Tiki Taka vs Direct Football

[Guest Col city fan]

Just now, Foxin_Mad said:

Is that strictly true though? Realistically more than half of the Premier League is the level of Bournemouth, we were much the better side in that FA Cup game and Bournemouth were comfortable last year. We held our own again Chelsea.

 

A lot of it is down to to fine margins. Having Wout Faes in defence next year will be the reason we struggle.

Apart from the promoted sides, even the weakest sides in the Premiership are relatively established. 
Ignoring cup games, I don’t see this current Leicester squad beating Bournemouth, Fulham, Palace, Everton and so on. I think we’ll struggle without very strong additions.

And we’ll have to mix up how we play (which was my point). We won’t dominate teams next season.

[OldBob]

31 minutes ago, murphy said:

I hate it. 

 

Hate the idea of trying to strangle games.  Hate the idea of instructing players to take soft options just to keep the ball instead of taking a more ambitious and direct option. 

 

Hate passing it around the defence in the 88th minute when you're 2-1 down and as if you've got all the time in the world instead of sticking your centre half up front and going agricultural.

 

Hate the slow build up, allowing the opposition to set themselves defensively while you tap it around in front of them.     

 

Hate passing it around your own penalty area, Russian roulette style til the inevitable happens and you end up looking like a complete tit. 

 

Maresca likened his approach to chess. There is a reason that chess is not a spectator sport. Keep your false nines, your inverted full backs and all the rest of that hipster crap.   We at the village green preservation society say jumpers for goalposts, no gloves and row zed it, if you have to. 

Best comment I’ve seen on here for a while. Completely agree every point you made. It’s football for the prawn sandwich brigade who want a peaceful afternoon out

[ceebeefox]

Little Iceland beat us last week ( and it could’ve been by more) playing direct diags to 3 fast forwards. It still works with the right players, in our title year we had full backs who could tuck in and tackle , wingers who made opposition full backs run backwards Vardy’s goals and Shinji’s selfless grafting. It can still work.

[Gazza M]

Somewhere in between. We need to be able to mix it up so vital we get a target man in and someone capable of putting balls in with some accuracy. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

20 hours ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

Bit too black and white. Way too many imponderables. There’s tika Taka and there’s fluid football, there’s direct and there’s hoof it. Think what vast majority want is right style to fit any given situation without neglecting having an identity as a team.

Yeah, the two are not mutually exclusive.

[lee7]

You need to have a bit of everything in my opinion. It's great to see us playing possession based football but ultimately if you only create one chance per game it is boring. 

 

 

[Matt]

I'm glad a discussion is being had and i'm delighted the poll is showing in favour of direct.

 

Direct doesn't mean hoof it, people need to understand this, people have been brainwashed by possession based football.

[Phenom]

12 minutes ago, Matt said:

I'm glad a discussion is being had and i'm delighted the poll is showing in favour of direct.

 

Direct doesn't mean hoof it, people need to understand this, people have been brainwashed by possession based football.

You can say the same about “tiki taka” or possession based football. It’s not black and white.

[Matt]

11 minutes ago, Phenom said:

You can say the same about “tiki taka” or possession based football. It’s not black and white.

Fair, but as has been discussed in this thread is tiki taka even a thing nowadays, I'd say not, it's evolved into possession based football, which is imo largely boring.

 

It's not enthralling and it doesn't get you out your seat.

 

Edited 10 June 2024 by Matt

[Stadt]

1 hour ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Is that strictly true though? Realistically more than half of the Premier League is the level of Bournemouth, we were much the better side in that FA Cup game and Bournemouth were comfortable last year. We held our own again Chelsea.

 

A lot of it is down to to fine margins. Having Wout Faes in defence next year will be the reason we struggle.

Bournemouth missed a hatful of good chances - we weren’t the better side 

[trooky]

For all those that favour direct football, who would be a modern exponent of that style in the current premier league and an ideal candidate for The Leicester job?

[OldBob]

8 minutes ago, trooky said:

For all those that favour direct football, who would be a modern exponent of that style in the current premier league and an ideal candidate for The Leicester job?

Dyche. But we’ve missed the boat with him unfortunately 

[Dan]

Teams like Bournemouth and Fulham are talking points though. I'd say both of those play a fairly progressive style and both are genuinely quite entertaining teams. I've always quite enjoyed Silva's football. They were better than us in the Championship as well.

