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Safe Standing at the King Power Stadium

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Foxes_Trust

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2 'Your 90 minutes' sessions now open to sign up for to have your say on Safe Standing. Both 6pm for a 6.30m start. Doesn't appear limited to ST holders or Members.

 

16th Dec - in person at stadium

 

17th Dec - online

 

Sign up: https://lcfc.formstack.com/forms/your_90_minutes_safe_standing_031224?dm_i=764A,TSQG,V95RR,41VRB,1q

 

We've had a few board members have a look at the prototypes so far and more due to go. General consensus seems to be coming out from what we've seen, and also heard from others, that the favoured ones are the flat metal seats at the back of the prototypes that can be actually clipped up. They'll be the priciest though. The ones at the front are clunky and not good. Where they do the cheap version and just put a rail up on existing seats, you can bang your calves on the existing seat and there are trip hazards where the rail is fixed into the concrete on the floor. Most people think all the rails were at an OK height, no issues seeing over them even for short people, and they're ok to lean on, and people seemed to prefer painting them blue to leaving them silver. Lots of people seem to be suggesting SK1, top half of Kop,  L1 and away section as the standing areas.

 

If you are not a member or ST holder and can't vote in the survey or attend Your 90 Minutes, please let us know your views and we'll feed it all in via Trust feedback and the FAB etc. 

 

 

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Spudulike

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3 minutes ago, Foxes_Trust said:

2 'Your 90 minutes' sessions now open to sign up for to have your say on Safe Standing. Both 6pm for a 6.30m start. Doesn't appear limited to ST holders or Members.

 

16th Dec - in person at stadium

 

17th Dec - online

 

Sign up: https://lcfc.formstack.com/forms/your_90_minutes_safe_standing_031224?dm_i=764A,TSQG,V95RR,41VRB,1q

 

We've had a few board members have a look at the prototypes so far and more due to go. General consensus seems to be coming out from what we've seen, and also heard from others, that the favoured ones are the flat metal seats at the back of the prototypes that can be actually clipped up. They'll be the priciest though. The ones at the front are clunky and not good. Where they do the cheap version and just put a rail up on existing seats, you can bang your calves on the existing seat and there are trip hazards where the rail is fixed into the concrete on the floor. Most people think all the rails were at an OK height, no issues seeing over them even for short people, and they're ok to lean on, and people seemed to prefer painting them blue to leaving them silver. Lots of people seem to be suggesting SK1, top half of Kop,  L1 and away section as the standing areas.

 

If you are not a member or ST holder and can't vote in the survey or attend Your 90 Minutes, please let us know your views and we'll feed it all in via Trust feedback and the FAB etc. 

 

 

Away section? What, why would the club want that?

Spudulike

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54 minutes ago, Craig said:

Mandatory if you have it in home areas.

Really, didn't know that. So if any are installed in the South Stand then the away corner will also be filled? I didn't go to Southampton but guessing the away fans section is safe standing?

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CosbehFox

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1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

Really, didn't know that. So if any are installed in the South Stand then the away corner will also be filled? I didn't go to Southampton but guessing the away fans section is safe standing?

Yep. 

Craig

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4 hours ago, Spudulike said:

Really, didn't know that. So if any are installed in the South Stand then the away corner will also be filled? I didn't go to Southampton but guessing the away fans section is safe standing?

I think it's a percentage of the amount the home club install, or a certain percentage of the allocation. Unsure on exact numbers.

Foxes_Trust

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Interesting to read this comment from one of the longest term campaigners on safe standing, who we worked with back in 2012 getting a display of seats available at that time set up at the Local Hero
 
 
 
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Good to see a club giving fans the chance to see a selection of different safe standing options and feed their thoughts into the decision-making process. Can't think of any other club that has gone to such lengths to get supporters' views in advance of making a final decision.
 

 

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I think it’s happening, going to be interesting where they locate it. 
 

Sk1 where the majority stand already would be a logical choice but given that lately our club doesn’t seem to do much logically and a number of areas I’ve seen seem to be in corners of grounds I wouldn’t be surprised if they picked G1.

 

I’ve sat there for years and would prefer not to move but it is what it is. Obviously if the last few years had played out differently on the field we would have an expanded stadium with a much bigger selection of seats to relocate to by the time this was brought in. 

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1 minute ago, Livid said:

but given that lately our club doesn’t seem to do much logically

It's not about logic in fact they're probably quite good at that but football is not about logic well not business logic. They cannot emapthise with any football going fan never mind LCFC ones

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ShepshedFox1884

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13 minutes ago, Livid said:

I think it’s happening, going to be interesting where they locate it. 
 

