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I think that all contracts handed out were made in relation to Vardy's wage which was 125k i believe. So Winks for example was given 90k as in, he is worth 72% of Vardy's salary. For a simpleton like Rudkin and those who sign the cheques, that would be a reasonable approach. It obviously falls down when you realise that a) the market for Winks would have been 50k tops and b) we could not even afford £50k in the championship with the wage bill at the time, nevermind £90k when we were on the brink of a PSR breach. I bet they have never done any basic wage benchmarking for any signing or staff. Just an awful way to run any business.

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1 minute ago, Donwebbio said:

I think that all contracts handed out were made in relation to Vardy's wage which was 125k i believe. So Winks for example was given 90k as in, he is worth 72% of Vardy's salary. For a simpleton like Rudkin and those who sign the cheques, that would be a reasonable approach. It obviously falls down when you realise that a) the market for Winks would have been 50k tops and b) we could not even afford £50k in the championship with the wage bill at the time, nevermind £90k when we were on the brink of a PSR breach. I bet they have never done any basic wage benchmarking for any signing or staff. Just an awful way to run any business.

Yeah but it’ll be much better from now 

Posted
16 minutes ago, Stadt said:

I’ve said for years that Rudkin lacks any agency.

 

The regime goons on here trotted out “somebody has to want these players”, well Faes got a move to Monaco and he said there we refused offers in the summer.

 

 A good DoF is on the phone, meeting other clubs and agents, networks around Europe, gets to know Saudis and so on. Rudkin just smacks of being a meek, desk-based DoF who does everything by email (and infamously fax).

 

We’ve never lowballed teams like they do us, we’ve never foisted obligations-to-buy loans on teams, we’ve never engaged in PSR merry go round deals like Chelsea literally showed us how. We’ve never cashed in on pure profit academy sales - excepting KDH and Chilwell I don’t think we’ve sold any academy players for north of a million?

 

Iversen left on a free (Palace tabled 4m iirc?), Bassey left for a nominal fee, Maswanhise left on a free and so on. These sundry transfers should have added up.

 

Like @Dan said the excuse was, “oh we can’t sell these players for a loss because of PSR” which we then failed by an embarrassing distance anyway, there’s always been this embarrassing deference to a proven idiot.

 

An average DoF would have saved us about half a billion pounds this past decade. This is the sort of terminal incompetence which will kill the club.

Missed Barnes but your point still applies

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2 hours ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Missed Barnes but your point still applies

Ah yeah course, but even then he was another of our better players (got less than MV anyway).

 

Anytime we actually have sold a non first choice players it’s felt like a wild overpay rather than any negotiation chops like Cannon or Hirst.

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59 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Ah yeah course, but even then he was another of our better players (got less than MV anyway).

 

Anytime we actually have sold a non first choice players it’s felt like a wild overpay rather than any negotiation chips like Cannon or Hirst.

McAteer was a good deal, but yeah does seem like we aren't very good at getting anything for a majority, lads like Kipre etc where it would all add up to some decent change.

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On 25/04/2026 at 19:15, Clogger_ said:

If there are legitimate reasons to be intimidated, the club they're visiting should be able to help.

 

If however they just don't like boisterous or edgy behaviour from fans on a big day out, suggest away days may not be for them.

So fans who have supported the club for many years shouldn’t go due to the behaviour of fellow fans ?

 

There needs to be tolerance and respect whatever fan “type” you are. The older fans were most likely boisterous in their day, it doesn’t mean they should be forced not to go now 

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, NextPlease said:

So fans who have supported the club for many years shouldn’t go due to the behaviour of fellow fans ?

 

There needs to be tolerance and respect whatever fan “type” you are. The older fans were most likely boisterous in their day, it doesn’t mean they should be forced not to go now 

 

 

But it’s ok for younger fans to be forced out and not accepted or get the opportunity to enjoy a fun and boisterous atmosphere because we have a older fan base who want to sit in silence apart from the odd polite applause?

