King Power Out

[Gamble92]

Remember genuinely having nightmares as a kid about the Leicester Mercury headline with how much in debt we are before administration.

 

Can't ****ing believe we are back at that point. We are going to have article after article and experts all over telling us we are done.

 

I ****ing despise everything about King Power 

 

[Ethan RL]

3 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

Mate I love the idea and I'm all for it. 

 

But just to contextualise it The Year Of The Fox was given a ticket ban for trying to get Brenda Nout on the big screen. 

 

What do you think Jim is going to do when twenty plus blokes are eyeballing his fuhrer? 

 

Go for it but just be aware of how shitty he and his team are at the minute .  

Didn't this guy (Jim) have a thread in which everyone was praising him, if my memory serves me correctly?

Edited 12 April by Ethan RL

[Gamble92]

23 hours ago, Ethan RL said:

Didn't this guy (Jim) have a thread in which everyone was praising him, if my memory serves me correctly?

Is that Jim from the club shop? Who become Jim Head of Customer communications? Basically the John Rudkin of stuffed Filbert Fox toys

Edited 13 April by Gamble92

[foxile5]

Just now, Gamble92 said:

Is that Jim from the club shop? Who become Jim Head of Customer communications? Basically the John Rudkin of stuffed Filbert Foxestalk toys

That's the kiddie. 

 

Championship 2014 - 'How can we help you? Do you need some tickets?'

 

Championship 2026 - 'I want everyone patted down by showsec before they enter the building. Commence ID checks.'

[Ethan RL]

Myself and a mate of mine were planning on taking a banner to Pompey on Saturday. I assume you can't get banned for taking a banner into another club's away end surely. 

 

I hope I'm not but maybe I'm being thick and they would go to indescribable lengths to identify the person holding such a banner.

[Gamble92]

Just now, foxile5 said:

That's the kiddie. 

 

Championship 2014 - 'How can we help you? Do you need some tickets?'

 

Championship 2026 - 'I want everyone patted down by showsec before they enter the building. Commence ID checks.'

I complained when they got rid of the Student season ticket because I was paying like £149 and travelling from college in Nottingham. Only to see hundreds of free tickets dished out to DMU and my season ticket treble in value.

 

He sent me a nice email appreciating what I was saying but basically patting me on the head and giving me a cookie and telling me to go away.

 

Anyway, he offered me 20% off in the club shop as a small gesture.

 

Next home game arrived, the programme had a ****ing 20% off voucher in it.

 

Not that I'm still bothered or anything.

[MattFox]

3 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

That's the kiddie. 

 

Championship 2014 - 'How can we help you? Do you need some tickets?'

 

Championship 2026 - 'I want everyone patted down by showsec before they enter the building. Commence ID checks.'

Championship 2014

 

KP were charging extortionate rates for “platinum fixtures”

 

 

[foxile5]

2 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

I complained when they got rid of the Student season ticket because I was paying like £149 and travelling from college in Nottingham. Only to see hundreds of free tickets dished out to DMU and my season ticket treble in value.

 

He sent me a nice email appreciating what I was saying but basically patting me on the head and giving me a cookie and telling me to go away.

 

Anyway, he offered me 20% off in the club shop as a small gesture.

 

Next home game arrived, the programme had a ****ing 20% off voucher in it.

 

Not that I'm still bothered or anything.

Remember - he's one of us. A city fan. 

 

It's all so ghastly at the club I'm honestly thinking of jacking it in. 

[1972 Fox]

33 minutes ago, Ethan RL said:

Myself and a mate of mine were planning on taking a banner to Pompey on Saturday. I assume you can't get banned for taking a banner into another club's away end surely. 

 

I hope I'm not but maybe I'm being thick and they would go to indescribable lengths to identify the person holding such a banner.

Sounds like a good idea as stewards at an away ground are not likely to be bothered about an anti KP banner.

 

Although who knows what lengths North Korea FC will actually go to.

[Ethan RL]

9 minutes ago, 1972 Fox said:

Sounds like a good idea as stewards at an away ground are not likely to be bothered about an anti KP banner.

 

Although who knows what lengths North Korea FC will actually go to.

Yea that’s what I was thinking. And I have seen banners when we play away sometimes. 
 

Definitely easier to get em in. If the message on the banner isn’t disrespectful then they surely have no right to follow it up.

[Filbert_Ross]

Keep The Faith 

[1972 Fox]

14 minutes ago, Ethan RL said:

Yea that’s what I was thinking. And I have seen banners when we play away sometimes. 
 

Definitely easier to get em in. If the message on the banner isn’t disrespectful then they surely have no right to follow it up.

