King Power Out

[Tielemans63]

Can't remember where I read it on here, but (if it's true) can you imagine how much different things would have been if Steve Walsh had rightly been promoted to DoF over the totally unqualified Rudkin?

 

What makes this all the more galling is that Top could do everyone, not least himself, a massive favour by sacking him and getting in someone who knows what they're doing. The first part of the solution is so glaringly obvious, it's painful.

[Fox92]

Great article. But for those saying the media won't see it, some of our fans don't even see it.

 

Great point here providing we picked another manager on reputation:

 

Quote

Club officials were reportedly impressed by his playing career, reputation and “aura”, not least during the two games Leicester visited Old Trafford during his interim stint. His record of developing youth was another bonus.

 

Edited 24 December 2024 by Fox92

[Death by Football]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

Van Nistelrooy is leading Leicester to inevitable relegation - and PSR nightmare

 

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/leicester-ruud-van-nistelrooy-relegation-psr-nightmare-3448741?ITO=newsnow

Wow...that's a brilliant article that highlights exactly the situation we're in without making us out to be entitled.  Most right minded fans can see the state of the club, let's hope the rest of the media cottons on to it and adds the pressure on the board to act.

[Tielemans63]

11 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Great point here providing we picked another manager on reputation:

 

More worryingly, on his reputation as a player, because his reputation as a manager is mixed at best.

 

Also seems the next item on the list of essential qualifications was 'good aura'.

[Claudio Fannieri]

Brilliant article and really does capture how badly run we are as a club.
 

Got to be honest I have been holding back on going all in on the club but too be honest the final straw for me was when i completed one of my runs for Prostate Cancer at the KP at the end of October. 

 

Firstly I just want to praise Jay the fan engagement executive who was first class and made it all happen, absolutely great guy and brilliant representative of the club, however after that it was pretty disappointing, initially the club had drawn up a social media post to help draw attention and additional support which was due to be run a couple of days later (Halloween) I even had to confirm back I was happy with the content, only to be notified on the day that it had been dropped by someone above, given the cause, the opportunity to raise awareness of a disease that can impact 75% of our Matchday support and that it was a football related fundraising event with one of their supporters top of the fundraising table was a massive own goal and also a right old kick in the nuts. 
 

The truth is there are some great people at the club real salt of the earth, however the decision makers continue to disconnect the club from its fanbase with moronic decision after moronic decision, whether in my case the above or the sponsorship fiasco, membership and season tickets, or appointing Cooper there is no end to the utter distain the seniors of the club hold us fans.

 

Edited 24 December 2024 by Claudio Fannieri

[Bob Weasel Fox]

4 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

I'd love it to go bang but I fear it's just going to be a very drawn out thing. We'll just become Stoke.

****ing hell man

 

of all the hideous things that could happen I fear being the next Stoke is just a step too far . . . . . 

[RYM]

8 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said:

More worryingly, on his reputation as a player, because his reputation as a manager is mixed at best.

 

Also seems the next item on the list of essential qualifications was 'good aura'.

Employed because he is basically “bringing the vibes” is incredible isn’t it. 

Appointed by teenage girls in Peru?

 

#Vibes #itsgiving #livelaughlove 

[The boy Linacre]

1 hour ago, ealingfox said:

 

Best article on us in years. This is required reading for every KPFC merchant.

Its out there now, the fans know it, the press now know it.

 

You still have time to do something about this Top, its still in your hands IF YOU CAN AFFECT CHANGE in JAN.  

Bin Rudkin and bring 4 Premier League starters ins, stop conceding goals.

We can still survive...........Off you go owners and the Board

[inckley fox]

In all honesty, I think they've been getting managerial calls wrong for longer than we necessarily think.

 

The clock should have been ticking for Rodgers in the closing stages of 2021-22. It was clear that our spend in the summer of '21 hadn't added to the squad, and in the post-Forest defeat period it also became clear that we were going to fall short of a European finish and wind up in a financial mess. Our only 'way out' was to avoid relegation in 2023 and accept a small deduction, and the only way to do that was to get rid of a manager who wasn't toeing the line any more. Rodgers, for all his achievements, effectively guaranteed us relegation by constantly reminding the squad that they were relegation fodder when their paychecks suggested otherwise. And we let him.

 

Smith, clearly, was either the wrong man to keep us up, or the right man two weeks late. His ppg suggests the latter, which is especially damning.

