VOTE COOPER IN/OUT/WAIT

[broadstone fox]

Didnt top fly over for the forest game two seasons ago when Bodgers was in charge.

Rumour had it that if we lost that night he was gone. We didnt and his reign carried on.

[Realist Guy In The Room]

48 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

Yes, he did have a clear plan. It seemed to have been sussed at a lower level, and we weren't even on promotion form for the second half of the season. Quite a few people on here who want Cooper gone also wanted Maresca gone as late as April. Most of us saw that the set-up needed to change. Most were calling for a more flexible tactical approach.

 

Your hatred of him, though, is just a further example of what's going on, in that some people can't separate their emotions from their ability to reason. Most of his critics decided that on day one. In many ways, if you wanted to defend Cooper or the board, one of the strongest arguments for them would be how unbalanced the criticisms against them have been.

 

I have serious doubts about the board and Cooper. But you're never going to win those arguments if you're baying for a new manager's blood (newly promoted, at a troubled club which was out of form for some time) after 5 fairly inconclusive games. Bide your time and, if things don't improve, at least nobody will say that it was the tidal wave of pessimism which led to things not working out.

No.

 

Sack him now.

[Nolucklcfc]

29 minutes ago, broadstone fox said:

Didnt top fly over for the forest game two seasons ago when Bodgers was in charge.

Rumour had it that if we lost that night he was gone. We didnt and his reign carried on.

No, he visited the team at seagrave and told them he wouldn’t be sacked. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Can't get him out soon enough. It's complete self sabotage keeping him.

[Matt]

So, playing devils advocate (And I know full well i'm gonna get pelters and people rolling their eyes full well knowing what i'm getting at but...)

 

"Who we gonna get?" and "Be careful what you wish for" (Southgate's waiting in the wings, or we gonna go chasing Potter again?).

 

Those two statements aren't a reason for keeping Cooper, but neither were they when giving Rodgers for 2 years longer than we should, yet those questions need answering and/or countering.

 

Perhaps people should have been careful what they wished for and Cooper being appointed is a by-product of that, as was our massive drop in the food chain.  

 

Edited 23 September 2024 by Matt

[Fox seen in Norwich]

33 minutes ago, Matt said:

So, playing devils advocate (And I know full well i'm gonna get pelters and people rolling their eyes full well knowing what i'm getting at but...)

 

"Who we gonna get?" and "Be careful what you wish for" (Southgate's waiting in the wings, or we gonna go chasing Potter again?).

 

Those two statements aren't a reason for keeping Cooper, but neither were they when giving Rodgers for 2 years longer than we should, yet those questions need answering and/or countering.

 

Perhaps people should have been careful what they wished for and Cooper being appointed is a by-product of that, as was our massive drop in the food chain.  

 

Southgate or Potter maybe

[gurru991]

4 minutes ago, Fox seen in Norwich said:

Southgate or Potter maybe

I have been a Leicester City supporter since 1960 but if Southgate takes over that will  be the end for me. 

I was hoping Man U would hire him as I feel they deserve each other.

[Plastik Man]

2 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

Give him another 5 league games 

 

Never thought I'd ever quote Thatcher!

[Clever Fox]

5 minutes ago, gurru991 said:

I have been a Leicester City supporter since 1960 but if Southgate takes over that will  be the end for me. 

I was hoping Man U would hire him as I feel they deserve each other.

I feel exactly the same, I can't stand Southgate who I feel is another chancer and overrated.

[DezFox]

The options are slightly confusing. my opinion is to sack now 100%. However, I think he will do enough to stay for a while and thats extremely worrying. In fact, he will do enough convince the board to stay well past October and that will not be down to his performance. When I say he will do enough, he could literally do anything and we will go through the motions and sack when is normal in footballer terms. It will be too late be then. 

[Dr The Singh]

This thread is like an of my sexual encounters, in out,..........sorry love you have to wait a few mins before i can go again.

