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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Md9 said:

I have never heard any body so obsessed with someone as trump is with Biden. He can’t go a single day without talking about him 

Part ego at having lost to him, part easy scapegoating for the results of his own self interested and sociopathic decisions.

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Posted
12 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Think this one belongs here rather than the scientific thread because it's rather "human interest":

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8jwj90ejno

 

There are some scientific discoveries that do much more than advance our knowledge: they create a shift in our psyche as they show us the scale of the Universe and our place in it.

One such moment was when space craft sent back images of the Earth for the first time. Another is the discovery of life on another world, a moment that has inched a little closer today with the news that signs of a gas, which on Earth is produced by simple marine organisms, has been found on a planet called K2-18b.

Now, the prospect of really finding alien life - meaning we are not alone in the Universe - is not far away, according to the scientist leading the team that made the detection.

"This is basically as big as it gets in terms of fundamental questions, and we may be on the verge of answering that question," says Prof Nikku Madhusudhan of the Institute of Astronomy at Cambridge University.

But all of this prompts even more questions, including, if they do find life on another world, how will this change us as a species?

 

Fascinating topic of discussion.

Whilst I do not at all doubt this to be the case I'm always baffled by how they could possibly detect a gas on a planet we're incapable of reaching.

 

I have the utmost faith in science but I do not understand the science behind it.

Posted
10 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

Whilst I do not at all doubt this to be the case I'm always baffled by how they could possibly detect a gas on a planet we're incapable of reaching.

 

I have the utmost faith in science but I do not understand the science behind it.

Come on over to the sci thread and sometime soon I'll make a post on spectroscopy and how it can identify emitted gases by electromagnetic spectra alone. :)

Posted
1 hour ago, Zear0 said:

Some of us were doing important stuff like playing WoW and certainly not wasting our time with girls. 

Some of us were wondering what a video game was and when would we get to play one in our own home!

Posted
38 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Come on over to the sci thread and sometime soon I'll make a post on spectroscopy and how it can identify emitted gases by electromagnetic spectra alone. :)

Can you come into my workplace and examine the gases emitted by erstwhile LCFC, Cov and Cardiff player Nick Platnauer?

 

I'd say methane, but it smells not-of-this-Earth. I'm really surprised he wasn't faster round the pitch, given his jet propulsion.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Foxdiamond said:

It may be very difficult but I would suggest parents (I am) take more notice of what their children are doing. Only last week the majority here were saying that Adolescence highlighted how ignorant they were 

But do you know your childs movement 24/7? What if they said going round a mates to work on homework? I agree with what your saying as i have a 12 year old daughter but there is only so much you can control.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Thefox81 said:

But do you know your childs movement 24/7? What if they said going round a mates to work on homework? I agree with what your saying as i have a 12 year old daughter but there is only so much you can control.

I agree about the difficulty and you can't be sure 24/7 but some parents I think are naive or too complacent in their attitudes towards children and are happy to accept any excuse 

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1 hour ago, Md9 said:

I have never heard any body so obsessed with someone as trump is with Biden. He can’t go a single day without talking about him 

Obviously he’s a noob but you can’t deny that this is very very funny 

 

Posted
13 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

I agree about the difficulty and you can't be sure 24/7 but some parents I think are naive or too complacent in their attitudes towards children and are happy to accept any excuse 

You realise criminal convictions apply to all though right? Not just the “complacent” ones. So you think parents who try their best, but as you say can’t be sure 24/7 should have their lives ruined with criminal convictions? Because there 14 year old has sex with another 14 year old?

 

If you’re a parent, if you thought your 14 year old was going round their friends house to do homework but then they ended up having sex together, you should have to go through the years long anxiety of being arrested, have your life on hold for a year or two, go to court, likely lose your job, have a criminal record etc. because of that. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Sampson said:

You realise criminal convictions apply to all though right? Not just the “complacent” ones. So you think parents who try their best, but as you say can’t be sure 24/7 should have their lives ruined with criminal convictions? Because there 14 year old has sex with another 14 year old?

 

If you’re a parent, if you thought your 14 year old was going round their friends house to do homework but then they ended up having sex together, you should have to go through the years long anxiety of being arrested, have your life on hold for a year or two, go to court, likely lose your job, have a criminal record etc. because of that. 

To be clear I would prefer people not to be prosecuted in law. By using the term criminal I mean that there are a lot of parents not doing anywhere near what could be called their best. Surely it can't be good for society for children having under age sex? 

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42 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

To be clear I would prefer people not to be prosecuted in law. By using the term criminal I mean that there are a lot of parents not doing anywhere near what could be called their best. Surely it can't be good for society for children having under age sex? 