 

Maresca, while as good a manager as we've had for some years, was the wrong appointment for that moment in time too. He's a very good manager who delivered what the bookies expected emphatically. But there were clearly doubts in the club that we could sustain his style of football upon promotion. If there weren't, Cooper would never have been the successor. There was also a feeling among all of us that we were providing a stepping stone for a manager who would be well-hyped and pushed for big things, as opposed to building a long-term project with us. His arrival - like our signings in the summer of 2023 - indicated that we weren't at all for rebuilding in the lower leagues over a year or two, getting our financial house in order, accumulating a promising young squad and then coming back with decks cleared, and well-braced for survival. This was about quick fixes. And now we're seeing that, sooner or later, we needed a longer-term rebuild, even if it meant some short-term pain.

 

If you add to everything that we appeared to mislead two of the above three managers on our financial situation, resulting in one having a relegation-clinching sulk and the other griping at the very moment in time that the big clubs came calling, and it's not a pretty picture.

 

Then you get to Cooper. Fans who felt we were a league above him, that he was a no-hoper, or that he was holding us back were wrong. And had we been hit with a serious financial penalty, perhaps he would have been a passable stopgap who made something of a fist of the campaign. But we weren't hit with the penalty, meaning we actually needed something very different. His past connections shouldn't have been such a huge factor, but they were, and those running the club should have been way more aware of the potential for a level of hostility which undermined our chances. The contrast between his style and the predecessor's, while perhaps a necessary tweak, was also never going to go down well with those in the dressing room who were brought in to implement that style, or those that bought into it. Again, the fault here doesn't purely lie with bringing Cooper in, but also having gone full-in on the Maresca project a year earlier.

 

Still, Cooper's appointment - while seriously flawed - at least suggests some degree of reasoning on their part. Given the circumstances, and the kind of Catch-22 we found ourselves in, it's almost understandable.

 

Which brings us to Ruud. Maybe he'll turn out to be a great manager - we wouldn't know yet if that's the case. But there aren't many reasons to believe in a man appointed for his aura and youth record, contracted on a whim by a chairman who knows little about football and had got bored of the advice of those he'd entrusted with the football side of things. The obvious solution was for the owner to get different advice, as opposed to charging in and taking the reins himself, but he didn't do that either. And when people who aren't very good at appointing managers appoint a manager you naturally respond to the first couple of hammerings by saying, 'here we go again'.

 

King Power, I maintain, don't need to go. We'd be a lot better off if they simply put better people in charge of the operation. If, for instance, there was an acknowledgement of past errors, followed by Rudkin being moved sideways, an uprooting of recruitment and someone respected like Puel, Walsh or Pearson taking up the DoF role, and if this were coupled by Top saying 'look, we've got stuff wrong and this might take a few years to work out' - then I think people would at least see evidence of things going in the right direction. But if they won't learn from their errors, there's only two possible endings: Disaster or departure.

 

If you didn't read all that, or did and thought I'd insulted your intelligence by stating what seems pretty obvious to me, then apologies. It's quite cathartic to have a moan, though.

[westernpark]

1 minute ago, inckley fox said:

In all honesty, I think they've been getting managerial calls wrong for longer than we necessarily think.

 

The clock should have been ticking for Rodgers in the closing stages of 2021-22. It was clear that our spend in the summer of '21 hadn't added to the squad, and in the post-Forest defeat period it also became clear that we were going to fall short of a European finish and wind up in a financial mess. Our only 'way out' was to avoid relegation in 2023 and accept a small deduction, and the only way to do that was to get rid of a manager who wasn't toeing the line any more. Rodgers, for all his achievements, effectively guaranteed us relegation by constantly reminding the squad that they were relegation fodder when their paychecks suggested otherwise. And we let him.

 

Smith, clearly, was either the wrong man to keep us up, or the right man two weeks late. His ppg suggests the latter, which is especially damning.

 

Maresca, while as good a manager as we've had for some years, was the wrong appointment for that moment in time too. He's a very good manager who delivered what the bookies expected emphatically. But there were clearly doubts in the club that we could sustain his style of football upon promotion. If there weren't, Cooper would never have been the successor. There was also a feeling among all of us that we were providing a stepping stone for a manager who would be well-hyped and pushed for big things, as opposed to building a long-term project with us. His arrival - like our signings in the summer of 2023 - indicated that we weren't at all for rebuilding in the lower leagues over a year or two, getting our financial house in order, accumulating a promising young squad and then coming back with decks cleared, and well-braced for survival. This was about quick fixes. And now we're seeing that, sooner or later, we needed a longer-term rebuild, even if it meant some short-term pain.