 

And it’s ok for fans to not feel safe expressing dissatisfaction due to the fear of being physically assaulted by other supporters?

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4 minutes ago, NextPlease said:

So fans who have supported the club for many years shouldn’t go due to the behaviour of fellow fans ?

 

There needs to be tolerance and respect whatever fan “type” you are. The older fans were most likely boisterous in their day, it doesn’t mean they should be forced not to go now 

 

 

yeah but its ok for fans to stay quiet and not express their opinion (which is completely justified) because they might get smacked about like the young lad at sheffield Utd away 

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37 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

But it’s ok for younger fans to be forced out and not accepted or get the opportunity to enjoy a fun and boisterous atmosphere because we have a older fan base who want to sit in silence apart from the odd polite applause?

 

And it’s ok for fans to not feel safe expressing dissatisfaction due to the fear of being physically assaulted by other supporters?

It is tolerance that is required on both sides of any situation.

 

There has always been boisterous fans and quiet fans,  it is the lack of respect for each others preferred method of support that has become the issue, far too toxic towards fans who don’t share the same viewpoints.

 

Wanting change at board level isn’t anything new, it comes in cycles alongside the success or failure on the pitch

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33 minutes ago, NextPlease said:

It is tolerance that is required on both sides of any situation.

 

There has always been boisterous fans and quiet fans,  it is the lack of respect for each others preferred method of support that has become the issue, far too toxic towards fans who don’t share the same viewpoints.

 

Wanting change at board level isn’t anything new, it comes in cycles alongside the success or failure on the pitch

All this is correct. But the underlying tone suggests that you are very much trying to suggest that the side who want change are causing this and the problem rather than it being the two way street it is.

 

I think it was yourself I commented to on maybe Saturday, you’d have to check your notifications. But basically tracing how all this started and it stems from the lack of tolerance from those who can’t see any wrong with the owner becoming aggressive and shouting down/attacking those speaking out. The lack of tolerance from those of us who want change towards those who don’t, has stemmed and grown to the point of being toxic from their original actions. 

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10 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

All this is correct. But the underlying tone suggests that you are very much trying to suggest that the side who want change are causing this and the problem rather than it being the two way street it is.

 

I think it was yourself I commented to on maybe Saturday, you’d have to check your notifications. But basically tracing how all this started and it stems from the lack of tolerance from those who can’t see any wrong with the owner becoming aggressive and shouting down/attacking those speaking out. The lack of tolerance from those of us who want change towards those who don’t, has stemmed and grown to the point of being toxic from their original actions. 

I agree it’s a two way street.

 

Who started it is largely irrelevant (each side of the debate will blame the opposing view) it’s the lack of respecting others opinion that is the main issue

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13 minutes ago, NextPlease said:

I agree it’s a two way street.

 

Who started it is largely irrelevant (each side of the debate will blame the opposing view) it’s the lack of respecting others opinion that is the main issue

Again, I agree in principle and I’d love us to have a United fan base. This is more damaging than anything else. Players, managers and owners come and go but the fan base it the constant and right now it is broken.

 

But I’d say it’s still relevant.

 

The ‘change’ campaign did not turn on the ‘KP stay’ supporters. People innocently making their point getting turned on physically and verbally not relevant? 
 

Which side of the debate are behaving like any other fanbase of a club getting run to the ground? Did Portsmouth, Derby, Wednesday, Bury etc fans sit by and say this is ok or did they speak out? 
 

Also, which side of the debate is able to give coherent arguments for their views? The change one of course. Careful what you wise for, we won the league 10 years ago etc are not strong arguments to what is happening now. 
 

Those pushing for change need to of course keep it factual and I’m absolutely not in favour of foul language and abuse and the stuff that turns many people off. Keep it factual, keep it clean. But the facts are, those speaking out for change, if done in the right way, have a really solid case. Those spitting their dummy and going out their way to attack that movement, really don’t. 

