Hamza Choudhury

[whoareyaaa]

5 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

This is what you’ll get from Hamza. One week he will be guff, the next he will be alright, the next he will be three beers deep on the A46.

A modern day Roy Keane

[Vindaloo FOX]

Keep him at right back 

[tomtom]

15 hours ago, FLAN said:

Just me that thought he was poor bringing it out and very sloppy first half?

Not just you,  he's awful on the ball.... everything goes backwards, or he loses it when going forward 

Edited 24 August 2025 by tomtom

[Tommy Fresh]

1 hour ago, tomtom said:

Not just you,  he's awful on the ball.... everything goes backwards, or he loses it when going forward 

Did he lose it going forward yesterday? Remember him playing forward to Fatawu a number of times yesterday

[tomtom]

1 hour ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Did he lose it going forward yesterday? Remember him playing forward to Fatawu a number of times yesterday

Yes, he lost it a few times.... but mainly played it backwards to the CBs 

[Tommy Fresh]

10 minutes ago, tomtom said:

Yes, he lost it a few times.... but mainly played it backwards to the CBs 

I could probably watch some clips now and see him pass forward to Fatawu numerous times and not lose it. Fair enough you clearly don't like the bloke, but at least just acknowledge he was very good yesterday.

[trooky]

6 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

I could probably watch some clips now and see him pass forward to Fatawu numerous times and not lose it. Fair enough you clearly don't like the bloke, but at least just acknowledge he was very good yesterday.

Yes he was good yesterday, had the most successful final 3rd passes (11) than anyone in the team, by contrast Skipp managed 12 accurate passes in total. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

19 hours ago, brockmyster said:

Whilst he has a questionable attitude off the pitch with his scandals the one thing clicked for me with him today was he gets it. Armband on in that huddle he orchestrated everyone coming over near the city end for it. All game he was shouting encouraging, especially the two young lads and at the end leading the walk over to the fans. He will always get his criticism from a section of our fans as he isn't a world beater but my god the boy gets it and is worth his weight in gold in this division.

Saw this yesterday, Page did a great run and cross into the box, we won a corner. No-one other than Hamza said anything of encouragement or praise to the lad.

 

I don't rate him, but I think he's being played out of position. He's being played as a RB and asked to pass the ball around, but he's not very good at passing, so it just highlights his obvious weakness.

[tomtom]

2 hours ago, Tommy Fresh said:

I could probably watch some clips now and see him pass forward to Fatawu numerous times and not lose it. Fair enough you clearly don't like the bloke, but at least just acknowledge he was very good yesterday.

I've actually got nothing against him at all, he's a very committed player... will give everything,  but he's very poor with the ball

[coolhandfox]

Git better as the game went on, Riccy being back means he give us another option for CM.

[SilvaFox]

Not bad for someone who supposedly isn't good enough eh 

[Stadt]

I don't rate him particularly but with our lack of depth, he's become important as a DM and RB option. He's a better fullback than midfielder from what we've seen.

[Blueman1967]

Had a great game at Charlton, keep him at right back for Friday

[Sunbury Fox]

Agree he played well overall at Charlton but I still found that he was too casual in closing down opposing players, often allowing them time to shoot or cross under no pressure. This very approach led directly to the 2nd Huddersfield goal in the Cup match. 

[Bordersfox]

27 minutes ago, SilvaFox said:

Not bad for someone who supposedly isn't good enough eh 

According to some on here Okoli had a shocker as well.  That was a hostile environment at the Valley with no noise from our end.  Players showed some b0llocks, I for one will embrace it. 

[izzymuzzet]

27 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

Agree he played well overall at Charlton but I still found that he was too casual in closing down opposing players, often allowing them time to shoot or cross under no pressure. This very approach led directly to the 2nd Huddersfield goal in the Cup match. 

Yep, he did this several times and it's been a major fault in his game for several years. 

 

In a backs to the wall situation like the last 30 minutes on Saturday he's useful. Good at blocking, last ditch tackles etc. Similar to his man of the match performance against West Brom in our promotion season. Unfortunately he is sloppy in possession, switches off too often and is poor positionally. He scored a good goal against Huddersfield but was otherwise really bad, and was atrocious when he came on at Preston.