 

If you add to everything that we appeared to mislead two of the above three managers on our financial situation, resulting in one having a relegation-clinching sulk and the other griping at the very moment in time that the big clubs came calling, and it's not a pretty picture.

 

Then you get to Cooper. Fans who felt we were a league above him, that he was a no-hoper, or that he was holding us back were wrong. And had we been hit with a serious financial penalty, perhaps he would have been a passable stopgap who made something of a fist of the campaign. But we weren't hit with the penalty, meaning we actually needed something very different. His past connections shouldn't have been such a huge factor, but they were, and those running the club should have been way more aware of the potential for a level of hostility which undermined our chances. The contrast between his style and the predecessor's, while perhaps a necessary tweak, was also never going to go down well with those in the dressing room who were brought in to implement that style, or those that bought into it. Again, the fault here doesn't purely lie with bringing Cooper in, but also having gone full-in on the Maresca project a year earlier.

 

Still, Cooper's appointment - while seriously flawed - at least suggests some degree of reasoning on their part. Given the circumstances, and the kind of Catch-22 we found ourselves in, it's almost understandable.

 

Which brings us to Ruud. Maybe he'll turn out to be a great manager - we wouldn't know yet if that's the case. But there aren't many reasons to believe in a man appointed for his aura and youth record, contracted on a whim by a chairman who knows little about football and had got bored of the advice of those he'd entrusted with the football side of things. The obvious solution was for the owner to get different advice, as opposed to charging in and taking the reins himself, but he didn't do that either. And when people who aren't very good at appointing managers appoint a manager you naturally respond to the first couple of hammerings by saying, 'here we go again'.

 

King Power, I maintain, don't need to go. We'd be a lot better off if they simply put better people in charge of the operation. If, for instance, there was an acknowledgement of past errors, followed by Rudkin being moved sideways, an uprooting of recruitment and someone respected like Puel, Walsh or Pearson taking up the DoF role, and if this were coupled by Top saying 'look, we've got stuff wrong and this might take a few years to work out' - then I think people would at least see evidence of things going in the right direction. But if they won't learn from their errors, there's only two possible endings: Disaster or departure.

 

If you didn't read all that, or did and thought I'd insulted your intelligence by stating what seems pretty obvious to me, then apologies. It's quite cathartic to have a moan, though.

Wes Morgan, Steve Cooper and Martin O’Neill, the forest connection doesn’t matter if you are good enough.

[J. James]

2 hours ago, davieG said:

Van Nistelrooy is leading Leicester to inevitable relegation - and PSR nightmare

 

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/leicester-ruud-van-nistelrooy-relegation-psr-nightmare-3448741?ITO=newsnow

Totally correct from beginning to end, not Cooper the "fall guy's" fault or Ruvanis when he fails, entirely on Top and Rudkin.

 

Certain passages stand out for me

"Club officials were reportedly impressed by his playing career, reputation and “aura”, not least during the two games Leicester visited Old Trafford during his interim stint."

By club officials he obviously means Rudkin, as l've commented before, this appointment was based on his playing career his appearance and beating us!

 

Rooney has been appointed by other like minded fools multiple times and how has that gone?

Another passage "There’s a fair argument that any Premier League manager starting Ward in goal in 2024 deserves whatever follows."

 

Not so much the pointing out that Ward is - as we have seen every time he plays - utterly incompetent but what it says about Van Nistelrooy who selected him TWICE!

 

But lots on here find excuses for him for precisely the same reasons the half wits in charge of the club appointed him!

 

Great article from a man with no axe to grind.

 

So it's not so much a case of would we be better off with a new owner, if we hope to compete in the EPL ever again we MUST have a new owner because frankly the present one is on a par with Rudkin and Ward.

[Nolucklcfc]

Protests needed. 

[joachim1965]

2 hours ago, davieG said:

Van Nistelrooy is leading Leicester to inevitable relegation - and PSR nightmare

 

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/leicester-ruud-van-nistelrooy-relegation-psr-nightmare-3448741?ITO=newsnow

Brutal but spot on.

[inckley fox]

28 minutes ago, westernpark said:

Wes Morgan, Steve Cooper and Martin O’Neill, the forest connection doesn’t matter if you are good enough.

Yes, of course. But O'Neill, like Cooper (and Gary Megson) endured a torrid first twelve weeks in which the Forest connection wasn't, at that point, forgotten!

 

To me it's an absurd distraction. But if I were appointing a Leicester manager, and knew he needed to get off to a flying start because he was succeeding a boss who'd done well, I might not have gone for the Forest man.

[adam]

23 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Protests needed. 

