Michael Golding joins permanently - Official

[ts_1010]

Get him out on loan to a league 1 side. Surely he has been watched by some of their scouting teams. Give Newport another player who needs games. Evans and page feel like they are having a wasted season now. Does anyone know how many more players are allowed to send out?

[MPH]

54 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Taken off at half time because they were already 2-0 down and wanted to save their best player for the league. Braybrooke was the only Newport player who played well in that game as usual.

 

 

Before his injury he was out performing Rico Lewis and Adam Wharton whilst on the same pitch for the England youth teams. He might not ever get back on the same career trajectory as those two but with him regaining his confidence a player of his talent could be able to skip a level and make the leap from league 2 to championship.

no offense but we would be foolish to judge someone’s ability to be successful in the championship by them being a stand out player for the bottom team in professional football.
 

 So who is he going to play instead of? JJ? Or even  skipp? Just bring him back to maybe sit on the bench?

 

only player who has made the successful jump for us from at least 2 divisions was Vardy and I believe he was a once in a generation talent for us. 
 

there’s absolutely no evidence to suggest Sammy can be the instant success we would need  him to be to make it worth bringing him back  from his loan

 

far better to send him to a league one team second half of the season and see how he cuts it there.

[moore_94]

2 hours ago, MPH said:

 

why do people think because he is shining in league 2, that he can lead a charge up the  championship?

 

what has he done for us so far to suggest that?

 

if anything, loan him to a league 1 side second half of the season and take a look at him next year..

 

 

Newport are bottom of league two and lost to a national league team  3-0 in the FA cup at the weekend. Sammy got taken off in the 44th minute, it says..

44 is his shirt number...

[brookfox]

2 hours ago, DezFox said:

Chelsea didn’t overpay. We are seeing that now and we also knew at the time. 

Overpaid less in relation to the players value and more in relation to our pretty obvious need to sell for PSR reasons. Every club knew we needed to sell so whoever came in held all the cards in the negotiation.

[Aleksz]

5 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Chelsea 'highly rate' the player they are happy to dispose of in a PSR fiddle, but turns out not to be that good after all. I dont think he is good enough to get a L2 loan.

Suggest you take a look at Man City’s academy outgoings over the last years before applying that logic. 

[Chelmofox]

11 minutes ago, Aleksz said:

Suggest you take a look at Man City’s academy outgoings over the last years before applying that logic. 

How many of those have we bought for 8 million and found they are worse then most of the existing academy?

[LCFCCKEANO]

3 hours ago, MPH said:

no offense but we would be foolish to judge someone’s ability to be successful in the championship by them being a stand out player for the bottom team in professional football.
 

 So who is he going to play instead of? JJ? Or even  skipp? Just bring him back to maybe sit on the bench?

 

only player who has made the successful jump for us from at least 2 divisions was Vardy and I believe he was a once in a generation talent for us. 
 

there’s absolutely no evidence to suggest Sammy can be the instant success we would need  him to be to make it worth bringing him back  from his loan

 

far better to send him to a league one team second half of the season and see how he cuts it there.

Nelson was off the back of a League 2 loan the enzo year, Nick Pope went from Bury to Charlton to Newcastle, Stolarczyk was Hartlepool, Mings went from non league to starting for Ipswich, others too. It is rare because of the standard drop but if a player(JJ, Braybrooke) is the best player on the pitch every week all you know for certain is that they are at least worth playing a division below, and with both of them, the way they play wouldn’t be massively affected by the leap in my opinion, Braybrooke was always whether he could physically compete which he is showing he can, Joseph we will wait and see but he has all the tools

[honeybradger]

15 hours ago, MPH said:

no offense but we would be foolish to judge someone’s ability to be successful in the championship by them being a stand out player for the bottom team in professional football.
 

 So who is he going to play instead of? JJ? Or even  skipp? Just bring him back to maybe sit on the bench?

 

only player who has made the successful jump for us from at least 2 divisions was Vardy and I believe he was a once in a generation talent for us. 
 

there’s absolutely no evidence to suggest Sammy can be the instant success we would need  him to be to make it worth bringing him back  from his loan

 

far better to send him to a league one team second half of the season and see how he cuts it there.

Im also going off the basis that before his injury he was arguably a better player than Wharton, who was starting and playing well in the championship at that time and is now a £60mil player on the fringe of the England team.