It probably needs to be at least slightly disrespectful (not abusive) to have a decent impact.

 

Should be no comebacks at an away ground.

[The Year Of The Fox]

10 minutes ago, 1972 Fox said:

It probably needs to be at least slightly disrespectful (not abusive) to have a decent impact.

 

Should be no comebacks at an away ground.

‘Khun T’

 

Would be a great banner 

[Spanner73]

1 hour ago, Ethan RL said:

Myself and a mate of mine were planning on taking a banner to Pompey on Saturday. I assume you can't get banned for taking a banner into another club's away end surely. 

 

I hope I'm not but maybe I'm being thick and they would go to indescribable lengths to identify the person holding such a banner.

Fair play as someone needs to do something !! 
I only hope its against Aiyawatt/ King Power Out 

[Spiritwalker]

There was a piece on us on Sky Sports this morning, a journalist from

The Athletic said it was well known in English football that Leicester’s

leadership were regarded as mugs.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

42 minutes ago, Spanner73 said:

Fair play as someone needs to do something !! 
I only hope its against Aiyawatt/ King Power Out 

True and is was never going to be you!

[LCFCJohn]

2 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

People have very short and I feel biased memories when it comes to Vichai. 
 

And they tend to fixate on the fact that his ownership had very little to do with the PL win, which in fairness it didn’t. 
 

But at the same time forgetting what he did do was take a stagnant club with no money to the PL in the first place, and that was a lot to do with the ownership. You can’t win the PL if you ain’t in it. 
 

He also cleared debts, bought the stadium back, put money into charities in the city, and treated us superbly as a fan base. 
 

You would not have a single Leicester fan say a bad word about him before that helicopter crash. 
 

What people are doing here is trying to re write history because they are rightly pissed off at his creatin of a son. And that’s not right. 

I generally agree with what you post but our views differ here.

 

I am not saying that he was a bad owner, my point is more about his role in the achievement being overstated to the point people say Vichai or KP ‘won’ us the league. This to me, is disrespectful to all those who, in my opinion, had a larger hand in it or were just as involved.

 

I disagree we were stagnant. We had just come up and immediately finished 5th and got in the playoffs, under Pearson. The future was bright as it was. We may not have had as much investment but we shown in the first couple of years of their ownership, that ‘investment’ meant nothing when not done sensibly. Ultimately, I feel Pearson was getting us back regardless and the needless managerial changes after they took over actually set us back.

 

But, he was able to admit mistakes and act decisively and if his son could do the same, maybe we wouldn’t be on the brink of League 1.

 

You can’t rewrite history when it comes to things like hogging the trophy lift, picture of the Thai king paraded round and removal of references to our previous history from the stadium etc.

 

Obviously their part in the achievements is up for interpretation and rewriting of history if that’s what we are calling it. I believe it is more that we were all swept up at the time and understandable didn’t focus on the red flags such as the above. It is more that time has passed and the dust has settled and we can now see what things were glossed over in that era. People would love any chance to stick the ore into his son by highlighting Vichai’s ownership. If people are criticising Vichai looking back, it’s not due to being angry at his son but due to genuine red flags missed during the ownership. 
 

As I have said before, this is not a case where success was ownership led, such as Brighton and Brentford’s rises up the league and becoming PL sides where the owners strategy is the reason. Our success was mostly linked to one manager and his team. In terms of the set up.
 

Remember that after the title win, we sacked a manager each season due to being in a relegation battle (or heading that way) up until after we had lost Vichai (Ranieri, Shakespeare and Puel). For me, it was never built on stable foundations. It was built on sand and it’s not surprising it has crashed down. When you look back.

Edited 12 April by LCFCJohn

[Blue ROI]

Pearson would be the key figure in our success story.

 

Without the foundations he built I doubt we would have achieved what we did.

 

It was disappointing how he was derided by some after he left.

 

It might have finally dawned on them now how vital he was.

 

I would stick up for Vichai. He did bring Big Nige back and if he made mistakes like the 2016 summer transfer window he wouldn't make things worse.

 

I felt things might turn bad in after November 2018 but I never thought we wold be looking at worst figure in British Football history like what we have with Nepo Baby.

 

[Manwell Pablo]

1 hour ago, LCFCJohn said:

I generally agree with what you post but our views differ here.

 

I am not saying that he was a bad owner, my point is more about his role in the achievement being overstated to the point people say Vichai or KP ‘won’ us the league. This to me, is disrespectful to all those who, in my opinion, had a larger hand in it or were just as involved.