Time for the tennis balls

[Nolucklcfc]

1 minute ago, adam said:

Time for the tennis balls

Crowns with no power written on them 

[Fox92]

25 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Protests needed. 

I do wonder how many people would be happy to join in. I'm all for it. Fed up of this shit.

[Nolucklcfc]

2 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

I do wonder how many people would be happy to join in. I'm all for it. Fed up of this shit.

Need chants during every game if people care enough. Not just when we lose. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

Funny thing is rather than focusing the boos and vitriol towards players like Ward and Justin, perhaps direct them at the person/people responsible for creating a culture where players are rewarded with long term contracts and extortionate wages which do not reflect their achievements, in the case of Ward and Hamza, both of whom are clearly a mile off the required standard they were offered new long term contract extensions, in Hamza’s case on ridiculous money. 
 

We need to be ruthless, if player is not performing inside 2 years we cut our losses and move them on, that goes for the former academy prospects like  Hamza, Iversen and Thomas instead of stockpiling average players with little hunger or desire. 
 

We have allowed players to get too comfortable there is zero ambition to get out playing, they are millionaires happy to drift along at what can only be deemed a glorified holiday camp to some and our board don’t have the ruthlessness to move people on, instead they facilitate it and have destroyed the fearless culture and ambition to disrupt the big six. 
 

We need to rip it up and start again, our blue print has to be looking for young ambitious managers, innovative in our recruitment of players and be courageous with our academy prospects, give them a pathway if they are good enough use them or get them out on loan, if they are not then move them on. Let’s get back to recruiting players with a high ceiling and opportunity to sell on to elite clubs, make a major sale each summer and reinvest, we showed glimpses of this under Enzo last year but sadly this is no longer the norm and at the moment we are an absolute basket case. 
 

For me it starts with Rudkin, get rid and bring in an experienced ambitious DoF who can create the culture and blueprint and is a skilled operator in moving on our deadwood. 

[brownfox]

KP have a big summer ahead of them regardless of which division we are in. 
 

they need to address recruitment and get rid of Glover and bring someone in who can bring the right young hungry talent. What’s the point of having this fancy training ground if we don’t produce talent. 
 

Rudkin- it’s an awkward one for Top as he is his man at Leicester but he is rubbish at making decisions. Need to cut ties 

 

The expansion of the ground, if they spend the summer faffing about with that then I want KP gone as they don’t know their priorities. Concentrating on rebuilding the team is priority and getting rid of deadwood.

[SystonFox]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

I do wonder how many people would be happy to join in. I'm all for it. Fed up of this shit.

we need to march in the  street. riot our way to the game and loot the north stand contactless bar. jump the barrier. take all the balti pies. throw said pies on the pitch. what are they going to do? drink guinness in the stands. who's gonna stop me? i'll chant Rudkin out outside main reception for a week after we get bummed by Manchester City. im triple captaining haaland now in prep.

[MattFox]

It’s the year 2024 and people still think theirs a chance Top will cut ties with Rudkin

 

I have a bridge to sell you

[RoboFox]

“But finding a defensively capable manager – David Moyes was and is available – or allowing Van Nistelrooy to bring in his own staff would have been the priority for a serious football club.”

 

Judging by what Shearer said to guest David Moyes on TRIF live podcast episode the other day (which Moyes tellingly didn’t react to), it was insinuated that Moyes turned us down.

 

The official line from the club that he and Potter weren’t in consideration was - and always is - bollocks.

[joachim1965]

1 hour ago, SystonFox said:

we need to march in the  street. riot our way to the game and loot the north stand contactless bar. jump the barrier. take all the balti pies. throw said pies on the pitch. what are they going to do? drink guinness in the stands. who's gonna stop me? i'll chant Rudkin out outside main reception for a week after we get bummed by Manchester City. im triple captaining haaland now in prep.

Ooh, how much you want for it.

[Mr.Bingles]

6 hours ago, davieG said:

Van Nistelrooy is leading Leicester to inevitable relegation - and PSR nightmare

 

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/leicester-ruud-van-nistelrooy-relegation-psr-nightmare-3448741?ITO=newsnow

“here’s the secret: Leicester are bad defensively because they have sub-par defenders who are being psychologically damaged by their collective underperformance and incompetence.”

 

 

“Blame should lie almost solely with Rudkin, and to a lesser extent Top, architects of the destruction of a club which won the FA Cup just over three years ago. 

Prior success is meaningless when the future is so bleak. This has been a long time coming, and the effects will be felt for even longer.”

 

Absolutely spot on! 

 

 

Edited 24 December 2024 by Mr.Bingles