 

He might not ever match Wharton's current level but it is not far to suggest that he can match Wharton's level when he was making his breakout in the championship, which Braybrooke was arguably already better than before his injury.

[MPH]

55 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Im also going off the basis that before his injury he was arguably a better player than Wharton, who was starting and playing well in the championship at that time and is now a £60mil player on the fringe of the England team.

 

He might not ever match Wharton's current level but it is not far to suggest that he can match Wharton's level when he was making his breakout in the championship, which Braybrooke was arguably already better than before his injury.

 

and yet Sammy had some games in the championship but was deemed not good enough and loaned out

 

dont forget he also went to Dundee and  played a few games there..

 

 

 

so my point is, for Sammy his progress is more gentle and steady. He may well be a good prem player one day, but he’s going to have to make the step up gradually. 
 

it would absolutely ruin him as a player to take him from the second division and throw him him in as a lead player to ‘save our season’.

[Stadt]

The fact he's on loan in L2 is not an indictment on his ability, it's more we gave him a stupid loan in Scotland and he's had an awful injury.

 

The same people were probably saying Barnes and KDH wouldn't make it when they had their loans too. We have 2 contracted senior CMs going into next season, we have no choice but to try and use AT LEAST one of Braybrooke, Page and Cartwright 

Edited 9 December 2025 by Stadt

[honeybradger]

3 hours ago, MPH said:

 

and yet Sammy had some games in the championship but was deemed not good enough and loaned out

 

dont forget he also went to Dundee and  played a few games there..

 

 

 

so my point is, for Sammy his progress is more gentle and steady. He may well be a good prem player one day, but he’s going to have to make the step up gradually. 
 

it would absolutely ruin him as a player to take him from the second division and throw him him in as a lead player to ‘save our season’.

Sammy has never played in the championship?

 

At Dundee he was not long off his injury and was yet to reach the level that he was before it. 

 

Now he's gotten back to his pre injury level and surpassed it he should be good enough for a shot in the championship. I didn't say that he should be a lead player but with Winks in the bin and Soumare out injured he would be in a good position in our squad to rotate with Skipp.

[Lambert09]

3 hours ago, MPH said:

 

and yet Sammy had some games in the championship but was deemed not good enough and loaned out

 

dont forget he also went to Dundee and  played a few games there..

 

 

 

so my point is, for Sammy his progress is more gentle and steady. He may well be a good prem player one day, but he’s going to have to make the step up gradually. 
 

it would absolutely ruin him as a player to take him from the second division and throw him him in as a lead player to ‘save our season’.

Because you can clearly see the quality.  I’m surprised we have fans with this attitude when we’ve proven on so many occasions that the loan system works. 
 

nelson was also out of favour at a league 2 club before switching to another one. It’s not because he wasn’t good enough but the fact that using a youth player learning the game who will make mistakes (that’s why they are there) is not always going to be there preference over an experienced professional. Who may not be as talented but knows when to make a foul and how to time waste etc. 

 

When kdh went to blackpool, I think it was obvious he was going to make it. The luton loan just nailed that certainty. 
 

when Barnes went to Barnsley it was obvious he was going to make it, the west brom loan just nailed it.
 

I think people really don’t understand that the step up between league 2 and the championship is really not that big and Sammy will be good enough. The question is whether he has had enough experience to jump right in yet, probably not. He needs a different type of challenge at a league 1 club who preferably play in a more similar way to ourselves.  Being the best player but still being awful is very different tot he reviews and stats coming in for Sammy. He’s not the best of a bad bunch, they all acknowledge he’s far too good for league 2… which is tough to say when you’re at the bottom of the table. 
 

personally, I’d try and get him to Peterborough for the second half of the season and then integrate him to start for us for next year 

 

my question for you, would be to find a player who had generally been too good for his loan club but wasn’t good enough for us? Because I can’t think of any. You get a couple that do decent before eventually dropping off. But the ones that end up the best players at the club tend to make it. The only real shocking one for me was benkovic. I still to this day don’t really understand what went wrong for him. 

Edited 9 December 2025 by Lambert09

[MPH]

1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

Because you can clearly see the quality.  I’m surprised we have fans with this attitude when we’ve proven on so many occasions that the loan system works. 
 

nelson was also out of favour at a league 2 club before switching to another one. It’s not because he wasn’t good enough but the fact that using a youth player learning the game who will make mistakes (that’s why they are there) is not always going to be there preference over an experienced professional. Who may not be as talented but knows when to make a foul and how to time waste etc. 

