. I'm sure there'll be plenty. 

[Parafox]

3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Yep - without some context it’s meaningless

i mean he’s the king - he could be in a plane crash tomorrow- there has ti be a succession plan from the moment the queen died 

 

if they mean he’s getting involved with personal tweaks and detailed plans about his funeral then I guess that could be notable but given that it would be a state affair, you’d want to get all the personal nuances dealt with well ahead of time anyway. 
 

susepct it’s a non story 

There'd have been a succession plan before this. 

[Daggers]

11 hours ago, Sampson said:

Yep. Agree totally with both of you. She was a British citizen and born and raised in the UK. It’s washing our hands of a problem of our own culture’s creation.

 

Saying she should be allowed back in the country isn’t saying she shouldn’t be punished. But stripping someone of their citizenship is banishment and strikes me as incredibly archaic and just strikes me as typical British exceptionalism. 

 

Let’s just say, I imagine the Venn diagram of crossover of people claiming it’s right she should be stripped of citizenship and those who would be livid if it was the other way round as you said is of high crossover. 
 

Also, it’s not just under British law we shouldn’t render someone stateless - it’s under international law and part of the Geneva convention.

 

[Jon the Hat]

3 hours ago, Daggers said:

 

Quite different cases imo, and I think the fact that Islamist terrorism has been a lot more prominent in recent years is a factor in the responses.

[Jon the Hat]

10 hours ago, Zear0 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68392621

 

Bellend

Am I surprised?  No, the guy is an idiot.  Glad to see him suspended.  The problem for the conservatives these days is half their MPs seem to be idiots in different ways, and I am not so sure this isn't true across politics.

[fox_up_north]

I've worked with kids in care who are ex county lines and a lad who needed intervention because he was getting into EDL activity. Before I did that, I'd have put the blame squarely on Begum herself.

 

However, having seen the lengths that these people go to, the techniques used by drug dealers, paedophiles and terrorist groups are all the same - find someone vulnerable, offer them something seemingly good and then exploit. 

 

Begum's world view is probably so warped now that she won't fit in anywhere. I don't necessarily feel bad for who she is now but if you can feel sorry/ understanding for a grown adult who handed over thousands to a fraudster, then it bears similarity to a teenage girl who ran away with older men. That's kind of what it boils down to.

 

Personally, I'd want to see her brought back, normalised and used to show these tw@ts that long term, their methods don't work.

[Daggers]

7 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

Quite different cases imo, and I think the fact that Islamist terrorism has been a lot more prominent in recent years is a factor in the responses.

Piffle.

[Daggers]

Another normal day on normal island. 
 

 

[Dunge]

32 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Another normal day on normal island. 
 

 

Personally I think it’s clever. You can’t have junior doctor strikes if you don’t have any junior doctors.

Problem solved.

Edited 25 February 2024 by Dunge

[Jimothy]

1 hour ago, Daggers said:

Another normal day on normal island. 
 

 

Brexit means we can train our own they all said 🙄

[Daggers]

[Robo61]

2 hours ago, Daggers said:

Hope they try it for their FA  Cup tie this week

[Mickyblueeyes]

I’ve always been a floating voter. Never felt the need to affiliate with one party and far better to understand manifestos/the quality of the local candidate. 
 

HOWEVER, if there ever was a party that needed a complete purge, it’s the ****ing tories. What a horrendous bunch of imbeciles. There remains some, not many but some, good people in the tories. It’s important for them they get rid of the bigots who have hijacked their party. 

[Zear0]

4 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I’ve always been a floating voter. Never felt the need to affiliate with one party and far better to understand manifestos/the quality of the local candidate. 
 

HOWEVER, if there ever was a party that needed a complete purge, it’s the ****ing tories. What a horrendous bunch of imbeciles. There remains some, not many but some, good people in the tories. It’s important for them they get rid of the bigots who have hijacked their party. 

Boris purged the moderates leaving a majority that can best be described as "a bit UKIPy"

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I’ve always been a floating voter. Never felt the need to affiliate with one party and far better to understand manifestos/the quality of the local candidate. 
 

HOWEVER, if there ever was a party that needed a complete purge, it’s the ****ing tories. What a horrendous bunch of imbeciles. There remains some, not many but some, good people in the tories. It’s important for them they get rid of the bigots who have hijacked their party. 

There is a basic problem with politicians 

 

to be a politician, you need to be an effective  public speaker and have the confidence of appearing in front of groups (big and small) 

 

that means a large number of decent good intelligent people are unable to become involved in making decisions on how the country is run.  We limit the base of who we have to choose from.  This is true all across the globe.

did we had better politicians when things were on the radio rather than tv.   (Especially live tv) 

 

 

 

[Daggers]

11 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Boris purged the moderates leaving a majority that can best be described as "a bit UKIPy"

That moment has come and gone. 
 

They can best be described as “a bit BNPy” these days. 

[Foxdiamond]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

There is a basic problem with politicians 

 

to be a politician, you need to be an effective  public speaker and have the confidence of appearing in front of groups (big and small) 

 

that means a large number of decent good intelligent people are unable to become involved in making decisions on how the country is run.  We limit the base of who we have to choose from.  This is true all across the globe.

did we had better politicians when things were on the radio rather than tv.   (Especially live tv) 

 

 

 

I doubt the likes of a Clem Attlee would get a look in these days no matter how capable 

[Daggers]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

There is a basic problem with politicians 

 

to be a politician, you need to be an effective  public speaker and have the confidence of appearing in front of groups (big and small) 

 

that means a large number of decent good intelligent people are unable to become involved in making decisions on how the country is run.  We limit the base of who we have to choose from.  This is true all across the globe.

did we had better politicians when things were on the radio rather than tv.   (Especially live tv) 

 

 

 

If you can’t speak in public and convince people of your ideas then what good are you?

 

“Decent, good intelligent” people who want to impose their genius on populations without scrutiny are more than slightly troubling. 

[Jon the Hat]

6 hours ago, Daggers said:

If you can’t speak in public and convince people of your ideas then what good are you?

 

“Decent, good intelligent” people who want to impose their genius on populations without scrutiny are more than slightly troubling. 

Like Dominic Cummings, wants to rip up the civil service without doing any of the hard work of a) getting elected and put in a position of power or b) working his way up through the civil service.  Oh and taking zero accountability for anything.  Its not really a positive.  If you cannot by the time you are in your 40s stand up and speak about what you think you can bring to running the country then politics was never for you.