VOTE COOPER IN/OUT/WAIT

[Guest Bilo]

17 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Good lad 👏🏼

Literally any one of them would be a significant upgrade and none are unrealistic. 

[Muzzy_no7]

5 hours ago, Bilo said:

Literally any one of them would be a significant upgrade and none are unrealistic. 

Agree but for me the two that stand out are Kasper Hjulmand and Roger Schmidt.

 

Both have achieved much in the game, play high intensity attacking football and speak good English. 

[Guest Bilo]

7 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Agree but for me the two that stand out are Kasper Hjulmand and Roger Schmidt.

 

Both have achieved much in the game, play high intensity attacking football and speak good English. 

I suspect Hjulmand will be pretty well acquainted with the club from Hermansen, Vestegaard and Schmeichel as well. 

[Muzzy_no7]

32 minutes ago, Bilo said:

I suspect Hjulmand will be pretty well acquainted with the club from Hermansen, Vestegaard and Schmeichel as well. 

Vesty is probably already in contact with him😂

[suffolk fox]

19 hours ago, Bilo said:

Exactly this.

 

Wolves have had Lopetegui, Bournemouth have Iraola. There is absolutely no reason for a club of our stature and with our resources to accept a Championship level manager. 

 

The unemployed managers out there right now make my shit itch as I could reel off five better options than Cooper just off the top of my head who would most likely snap Top's hand off for a gig in the Premier League. 

Lopetegui is ripping it up at West Ham at this moment in time.  I bet they wish they had stuck with Moyes.

[Guest Bilo]

1 hour ago, suffolk fox said:

Lopetegui is ripping it up at West Ham at this moment in time.  I bet they wish they had stuck with Moyes.

Some pay off, some don't. Cooper is the latter, but what makes it worse is the total lack of ambition. It's not as if you can say that we've even tried to progress with this appointment.

 

Lopetegui has a history of success at the highest level and a clear style: you can certainly see what West Ham and Wolves were trying to do by appointing him. 

[LCFCJohn]

I have put during the October break. I have seen enough to want a change. Despite being behind him and in favour of his appointment, the line ups, the shocking in game management and general negativity that I believe he is not getting the best out of the players available.

 

The only reason I have put October is, Arsenal is likely a write off anyway which just leaves Bournemouth. Cooper is at least growing a few points out and we aren’t going to find ourselves cut adrift after the next two games.

 

I would though, like to see us demonstrate we have a plan. I wanted Rodgers out for ages but even taking into account we left it over the International Break then, would he have got more than 0 points from Villa and Bournemouth at home where the chuckle brothers of Stowell and Sadler lost both? Maybe. 
 

So I would rather we be lining up the next manager now but not remove Cooper until then just to have an interim in charge.

[goose2010]

zero point in getting rid as i have zero faith in the board replacing him with anyone better. 

 

Decision makers have to go before Cooper. 

Edited 26 September 2024 by goose2010

[foxfanazer]

I'm stunned that 111 people believe he should stay 

[TrentFox]

11 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

I'm stunned that 111 people believe he should stay 

I’m stunned that a handful of people even appointed him. 😞

[Happy Fox]

26 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

zero point in getting rid as i have zero faith in the board replacing him with anyone better. 

 

Decision makers have to go before Cooper. 

Who would they appoint that is worse?

 

Frank Lampard? I would argue he’s better at this level and that’s saying something!

[Mythyaar]

De Boer lasted 5 games at Palace. Hodgson came in and steadied the ship. There has been a successful precedent.

 

Sooner rather than later i.m.o

[Walshy5]

We really need to act now on this before all the good candidates find jobs. For example Moyes. But yiu just know our board will **** around and by the time they act it'll be too late and we'll end up with someone like Lampard!

 

 

[Muzzy_no7]

1 hour ago, foxfanazer said:

I'm stunned that 111 people believe he should stay 

Frightening 

[VG Fox]

On 23/09/2024 at 17:46, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

Too many red flags and warning signs for me to ignore. Get rid ASAP and get someone in who the players respect and who knows how to do the basics ahead of a nice run of winnable games in October.

 

However, he won’t be sacked at least until the end of October because the board are cowards and won’t want to be seen as too impulsive and reactionary.
 

I genuinely think Blackpool have a more competent manager than we do (Steve Bruce for those of you who don’t know).

'genuinely think Blackpool have a more competent manager than we do (Steve Bruce for those of you who don’t know'.....Hens teeth, that is bad...SB is a good guy I'm sure, but a woeful manager....we look utterly lost at present and Cooper seems to have terrible eyesight...Ricardo is one of the clubs best players and he can't see it....and please for gods play some youngsters at utd..we are going out..but they need to feel included..give them a glimpse of the future..

[HoustonFox]

He gets the Arsenal game - it’s a free hit and if we don’t show spirit and fight, along with some degree of organisation, then he’s got to go. 
 

