King Power

[dillonpanthers87]

Hopefully this doesn't get removed - nor should it.

 

Aside from performance on the pitch - when was the last period of time the club felt truly well managed? The question is one of opinion, granted. 2017 onwards?

 

We all have individuals in mind as to who should take responsibility - but let's talk about accountability.

 

At what point do we question the 'owners' - and I use that term loosely, they own the club financially - the fanbase are the club. Cliche questions - what's the vision? Where is the communication? 

 

Be careful what you wish for with owners, granted. But the KP ownership of before feels very different to the ownership of today. DoF, whoever - these are employees. We know who continues to employ them. Ownership is one thing - what about leadership?

[Aus Fox]

The simple answer to your question is we don’t know, we’ve got no idea about the inner workings of the club and how well it’s run.

Part of the problem is communicating, there is next to nothing from anyone outside the playing side of the club.

It’s an interesting one, a football club is so different to any other business - what other business do you care how it’s run and what’s happening at board level, outside the one you might be an employee or shareholder.

Is it King Power? Is it Rudkin and Whelan? Is it the rules we are trying to keep in line with? We just simply don’t know what’s going on.

[st albans fox]

When we won the cup everything seemed tickety boo 

 

find me threads from back then questioning the way things were being handled 

[Izzy]

13 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

When we won the cup everything seemed tickety boo 

 

find me threads from back then questioning the way things were being handled 

I've posted this numerous times and it still makes me smile.

 

Jake Humphries, Joe Cole, Rio Ferdinand and Emile Heskey talking for 2 minutes about what a 'model club' we are and how all other clubs should be envious of how we're ran.

 

Halcion days 

 

 

[MattFox]

2017-2019 was our best period off the pitch in the PL era by a distance

 

New Training ground, solid transfers, adidas deal etc 

 

Summer 2016 was a shambles

Edited 24 March 2024 by MattFox

[It'sblueupnorth]

21 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

When we won the cup everything seemed tickety boo 

 

find me threads from back then questioning the way things were being handled 

It was probably that summer that ****ed everything up tbh, we didn’t make 1 first team sale as per the seasons before when it was rumoured tielemans would leave for 40 ish mill, and brought in a few signings on vastly inflated wages that didn’t improve the squad. I think it was rumoured our average wage was 94k that season, which is disgusting tbh, and when we couldn’t sign anyone as a result the season after the writing was on the wall, completely mismanaged and as fans it may have seemed tickety boo but we’re not payed 100s of thousands to ensure that the situation we find ourselves in happens, it must have been apparent that we couldn’t sustain 70,80,90k a week upon missing out on cl places 2 years running. The complete mismanagement from board level has and will cost us, and if Top had employed some competent board room staff to run the club for him, maybe we wouldn’t be in this mess

[Sol thewall Bamba]

24 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

When we won the cup everything seemed tickety boo 

 

find me threads from back then questioning the way things were being handled 

UFS first did the infamous Rudkin Out banner in 2017. 

[MattFox]

Just now, Sol thewall Bamba said:

UFS first did the infamous Rudkin Out banner in 2017. 

Swansea away wasn’t it? 
 

 

[SemperEadem]

Just now, MattFox said:

Swansea away wasn’t it? 
 

 

Correct

[MattFox]

11 minutes ago, Izzy said:

I've posted this numerous times and it still makes me smile.

 

Jake Humphries, Joe Cole, Rio Ferdinand and Emile Heskey talking for 2 minutes about what a 'model club' we are and how all other clubs should be envious of how we're ran.

 

Halcion days 

 

 

Four people that know the grand sum of nothing about football business 

 

 

[MattFox]

Think the real unpopular take is that we’ve never been well ran off the field 

 

Just look at the scatter gun PL managerial appointments post Pearson

 

Ranieri - Agent driven big name appointment that they  somehow struck gold before predictably turning to crap second season

 

Shakespeare -Should never have been a permanent appointment, panic move driven by the players

 

Puel - Agent driven appointment that ended in failure 

 

Rodgers - Big Name, Big Money, flavour of the month that again turned out long term the way most people outside the club would have expected 

 

 

 

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

9 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Swansea away wasn’t it? 
 

 

And then one at a home game shortly after. Not sure there were ever any photos of that mind.

[broadstone fox]

Bodgers said at the start of last season this isnt the club that it once was when we won the fa cup

 Something changed from that day

Ffp.psr.? Tops interest? 

[MattFox]

7 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

And then one at a home game shortly after. Not sure there were ever any photos of that mind.

Can’t remember tbf it was Everton live on Sky though 

 

Gray played a blinder if I remember correctly…

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Pearson built most of the success at this football club whilst KP have been in charge.