[Guppys Love Child]

I think others have already touched upon the fact that it's highly unlikely that Cooper will suddenly have a change of heart with regards to his dubious team selections, his defensive negative set up, playing Fatawu and Mavididi on opposite wings at the same time and Ricardo actually setting foot on the pitch, all of which we deem are needed for our fortunes to change for the better, (we have been isolated glimpses of these "required amendments" and we do look and perform better during these spells) so what's the point in waiting another 5 or 6 games and eeking out a point or two when we need  6 or 7 playing under the constraints of Cooper management that so far yielded 2 meagre points...

[Fox seen in Norwich]

12 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

This thread is like an of my sexual encounters, in out,..........sorry love you have to wait a few mins before i can go again.

Bet you had more clean sheets than we currently have 

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

Just now, Guppys Love Child said:

I think others have already touched upon the fact that it's highly unlikely that Cooper will suddenly have a change of heart with regards to his dubious team selections, his defensive negative set up, playing Fatawu and Mavididi on opposite wings at the same time and Ricardo actually setting foot on the pitch, all of which we deem are needed for our fortunes to change for the better, (we have been isolated glimpses of these "required amendments" and we do look and perform better during these spells) so what's the point in waiting another 5 or 6 games and eeking out a point or two when we need  6 or 7 playing under the constraints of Cooper management that so far yielded 2 meagre points...

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[ealingfox]

What we have to remember is that we now have to outthink and outfight teams this season. We'll have to be clearly on top and win games outright. As we've seen, referees are able to do enough to affect results to mean we aren't going to be able to nick cagey games, which is basically the best we can hope for under Cooper - in fact it's probably his ideal gameplan. But this won't be allowed to happen enough times to keep us up after we've mugged off the PL.

 

We need a better manager if we're going to stay up.

[jammie82uk]

55 minutes ago, Fox seen in Norwich said:

Southgate or Potter maybe

We are surely not going to get Southgate, club level I can see him going to Newcastle or Villa Type club if they ever become available or it will be another international job, I can see Potter wanting the England Job or again it will be a top 8 club job he will be wanting 

[jammie82uk]

23 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

What we have to remember is that we now have to outthink and outfight teams this season. We'll have to be clearly on top and win games outright.

The issue is Steve Cooper’s premier league win record is not great 

 

Premier League Records

Matches

60

Wins

12

Draws

19

Losses

29

Goals For

61

Goals Against

106

 

[Mickyblueeyes]

Lost little faith in him on Saturday. The lack of direction. The poor start. The complete inability to change what was clearly not working. He has hindered us in every game this season. 

 

Spurs, in the ascendency and brings on Soumare. 

Fatawu or Mavididi, never both.

Reid over Mavididi

Palace and Hamza as the defensive 10

Faes over Jannick

Riccy over Justin

3 as you were subs on Saturday. 

 

There are just to many WTF moments. 

[Muzzy_no7]

85% want him gone in the next 2 weeks 

[ealingfox]

3 minutes ago, jammie82uk said:

The issue is Steve Cooper’s premier league win record is not great 

 

Premier League Records

Matches

60

Wins

12

Draws

19

Losses

29

Goals For

61

Goals Against

106

 

 

Oh yeah don't get me wrong, the blokes dog muck and miles off it. I'm just trying to persuade the 39%.

[worthosoriginals]

10 minutes ago, jammie82uk said:

The issue is Steve Cooper’s premier league win record is not great 

 

Premier League Records

Matches

60

Wins

12

Draws

19

Losses

29

Goals For

61

Goals Against

106

 

Fantastic! gerrimin! Oh shit  the stats  there seem about right, but no matter, give him more time he will get it right, one day surely, hang on we seem a bit crap as are his choices, team selection subs etc, so what, give him a good few more games before judging 

[Vazman]

Its prolonged agony keeping him, he wont improve us, so what's the point 

[Bob Weasel Fox]

I think realistically we have to give him until next international break in October but then if this shitty negative run goes on get rid 

[Strokes]

Just now, Bob Weasel Fox said:

I think realistically we have to give him until next international break in October but then if this shitty negative run goes on get rid 

He won’t win a game.

Get rid now!!

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

13 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

85% want him gone in the next 2 weeks 

You still at it I see. May as well be 85% of zero as the opinion is of no interest yet to the board. You sure it's not 87.574%?

Edited 23 September 2024 by Cadno'r Cymoedd