With the games coming up after the next one, and him staying so timid and barely attacking, I don’t think we can afford to keep him. 
 

The last two games have really irked me. Tactics and play against a rock bottom Everton and then followed up by the performance against Walsall. 
 

We need a manager who is going to look for wins against Bournemouth, Southampton and Ipswich if we want to stay up. I just can’t see it being Cooper right now unfortunately but happy for him to prove me wrong. 

[Muzzy_no7]

2 hours ago, HoustonFox said:

He gets the Arsenal game - it’s a free hit and if we don’t show spirit and fight, along with some degree of organisation, then he’s got to go. 
 

With the games coming up after the next one, and him staying so timid and barely attacking, I don’t think we can afford to keep him. 
 

The last two games have really irked me. Tactics and play against a rock bottom Everton and then followed up by the performance against Walsall. 
 

We need a manager who is going to look for wins against Bournemouth, Southampton and Ipswich if we want to stay up. I just can’t see it being Cooper right now unfortunately but happy for him to prove me wrong. 

Agree👍🏼

[Guest Bilo]

For me, he's basically already blown it.

 

A better manager would have seen the game out against Palace, had a real go against an Everton side in crisis and dispatched Walsall with ease. We could,  and should, be on seven points with two wins chalked up and a six point cushion over the bottom three. The reason we haven't is poor tactics and game management. 

[Analysethis]

I cant believe I am typing this so soon but...

 

Out during the International break.

 

His record with Forest wasn't that great, his away form for them in the latter end was woeful and he has been decent as a manager at best. However I was fully behind the appointment as he has got good qualities and its about giving him the chance.

 

The reality is though for me (and the club), we were linked to so many players but couldn't get them over the line. I know people will say its because we had a point deduction looming. I still believe Cooper doesn't strike me as someone who is that persuasive. The sanctioning of panic buys like Skipp (and that fee) and 2 strikers even Crystal Palace dont want means this was a poor Transfer window and I would say Cooper is partially to blame. Beyond that, his pre-season results and performances along with prem match tactics and team selections are woeful. Riccardo not playing, Vestegaard dropped without reason, not starting the two players who I had pinned my hopes on making moves in the prem, namely Fatawu and Mavididi in the same starting line up, selecting Winks Ndidi and Skipp in same midfield. Cordoba-Reid ahead of Mavidi. The list is endless really.

 

There is a real stinky mood about the club at the moment.The boardroom decisions from Season tickets, manager appointment, transfers including not selling Soumare and Kristensen, hated by others over FFP, results etc. As harsh as this sounds.I think we get rid and try something else. I`d rather go down fighting with a bit of attacking intent instead of this stubborness to play new signings who are bang average ahead of the lads who got us up.

[winteriscoming]

If Palace a mid table side can get a Europa league winner in Glasner then there’s no reason why we can’t get one of

Roger Schmidt

Rudi Garcia 

Niko Kovac 

Urs Fischer 

I’m not sure on Hjulmand. Domestically not as good as when he was with the national team. 
Don’t settle for championship level managers like Cooper. 

[Guest Bilo]

10 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

If Palace a mid table side can get a Europa league winner in Glasner then there’s no reason why we can’t get one of

Roger Schmidt

Rudi Garcia 

Niko Kovac 

Urs Fischer 

I’m not sure on Hjulmand. Domestically not as good as when he was with the national team. 
Don’t settle for championship level managers like Cooper. 

I was all aboard the Fischer train when Union qualified for the UCL, but the season after was diabolical. 

 

Schmidt or Kovac would be good for us, though. Hjulmand is probably already familiar with us and our style of play through the Danish lads and seeing how they interact.

Edited 26 September 2024 by Bilo

[Buzzell]

Him coming here was always going to be a disaster.

[klrice]

Steve Cooper dose not sound confident when talk on tv in after match interview or pre match.

[orangecity23]

Realistically, if we say we are targeting something like 38 points minimum for the season, then that's about 10 wins and 8 draws - meaning we need to be tracking roughly for 5 wins and 4 draws by the half way point at Christmas. Draws are looking about there, but we need to rustle up 5 wins between now and then. Makes the 4 games after Arsenal pretty critical - after that there are fixtures against the likes of Man U, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Newcastle, Brighton, West Ham and Brentford. That's not a lot of winnable games on paper.

[Happy Fox]

19 minutes ago, orangecity23 said:

Realistically, if we say we are targeting something like 38 points minimum for the season, then that's about 10 wins and 8 draws - meaning we need to be tracking roughly for 5 wins and 4 draws by the half way point at Christmas. Draws are looking about there, but we need to rustle up 5 wins between now and then. Makes the 4 games after Arsenal pretty critical - after that there are fixtures against the likes of Man U, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Newcastle, Brighton, West Ham and Brentford. That's not a lot of winnable games on paper.

 

We won't achieve that with Cooper.