 

I disagree we were stagnant. We had just come up and immediately finished 5th and got in the playoffs, under Pearson. The future was bright as it was. We may not have had as much investment but we shown in the first couple of years of their ownership, that ‘investment’ meant nothing when not done sensibly. Ultimately, I feel Pearson was getting us back regardless and the needless managerial changes after they took over actually set us back.

 

But, he was able to admit mistakes and act decisively and if his son could do the same, maybe we wouldn’t be on the brink of League 1.

 

You can’t rewrite history when it comes to things like hogging the trophy lift, picture of the Thai king paraded round and removal of references to our previous history from the stadium etc.

 

Obviously their part in the achievements is up for interpretation and rewriting of history if that’s what we are calling it. I believe it is more that we were all swept up at the time and understandable didn’t focus on the red flags such as the above. It is more that time has passed and the dust has settled and we can now see what things were glossed over in that era. People would love any chance to stick the ore into his son by highlighting Vichai’s ownership. If people are criticising Vichai looking back, it’s not due to being angry at his son but due to genuine red flags missed during the ownership. 
 

As I have said before, this is not a case where success was ownership led, such as Brighton and Brentford’s rises up the league and becoming PL sides where the owners strategy is the reason. Our success was mostly linked to one manager and his team. In terms of the set up.
 

Remember that after the title win, we sacked a manager each season due to being in a relegation battle (or heading that way) up until after we had lost Vichai (Ranieri, Shakespeare and Puel). For me, it was never built on stable foundations. It was built on sand and it’s not surprising it has crashed down. When you look back.

We are talking purely football there, not business. He’s a business man. 
 

I acknowledge some of the points, but I have raised the point of buying the stadium back and clearing debts three times now. That’s an actual foundation. 
 

You say it’s built on sand I don’t see that, I see someone who made a lot of solid business decisions even if they didn’t have football knowledge to always get that right without a bit of luck. 
 

if we’ve learnt one thing from top’s reign it’s that shit runs down hill, you don’t make sensible business decisions than you may as well not bother worrying about the football. 

[LCFCJohn]

10 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

We are talking purely football there, not business. He’s a business man. 
 

I acknowledge some of the points, but I have raised the point of buying the stadium back and clearing debts three times now. That’s an actual foundation. 
 

You say it’s built on sand I don’t see that, I see someone who made a lot of solid business decisions even if they didn’t have football knowledge to always get that right without a bit of luck. 
 

if we’ve learnt one thing from top’s reign it’s that shit runs down hill, you don’t make sensible business decisions than you may as well not bother worrying about the football. 

Well yes I agree. But my point was him being lauded by many as a football genius, hence people saying he ‘won the league for us’. Obviously business was his skill set. However, if you are being given credit as the owner of the football club, you either need to be a Bloom/Benham who really understands the football side or recruit the right people to oversee the club. You have said yourself, football wasn’t his area of expertise. But he appointed Jon Rudkin to run things. So he has/done neither of those things. The success was based around the manager at the time and that was risky as we saw there was no continuity or succession plan. That’s why I say it was built on sand. Look at the mess that followed with the sackings of Ranieri, Shakespeare and Puel (obviously after his passing but seemingly on the cards and reportedly delayed because of what happened).
 

On your points, stadium yeah fair enough. It was a good thing that we own it. 
 

Clearing the debts. This is the old converting to equity unless I am missing something and Vichai did something different to what Aiyawatt has done. Which isn’t really very helpful as it has just artificially raised the value of the club they would need from a sale beyond what the assets are actually worth. Basically insolvent. If he actually paid off debts that were then not causing a knock on effect to the club and essentially ‘gifted’, then ok.

 

I think you also raised charitable donations. You never know what to believe but allegedly, the donations had to be repeatedly chased. If that was true, it takes away any credit for generousity in my view if it was attempted to be avoided. If it was genuine and given willingly, it is of course generous. But I have said before, without knowing exact amounts regarding wealth and what the donations were, it might be relatively speaking like me or you giving £50 to charity. Yes it’s generous but I wouldn’t expect to be considered a philanthropist forever more because of it. 

As I say, he was fine. Obviously well liked. But people claiming he won the league for us are what get the backs up of people like myself and others. But I do think, when you look back, there were a number of things that displayed a lack of respect for the club such as the things mentioned before. We had a proud history up to 2010 but the whole club has been conditioned to act as though we have only existed since 2010.