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15 hours ago, dmayne7 said:

Feel sick go say anything in defence of these clowns but that genuinely will be a factor and it's why PSR is a load of bollocks. A club makes a bad investment and then they are saddled with that for several years. Yep, makes sense when you want clubs to have good financial stability...

 

In our case, we'll be to thick to see the potential cost saving Vs the loss on book value evening itself out and so just refuse to sell at an acceptable price.

I agree with you by the way and I think PSR is a complete joke. I just get a bit fed up of our half way house which always seems to ensure we are lumbered with players on big contracts who offer nothing to us and this isn't happening to everybody else.

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8 hours ago, Stadt said:

I’ve said for years that Rudkin lacks any agency.

 

The regime goons on here trotted out “somebody has to want these players”, well Faes got a move to Monaco and he said there we refused offers in the summer.

 

 A good DoF is on the phone, meeting other clubs and agents, networks around Europe, gets to know Saudis and so on. Rudkin just smacks of being a meek, desk-based DoF who does everything by email (and infamously fax).

 

We’ve never lowballed teams like they do us, we’ve never foisted obligations-to-buy loans on teams, we’ve never engaged in PSR merry go round deals like Chelsea literally showed us how. We’ve never cashed in on pure profit academy sales - excepting KDH and Chilwell I don’t think we’ve sold any academy players for north of a million?

 

Iversen left on a free (Palace tabled 4m iirc?), Bassey left for a nominal fee, Maswanhise left on a free and so on. These sundry transfers should have added up.

 

Like @Dan said the excuse was, “oh we can’t sell these players for a loss because of PSR” which we then failed by an embarrassing distance anyway, there’s always been this embarrassing deference to a proven idiot.

 

An average DoF would have saved us about half a billion pounds this past decade. This is the sort of terminal incompetence which will kill the club.

That said, he did get more than top whack for Maguire and Fofana. Or was that big fat Sue?

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7 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

That said, he did get more than top whack for Maguire and Fofana. Or was that big fat Sue?

Whelan stepped in for Maguire.

 

Fofana was just an obvious talent, didn’t require much negotiating ability to get that for him.

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19 hours ago, NextPlease said:

So fans who have supported the club for many years shouldn’t go due to the behaviour of fellow fans ?

 

There needs to be tolerance and respect whatever fan “type” you are. The older fans were most likely boisterous in their day, it doesn’t mean they should be forced not to go now 

 

 

They're not being forced not to go. If they decide it is not for them any more, c'est la vie - quite literally. There are lots of things I can't do any more! Either that or turn a blind eye...the choice is theirs. (There are things I don't like to hear: German bomber songs etc. I choose to ignore and to stay away from the perps.)

 

Younger fans however *should not* have to change the way they behave, within bounds of rules, legality etc. You are describing *exactly* the mentality that has turned our club into an anodyne shadow of it's former self. It's why our ground is dead: far too much accomodation and active encouragement of those who want to sit there mute.

 

FWIW I bet you find that most younger folks are extremely helpful and accomodating to older folks if the situation arises.

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'Mike Ashley's Frasers Group has a significant retail presence in Leicester, highlighted by a 90,000 sq ft multi-brand "superstore" at Fosse Park, which opened around 2021 featuring Flannels, Sports Direct, Evans Cycles, and Game. The group also acquired a 6.4% stake in Leicester-based Marks Electrical in 2024 and was involved in the rescue of Missguided.'

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10 hours ago, Wymsey said:

'Mike Ashley's Frasers Group has a significant retail presence in Leicester, highlighted by a 90,000 sq ft multi-brand "superstore" at Fosse Park, which opened around 2021 featuring Flannels, Sports Direct, Evans Cycles, and Game. The group also acquired a 6.4% stake in Leicester-based Marks Electrical in 2024 and was involved in the rescue of Missguided.'

'In 2024, Leicester's HQ Recording Studios, owned by Yasin El Ashrafi, worked on a project featuring Lord Sugar.