But how do you do that. If my daughter says she is going to her mates for homework then who am i to question that. Shes never lied (that i know of) before. Its so difficult and i hope im doing my best for her.

Posted
1 minute ago, Thefox81 said:

But how do you do that. If my daughter says she is going to her mates for homework then who am i to question that. Shes never lied (that i know of) before. Its so difficult and i hope im doing my best for her.

I would ask what mate at what address.  You are entitled to know that. Also will the other child's parent or responsible adult be at the address? 

Posted
1 hour ago, Foxdiamond said:

To be clear I would prefer people not to be prosecuted in law. By using the term criminal I mean that there are a lot of parents not doing anywhere near what could be called their best. Surely it can't be good for society for children having under age sex? 

I can only assume you grew up in a town or city with lots for young kids to do.

Posted
5 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

I would ask what mate at what address.  You are entitled to know that. Also will the other child's parent or responsible adult be at the address? 

I do all that. But you never know who theyre going to meet when leaving the house to getting home??? I give my kids 100% trust until they break it.

Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, The Doctor said:

You talk of single sex spaces and yet you don't actually consider the impact they also have on trans people. Like, lets talk sex crimes and in particular let's talk about behaviour within prison wards. Are you aware of the concept of V-Coding? It is a truly abhorrent practice that occurs when trans women are put in male prisons and the prison staff use those trans women to pacify incarcerated men through their institutionalised rape: https://www.repository.law.indiana.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1087&context=ijlse

 

As to the argument around men opting out, this is a fundamental level at which we will never agree. Trans women are not men, not sociologically, not biologically. As far as I am concerned a trans woman who has undergone medical transition is a biological woman (and vice versa with trans men), because medical transition alters your biology (this is the entire point of all medicine - to alter your biology to treat the condition). It does not alter chromosomes but chromosomes are frankly irrelevant - they are the blueprints for the body, not the reality of the body. The endocrinology of the body and the reproductive capabilities of the body are far more important (and the reproductive capabilites are not binary for that matter, we don't define infertile and fertile as different sexes). The counterpoints to that get far closer to arguments for intelligent design that I'll ever give the time of day to.

 

My position is not that there should be no single sex spaces at all, it's that single sex spaces which treat trans men as women and trans women as men fundamentally fail to achieve the point of single sex spaces and instead are the wilful endangerment of trans women, which ultimately endangers all women through increasing harassment of people for slighter and slighter gender non-conformity (case in point, women being harassed for being taller than average: https://www.yahoo.com/news/walmart-fires-64-cisgender-woman-210344920.html)

It is not the responsibility of women to solve the problem of male violence. Of course trans women prisoners must be protected from the kind of horrific abuses you describe, but the answer to that is to create places where they are safe - it is not to put them in women’s prisons and put women at risk of being the victims of male violence. 
 

There is no evidence that medical transition fundamentally alters the male pattern criminality I describe above, and which I regard as fundamental to this. Medical transition cannot fully reverse the masculinisation of the brain that occurs during foetal development and puberty, and the available evidence we have suggests that post-transition trans women continue to behave like men. Hence why I believe trans women do not belong in female prisons and that other solutions must be found to protect them from V-coding and other forms of abuse. 

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2 hours ago, Thefox81 said:

I do all that. But you never know who theyre going to meet when leaving the house to getting home??? I give my kids 100% trust until they break it.

It is the parent that doesn't show your level of concern and care that I am critical of

Posted
25 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

It is the parent that doesn't show your level of concern and care that I am critical of

You aren't going to stop people from being bad parents. 

 

Doesn't mean good ones should potentially be punished for essentially something completely natural. 

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Posted
9 hours ago, Sampson said:

 

If you’re a parent, if you thought your 14 year old was going round their friends house to do homework but then they ended up having sex together, 

Ffs - homework at her house?  That’s what she really wanted?  I thought she just wanted my help with maths ………..

Posted
8 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

Not especially. Mind it was a long time ago. 

It's weird how some people seem to think that it's impossible for 12-16 year olds not to be constantly shagging all the time.

 

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Back in my day kids were out all day from dawn to dusk playing footy and probably getting up to mischief like trespassing, scrumping, trainspotting/cabbing. As for sex it never seriously crossed my mind at 14.

 

Maybe I was just naïve, my sexual education of women was developed a little later on from toilet walls where there was some very defined drawings of women plus a lot of homosexual drawings and messages. Mind you quite conflicting when you've seen this on the toilet wall at junior school

 

Put a penny in the slot

To see what Marilyn Monroe's got

Two big tits and a hairy cock

That's what Marilyn Monroe's got lol

 

 

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