[OldBob]

21 hours ago, Matt said:

I'm glad a discussion is being had and i'm delighted the poll is showing in favour of direct.

 

Direct doesn't mean hoof it, people need to understand this, people have been brainwashed by possession based football.

Only have to look at the atmosphere at the king power for the past couple years and realise it’s a result of this style of football. I remember Rodgers trying to claim the fans need to encourage the players more (ie be louder), when not understanding the reason the fans are quiet is because of his sides football is slow and boring. 

[leicesterlad1989]

Efficient football. 

 

Play to the players abilities, the opposition and the situation in the match.

 

Don't be dicking about at the back with the ball when holding onto a slender lead in the last minute. 

[HybridFox]

Lumping it in to Stevie Howard. Proper football 

[Chelmofox]

Love a chicken tikka.

[Matt]

1 hour ago, OldBob said:

Only have to look at the atmosphere at the king power for the past couple years and realise it’s a result of this style of football. I remember Rodgers trying to claim the fans need to encourage the players more (ie be louder), when not understanding the reason the fans are quiet is because of his sides football is slow and boring. 

You only have to look at Man City, where this style is successful - despite what I think about it or them I can't argue any different, yet look at their fanbase and atmosphere.

[Stevosevic]

On 10/06/2024 at 18:44, Col city fan said:

Apart from the promoted sides, even the weakest sides in the Premiership are relatively established. 
Ignoring cup games, I don’t see this current Leicester squad beating Bournemouth, Fulham, Palace, Everton and so on. I think we’ll struggle without very strong additions.

And we’ll have to mix up how we play (which was my point). We won’t dominate teams next season.

We were established until we went down. 
 
Things can change very quickly for most clubs. 

 

[Koke]

Bournemouth or Everton?

 

Old Burnley or Fulham? 

 

Old Bolton or current Brighton? 

 

Can't believe people will chose route one anti football terrorism over modern progressive attacking football. 

 

Direct football won't get you above  15th. So if you guys are hapoy being 15th in the league forever then then so be it.

 

Edited 11 June 2024 by Koke

[Lambert09]

i just want us to play with common sense. Yes try to retain the ball but don’t take 4 passes when you can hit that space with 1. 
 

im not a fan of teams that have professional footballers that are scared to pass the ball 25 yards.  it frustrates me so much when you have a wide open winger but it takes 4 people touching the ball before it gets to them. 
 

Our best football this season against southampton, both times, came from quick releases and utilizing our pace in the space.

 

 

Edited 11 June 2024 by Lambert09

[Terraloon]

22 hours ago, Stadt said:

Bournemouth missed a hatful of good chances - we weren’t the better side 

I thought that and to be honest had Sterling been close to clinical it would have been done and dusted by half time

 

[Chelmofox]

14 minutes ago, Terraloon said:

I thought that and to be honest had Sterling been close to clinical it would have been done and dusted by half time

 

When did Sterling sign for Bournemouth?

[OldBob]

20 minutes ago, Koke said:

Bournemouth or Everton?

 

Old Burnley or Fulham? 

 

Old Bolton or current Brighton? 

 

Can't believe people will chose route one anti football terrorism over modern progressive attacking football. 

 

Direct football won't get you above  15th. So if you guys are hapoy being 15th in the league forever then then so be it.

 

You're talking codswallop son! 

 

Old Burnley and Old Bolton would have a field day against current Fulham and Brighton. Wouldn’t even be close. 

 

Real Madrid have just won the champions league having less possession and playing very direct….

 

West Ham have got into Europe in recent times and won a trophy playing that style…

 

Everton would have finished mid table without the points deduction. Despite having no half decent striker most of season…

[Chelmofox]

Comments about the Bournemouth game make me chuckle. It was a competitive game against a PL side, we were never going to dominate possession but that ended up being pretty equal.  But the key factor is that we were competitive and didn't simply low block a better side. Its good to remember that they went relatively strong and in the first half we rotated more than they did. The stats show we were pretty effective too, registering more shots on target, pretty equal possession and creating more clear cut chances.  As they game went on we looked the fitter side which helped us see the game out.

 

I really don't think we could have asked for more from the team that day.