[Manwell Pablo]

8 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Well yes I agree. But my point was him being lauded by many as a football genius, hence people saying he ‘won the league for us’. Obviously business was his skill set. However, if you are being given credit as the owner of the football club, you either need to be a Bloom/Benham who really understands the football side or recruit the right people to oversee the club. You have said yourself, football wasn’t his area of expertise. But he appointed Jon Rudkin to run things. So he has/done neither of those things. The success was based around the manager at the time and that was risky as we saw there was no continuity or succession plan. That’s why I say it was built on sand. Look at the mess that followed with the sackings of Ranieri, Shakespeare and Puel (obviously after his passing but seemingly on the cards and reportedly delayed because of what happened).
 

On your points, stadium yeah fair enough. It was a good thing that we own it. 
 

Clearing the debts. This is the old converting to equity unless I am missing something and Vichai did something different to what Aiyawatt has done. Which isn’t really very helpful as it has just artificially raised the value of the club they would need from a sale beyond what the assets are actually worth. Basically insolvent. If he actually paid off debts that were then not causing a knock on effect to the club and essentially ‘gifted’, then ok.

 

I think you also raised charitable donations. You never know what to believe but allegedly, the donations had to be repeatedly chased. If that was true, it takes away any credit for generousity in my view if it was attempted to be avoided. If it was genuine and given willingly, it is of course generous. But I have said before, without knowing exact amounts regarding wealth and what the donations were, it might be relatively speaking like me or you giving £50 to charity. Yes it’s generous but I wouldn’t expect to be considered a philanthropist forever more because of it. 

As I say, he was fine. Obviously well liked. But people claiming he won the league for us are what get the backs up of people like myself and others. But I do think, when you look back, there were a number of things that displayed a lack of respect for the club such as the things mentioned before. We had a proud history up to 2010 but the whole club has been conditioned to act as though we have only existed since 2010.

You’re trying to argue with me about a point I’m not trying to make here John. 
 

I know as well as you do he was extremely lucky we won the league. 
 

But Everyone involved was extremely lucky, you can laud the Scouts, Pearson, Ranieri, King Power etc etc. The one thing most Leicester fans don’t like to admit was five serious forces in English football had a complete season off, that’s why our closest challenger was Spurs until they capitulated. 
 

it’s a madness critism tbh, it’s looking at man who did a lot of things right and the club achieved a lot under his stewardship but then going back and thinking, well it wasn’t all down to him and his sons a dickhead so fck him. Odd odd thinking. 
 

 

Edited 12 April by Manwell Pablo

[joachim1965]

9 hours ago, JonnyBoy said:

The fans that proceed to turn up to these games, are complicit. 

They are, but they don't care.

[LCFCJohn]

27 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

You’re trying to argue with me about a point I’m not trying to make here John. 
 

I know as well as you do he was extremely lucky we won the league. 
 

But Everyone involved was extremely lucky, you can laud the Scouts, Pearson, Ranieri, King Power etc etc. The one thing most Leicester fans don’t like to admit was five serious forces in English football had a complete season off, that’s why our closest challenger was Spurs until they capitulated. 
 

it’s a madness critism tbh, it’s looking at man who did a lot of things right and the club achieved a lot under his stewardship but then going back and thinking, well it wasn’t all down to him and his sons a dickhead so fck him. Odd odd thinking. 
 

 

I agree with you up until your last paragraph. 

You are still sticking by the narrative that Vichai is only being criticised as a f*** you to his son and I have explained why that is not the case. It is simply looking back and reflecting. 
 

You don’t think things like dominating the trophy presentation, picture of Thai king etc are red flags? 
 

The financial nonsense that followed us up to the Premier League originally not a red flag?

 

He did good. He did bad. Like most people I’ll add. Due to the fortuitous events that followed, I’d argue the bad/red flags were brushed under the carpet so it is just brining balance. Nothing to do with his son. 
 

I disagree Pearson and his team were lucky by the way. That was well thought out strategy. 

[Foxin_Mad]

6 hours ago, foxile5 said:

Mate I love the idea and I'm all for it. 

 

But just to contextualise it The Year Of The Fox was given a ticket ban for trying to get Brenda Nout on the big screen. 

 

What do you think Jim is going to do when twenty plus blokes are eyeballing his fuhrer? 

 

Go for it but just be aware of how shitty he and his team are at the minute .  

It’s quite hilarious really as the club is going to have to make some serious redundancies because of the buffoon of an owner we have, I wonder if any of these KPFC goons will be impacted? To be honest if they banned me it might save me wasting time and energy on them once and for all. 

[1884HF]

6 hours ago, Ethan RL said:

Myself and a mate of mine were planning on taking a banner to Pompey on Saturday. I assume you can't get banned for taking a banner into another club's away end surely. 

 

I hope I'm not but maybe I'm being thick and they would go to indescribable lengths to identify the person holding such a banner.

love the sound of it - what's on the banner - King power out?