 

When kdh went to blackpool, I think it was obvious he was going to make it. The luton loan just nailed that certainty. 
 

when Barnes went to Barnsley it was obvious he was going to make it, the west brom loan just nailed it.
 

I think people really don’t understand that the step up between league 2 and the championship is really not that big and Sammy will be good enough. The question is whether he has had enough experience to jump right in yet, probably not. He needs a different type of challenge at a league 1 club who preferably play in a more similar way to ourselves.  Being the best player but still being awful is very different tot he reviews and stats coming in for Sammy. He’s not the best of a bad bunch, they all acknowledge he’s far too good for league 2… which is tough to say when you’re at the bottom of the table. 
 

personally, I’d try and get him to Peterborough for the second half of the season and then integrate him to start for us for next year 

 

my question for you, would be to find a player who had generally been too good for his loan club but wasn’t good enough for us? Because I can’t think of any. You get a couple that do decent before eventually dropping off. But the ones that end up the best players at the club tend to make it. The only real shocking one for me was benkovic. I still to this day don’t really understand what went wrong for him. 

 

you can see the quality so much because he was first loaned out to Dundee United and then to the bottom team of professional football? 

 

and really by quoting Harvey Barnes, you’ve kind of proved my point for me… he went to west Brom after being loaned to my dons and also Barnsley. He worked his way up with strategic loans and it really benefited him!

 

so, Braybrooke- he may well progress to do well for us, but the key word there, is progress. League 1 needs to be his next step

[MPH]

2 hours ago, honeybradger said:

Sammy has never played in the championship?

 

At Dundee he was not long off his injury and was yet to reach the level that he was before it. 

 

Now he's gotten back to his pre injury level and surpassed it he should be good enough for a shot in the championship. I didn't say that he should be a lead player but with Winks in the bin and Soumare out injured he would be in a good position in our squad to rotate with Skipp.

 

what benefit would  it be for him to come in off a loan and sit on the bench? He needs to be playing.

[Lambert09]

1 hour ago, MPH said:

 

you can see the quality so much because he was first loaned out to Dundee United and then to the bottom team of professional football? 

 

and really by quoting Harvey Barnes, you’ve kind of proved my point for me… he went to west Brom after being loaned to my dons and also Barnsley. He worked his way up with strategic loans and it really benefited him!

 

so, Braybrooke- he may well progress to do well for us, but the key word there, is progress. League 1 needs to be his next step

When you watch the under 23s and see a player standing out head and shoulders above, do you see their quality?  Because league 2 is a far higher standard than that football so if they are standing out when you watch them, you can see that talent. And with the added fan pressure on them 
 

I don’t disagree a loan will be better for his development. But just because he’s not had that higher level opportunity doesn’t mean that people’s views of his talent are incorrect. 

Edited 9 December 2025 by Lambert09

[honeybradger]

2 hours ago, MPH said:

 

what benefit would  it be for him to come in off a loan and sit on the bench? He needs to be playing.

I personally think he inevitably benches Skipp but Skipp can cary on starting if Braybrooke struggles with the step up

[MPH]

23 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

I personally think he inevitably benches Skipp but Skipp can cary on starting if Braybrooke struggles with the step up

 

its a bit of a dilemma really… skipp has played well recently .. not just his start but his sub appearances… if he keeps it up, it would be hard to drop him…. If we enter January  in something crazy like 20th then we can consider this season a write off and i suppose it would  do no harm to bring braybrooke back..

[Noahfence]

Golding got an assist for the 21s tonight.. 

[JimJams]

16 hours ago, honeybradger said:

I personally think he inevitably benches Skipp 

[Merchant_Banker]

If this wasn't a PSR fiddle it would be shocking that Goldibg cost £5m+ and we have an option on James for 5 million EUros!

[Tommy Fresh]

On 09/12/2025 at 17:40, MPH said:

 

you can see the quality so much because he was first loaned out to Dundee United and then to the bottom team of professional football? 

 

and really by quoting Harvey Barnes, you’ve kind of proved my point for me… he went to west Brom after being loaned to my dons and also Barnsley. He worked his way up with strategic loans and it really benefited him!

 

so, Braybrooke- he may well progress to do well for us, but the key word there, is progress. League 1 needs to be his next step

*Dundee

[cityfanlee23]

Worth sending him on loan to Fuchs at Newport?