[5waller5]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

When we won the cup everything seemed tickety boo 

 

find me threads from back then questioning the way things were being handled 

There were plenty but they were quickly shut down with “we’ve just won the FA Cup”. 
 

 

[urban.spaceman]

The last few years they’ve had to deal with the death of Vichai, an unprecedented global pandemic that directly attacked their previously successful business model and wiped out a third of Top’s wealth in one go, and highly restrictive financial rules designed by corrupt leagues in favour of corrupt clubs.
 

Despite all that they delivered an FA Cup, two seasons of European football thst would have been Champions League if Brendan hadn’t bottled it or Manchester City’s ban hadn’t been overturned, and showed real ambition by building a world class training facility and getting planning permission for a stadium expansions, hotel, residential complex and arena. 

 

They have a lot to be held responsible for but I don’t think it’s a good idea to change an ownership at all. I’m not a KP fanatic or anything but options for “good” new owners are very slim. 
 

Our relegation and our current situation is an aberration. The hostility shown to us to the Premier League, its “big six” clubs and its pet EFL cannot be ignored.

 

I don’t think we’ll end up unpunished but I do believe the court case and the employment of de Marco shows they we have an opportunity to make a point about the state of football as it is.

[Bourbon Fox]

They're dream owners - writing off debt, investing in the ground and revenue-driving developments, investing in the training ground, investing in the community, building ties and embracing the city.

 

They are failing in one respect - in employing the best football brains in the business to handle the specialist gaps in their knowledge.

 

People who have the nous to steer an ambitious club past the pitfalls and through the dangers, who know the system inside out and are agile enough to stay at the top of the game.

 

Ideally they'd be vocal and persistent in campaigning for a fairer opportunity for clubs in the 5th-9th of the PL bracket as well.

 

Rudkin simply isn't qualified to be a DoF.

It needs fixing yesterday, if not sooner.

Edited 24 March 2024 by Bourbon Fox

[dillonpanthers87]

1 hour ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

It was probably that summer that ****ed everything up tbh, we didn’t make 1 first team sale as per the seasons before when it was rumoured tielemans would leave for 40 ish mill, and brought in a few signings on vastly inflated wages that didn’t improve the squad. I think it was rumoured our average wage was 94k that season, which is disgusting tbh, and when we couldn’t sign anyone as a result the season after the writing was on the wall, completely mismanaged and as fans it may have seemed tickety boo but we’re not payed 100s of thousands to ensure that the situation we find ourselves in happens, it must have been apparent that we couldn’t sustain 70,80,90k a week upon missing out on cl places 2 years running. The complete mismanagement from board level has and will cost us, and if Top had employed some competent board room staff to run the club for him, maybe we wouldn’t be in this mess

Absolutely my opinion. I allow some give and take for bad luck or external circumstances. But things have been wrong for a long while, and while we (rightly) have pointed to Rodgers and rudkin and poor signings...it's been a long time since things were run well. The cup winning season - things weren't right then either, the win glossed over the cracks.

[dillonpanthers87]

1 hour ago, MattFox said:

Four people that know the grand sum of nothing about football business 

 

 

The similar types who would be cursing the club for sacking Claudio or talking about Rodgers being an elite manager 

[Guest Lako42]

Who knows

 

We know more about North Korea than KPFC

[Chrysalis]

3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

When we won the cup everything seemed tickety boo 

 

find me threads from back then questioning the way things were being handled 

I was moaning about the early pay day loans and the wage bill, the FA cup is deffo after problems were surfacing I think.  We had also already let a lot of analytic staff, scouting staff go by then as well.

Happy days was the EPL win, won it with a playing budget not much higher than championship level and posted world record profits the year after.  Also did it with counter attacking football, best I ever seen at the club in my life time.  Scouting and recruitment was on another level. Squad fitness astounding.

Edited 25 March 2024 by Chrysalis

[Dan]

At some point in the Rodgers era probably, although that was a bit of an illusion.

 

The Puel era was dour but that was probably our only period post 2015 where we've gotten it consistently right off the pitch in terms of transfers and whatnot.

[Dan]

4 hours ago, 5waller5 said:

There were plenty but they were quickly shut down with “we’ve just won the FA Cup”. 

Correct. Remember the lies about the buses for that game too. The kind of thing you get away with when it's going well on the pitch and less so when it isn't. I wonder how much more contemptuous the club actually was last season towards the fans or whether it just seemed so due to how bad we were on the pitch.

[S1DDO]

Whilst winning the league was great for the fans, it gave the club ideas. above their station.