Sk1 where the majority stand already would be a logical choice but given that lately our club doesn’t seem to do much logically and a number of areas I’ve seen seem to be in corners of grounds I wouldn’t be surprised if they picked G1.

 

I’ve sat there for years and would prefer not to move but it is what it is. Obviously if the last few years had played out differently on the field we would have an expanded stadium with a much bigger selection of seats to relocate to by the time this was brought in. 

I don’t think they will do G1, they still are planning for the expansion to occur in a few years and they want the away end moving to accommodate for the new hospitality in the expanded stand so can’t see them then choosing to put a supporter group underneath it.

in some form it will be the kop 

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Nolucklcfc

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1 hour ago, ShepshedFox1884 said:

I don’t think they will do G1, they still are planning for the expansion to occur in a few years and they want the away end moving to accommodate for the new hospitality in the expanded stand so can’t see them then choosing to put a supporter group underneath it.

in some form it will be the kop 

Yeah I agree, I think it will be the top half of the Kop. 

Trav Le Bleu

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1 hour ago, SemperEadem said:

Its the golden chance to reconfigure the ground, lets hope they don’t waste it.

Swap the kop and the family stand?

Foxes_Trust

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44 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Swap the kop and the family stand?

The Safery Advisory Group are unlikely to approve moving the away fans from the easiest access point of the ground.

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12 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:
Interesting to read this comment from one of the longest term campaigners on safe standing, who we worked with back in 2012 getting a display of seats available at that time set up at the Local Hero
 
 
 
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Good to see a club giving fans the chance to see a selection of different safe standing options and feed their thoughts into the decision-making process. Can't think of any other club that has gone to such lengths to get supporters' views in advance of making a final decision.
 

 

I remember that day well, with my 'Safe Standing Roadshow' at the Local Hero. All of 12 years ago!! (See pic)

 

Great to now see the club moving ahead with this and going to such lengths to get supporters' views before making their final decisions on location and rail seats and/or barriers.

 

While still a campaigner at heart, and happy to answer any general questions here on safe standing, I must also declare an interest, in that I do now act as a freelance agent for one of the potential suppliers (including of the all-steel rail seats).

 

The question posed about why would the club provide safe standing infrastructure for the away fans was correctly answered: for the stadium to be approved for 'licensed standing' provision for safe standing has to be made not only for home fans, but also for at least some away fans. There is no hard and fast rule about how big the away fans' area should be. Some clubs are advised to do 10% of the away area capacity, others are being told that the percentage of the away area done should mirror the percentage for home fans (so, if the home standing area represents, say, 15% of the home capacity, the away standing area should be 15% of the away capacity). But in any case, it is indeed a requirement to do some standing for away fans in order to get the ground licensed for standing. (Though the way it's done in the two areas doesn't have to be the same.)

 

As someone has already mentioned, the big difference between the flat, steel rail seats and the various models with plastic seat bottoms and backs is the space provided by the former. And the lack of any curling seat backs to scrape your shins, or protruding seat brackets to bruise your calves!

 

If you haven't done so already, I'd encourage you to go along and take a look for yourself. It does seem that the club genuinely wants to hear you views.
 

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VERN94

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Disappointing meeting on teams this evening. Sounds like the club are favouring a ‘phased-approach’ starting with small areas that are already standing (singing section & L1). Despite Jim saying on many occasions that nothing has been decided, it sounds like a full kop end is out of the question because of the difficulty relocating people/‘bad pr’ it caused when creating the singing section, as well as the apparent poor uptake in that area. The more people that fill out the survey & get their thoughts to the club before the deadline on the 23rd the better.

niyaminski

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21 minutes ago, VERN94 said:

The more people that fill out the survey & get their thoughts to the club before the deadline on the 23rd the better.

Could someone send the form again?

Nolucklcfc

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1 hour ago, VERN94 said:

Disappointing meeting on teams this evening. Sounds like the club are favouring a ‘phased-approach’ starting with small areas that are already standing (singing section & L1). Despite Jim saying on many occasions that nothing has been decided, it sounds like a full kop end is out of the question because of the difficulty relocating people/‘bad pr’ it caused when creating the singing section, as well as the apparent poor uptake in that area. The more people that fill out the survey & get their thoughts to the club before the deadline on the 23rd the better.

I think they’ll probably do G1 and SK1, L1 and P1 and see how it goes. Sounded like they were scared to commit to doing too many. The survey will tell a lot though if they make the results available 

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