In April 2025, Lord Sugar supported a Leicester medic's successful campaign to rename a rare condition to improve patient safety, following the death of a patient from improper care.

The success of major local businesses, such as Dunelm, which began at Leicester Markets, is occasionally referenced in regional business narratives alongside Sugar's own market trading background.'

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10 hours ago, Wymsey said:

'Mike Ashley's Frasers Group has a significant retail presence in Leicester, highlighted by a 90,000 sq ft multi-brand "superstore" at Fosse Park, which opened around 2021 featuring Flannels, Sports Direct, Evans Cycles, and Game. The group also acquired a 6.4% stake in Leicester-based Marks Electrical in 2024 and was involved in the rescue of Missguided.'

I’m not sure having a big shop at one of the countries most popular shopping centre means there’s any tangible link to the club

 

 

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On 28/04/2026 at 07:56, Stadt said:

I’ve said for years that Rudkin lacks any agency.

 

The regime goons on here trotted out “somebody has to want these players”, well Faes got a move to Monaco and he said there we refused offers in the summer.

 

 A good DoF is on the phone, meeting other clubs and agents, networks around Europe, gets to know Saudis and so on. Rudkin just smacks of being a meek, desk-based DoF who does everything by email (and infamously fax).

 

We’ve never lowballed teams like they do us, we’ve never foisted obligations-to-buy loans on teams, we’ve never engaged in PSR merry go round deals like Chelsea literally showed us how. We’ve never cashed in on pure profit academy sales - excepting KDH and Chilwell I don’t think we’ve sold any academy players for north of a million?

 

Iversen left on a free (Palace tabled 4m iirc?), Bassey left for a nominal fee, Maswanhise left on a free and so on. These sundry transfers should have added up.

 

Like @Dan said the excuse was, “oh we can’t sell these players for a loss because of PSR” which we then failed by an embarrassing distance anyway, there’s always been this embarrassing deference to a proven idiot.

 

An average DoF would have saved us about half a billion pounds this past decade. This is the sort of terminal incompetence which will kill the club.

This is the incompetence that will kill the club !! 
 

Exactly ! 
 

The worst thing that could happen to us is that Aiyawatt finally comes to his senses and starts to improve personally I don’t think it’ll happen ever ! 

 

Just let Aiyawatt carry f ing up for the quickest possible outcome for us all because it’s going to happen It’s just a question of time  ! 
 

The day KP leaves is coming ! 
We just have to be patient 

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Plan for next season.

Keep as much as the squad as possible, especially Winks on a new contract.  Winks gets to pick the manager, has to be kept happy.
50m budget for team, macquire loan fund day to day.
Play out from the back, it will work at some point.
Try to get more ex man city staff.
Work on Enzo until last week of transfer window, then go to fall back plan.
Sell Fatawa for 6 million. Macquire loan to get it all in one go, 11.6 million repayable.
2 new flagship 30+ year old EPL signings.
Daka to remain as only striker.
3 year extension for both Ricardo and Vestergaard.
Thai Bet new sponsor.

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1 hour ago, Chrysalis said:

Plan for next season.

Keep as much as the squad as possible, especially Winks on a new contract.  Winks gets to pick the manager, has to be kept happy.
50m budget for team, macquire loan fund day to day.
Play out from the back, it will work at some point.
Try to get more ex man city staff.
Work on Enzo until last week of transfer window, then go to fall back plan.
Sell Fatawa for 6 million. Macquire loan to get it all in one go, 11.6 million repayable.
2 new flagship 30+ year old EPL signings.
Daka to remain as only striker.
3 year extension for both Ricardo and Vestergaard.
Thai Bet new sponsor.

This has made me feel nauseous. You can totally seeing it happening in Rudkin World too. 

Posted
51 minutes ago, Trev3939 said:

It actually angers me how happy a day tomorrow should have been, ten years on from winning the title, yet they’ve ruined it for everyone. It should have been a day of celebration but instead it’s the final game of our worst season ever

No no no Jon Rudkin was the architect of our title win.

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