 

He's far from our biggest problem, but he's a limited player and if we're relying on him in either central midfield or at right back this season we're in bother. 

[JimJams]

I think Marti has to start getting some level of consistency in how he wants our fullbacks to play/perform.  If we want the RB to invert alongside the midfield then Hamza can do the job adequately when Ricardo isn't available.  But I didn't see that really.  He's looked more like your regular traditional style fullback but offers nothing in the attack.  Similar thing goes for the LB, where in a few preseason games there looked a defined role to get up and support the winger, again that seems to have gone a bit wayward.

 

Inverting under Maresca worked well because we got more out of Ricardo and had 2 8's.  But we've got little creative output in the middle of the park so might need more from our fullbacks going forward, and Hamza offers very little in that sense.

[LFox99]

1 hour ago, SilvaFox said:

Not bad for someone who supposedly isn't good enough eh 

Here we go again with the "oh look he's actually decent, why not keep him" after a single ****ing game. 

I've had it up to here with this ever repeating cycle, especially with Choudhury. In the cup it didn't even take him a 2nd game to undo all the good he had done. He's a bomb scare and just because he managed 90 minutes without one against a league one side for a change, doesn't mean he won't be back to his inconsistent self. Let's be real, the ONLY reason Hamza is still with us is because every single window where we'd have looked to move him on, we had other fires to put out first and address and when we didn't we just got relegated and couldn't afford letting him go. 

People like to point fingers at Vesty and Soumaré and say they embody everything that's wrong with the club. They're right, but Hamza is just as much a part of that. 

Edited 26 August 2025 by LFox99

[LFox99]

45 minutes ago, Bordersfox said:

According to some on here Okoli had a shocker as well.  That was a hostile environment at the Valley with no noise from our end.  Players showed some b0llocks, I for one will embrace it. 

I wouldn't say Okoli had a shocker, he just completely needlessly played the ball to the opponent two or three times that game without any pressure on him. And every single one of those situations ended up with us getting turned over and conceding a corner or chances. 

[Jimmy]

1 hour ago, Blueman1967 said:

Had a great game at Charlton, keep him at right back for Friday

if Ricardo is fit enough you start him, he's on a different level to Hamza

[Blueman1967]

 

10 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

if Ricardo is fit enough you start him, he's on a different level to Hamza

Maybe Ricardo in midfield a better bet

Edited 26 August 2025 by Blueman1967

[Big_Nige]

1 hour ago, Blueman1967 said:

Had a great game at Charlton, keep him at right back for Friday

I thought he was poor first half, moved the ball slowly and took the safe option constantly. Might be the midfield not showing, but as captain he should be setting the tone. He was too safe and too slow. Their winger and left back gave him problems too
 

Second half he was much better, quicker to engage their players, made some crucial blocks and has got his ‘fro to thank for stopping a certain goal 

 

Huddersfield was similar, won goal of the season, gave away a daft penalty. 
 

That sums up Hamza, sometimes good, sometimes bad. he goes from an 8 to a 3 in the same game all the time. I don’t trust him at right back, certainly one that doesn’t invert. Not positionally good aware enough and doesn’t give you anything going forward

 

 

[Jimmy]

1 minute ago, Blueman1967 said:

 

Maybe Ricardo in midfield a better bet

I wouldn't be against that idea but I don't think Marti will do it

[JimJams]

3 minutes ago, Blueman1967 said:

 

Maybe Ricardo in midfield a better bet

That's the idea behind inverting though.

If you start Riccy in midfield what are we expecting our RB to do?

If he inverts then we have a base of Riccy and Hamza. Which I'm OK with but is it optimal?

And if he doesn't then Hamza offers nothing in support of Fatawu.

Edited 26 August 2025 by JimJams

[Jimmy]

3 minutes ago, JimJams said:

That's the idea behind inverting though.

If you start Riccy in midfield what are we expecting our RB to do?

If he inverts then we have a base of Riccy and Hamza. Which I'm OK with but is it optimal?

And if he doesn't then Hamza offers nothing in support of Fatawu.

we're playing 2 DMs so the full backs aren't meant to be inverting into DM unless one of the DMs have gone forward they are supposed to support the 3 behind the striker more