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It seems the footballing authorities will be imposing a new rule affecting all goalkeepers from this Summer.

 

It means they will only be allowed 8 seconds from catching the ball to releasing it to cut out so-called time-wasting.

 

I thought the referee already had in his power to book any player who he considers his time=wasting?

 

You only have to look at all the rule changes over the past 50 years which have affected this crucial position to realise it is nothing short of vilification. 

Posted
15 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I thought it was 6 seconds already. But just never enforced. 

Maybe, but this a new ruling to be implemented.

Posted
41 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I thought it was 6 seconds already. But just never enforced. 

AS are quite a few others.

 

They don't need a lot of new ones just enforce the ones they've got especially the one where players stop a quick free kick from being taken.

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38 minutes ago, davieG said:

AS are quite a few others.

 

They don't need a lot of new ones just enforce the ones they've got especially the one where players stop a quick free kick from being taken.

Yes this new rule will just be like others, enforced for the first couple of game weeks and then forgotten about and rarely enforced, like the one you have mentioned about free kicks, the other one often forgotten is the player not having to leave the pitch after treatment if the opponent gets booked for the challenge 

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Quite like the idea actually. But as per every semi sensible idea it won't make it past a month.

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Posted
3 hours ago, David Hankey said:

Maybe, but this a new ruling to be implemented.

I get that but why not enforce the current ruling instead of creating a new one? 

Posted
1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

Need to do something about keepers wasting time at goal kicks.

 

And hand out yellow cards for prolonged goal celebrations.

Agreed, the power to do this is already in the remit of the referee and, therefore, there is no actual need for change.

 

Again it is a case of those in their ivory towers justifying their existence, nothing more nothing less.

Posted
11 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

Agreed, the power to do this is already in the remit of the referee and, therefore, there is no actual need for change.

 

Again it is a case of those in their ivory towers justifying their existence, nothing more nothing less.

It's always felt that officials play a leading role in the time wasting panto. They are often as guilty as the players.

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3 hours ago, Spudulike said:

Need to do something about keepers wasting time at goal kicks.

 

And hand out yellow cards for prolonged goal celebrations.

Simple... set a time limit after which the restart happens even if the scorer and mates are on the sidelines celebrating

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Spudulike said:

Need to do something about keepers wasting time at goal kicks.

 

And hand out yellow cards for prolonged goal celebrations.

They won’t because players , clubs and pundits will kick off that they got punished and someone else wasn’t as different refs might judge this in their own way .

Will there be leeway if the keeper is just getting his breath back or something?

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The current law isn't administered because it's a nightmare to manage and not fit for purpose. An indirect free kick on the very edge of the box which is likely to have most of the 20 outfield players becomes a massive potential for further incidents, especially when the defending team are all likely to be stood just out of and in the 6yard box. The actual judgement of the 6 seconds is rather simple in theory but when you have attacking players who run across keepers who are looking to release and teams that are trying to get into position, or a position that wouldn't compromise them turning the ball over to the opposition it again isn't as simple as a flat 6 seconds, especially when with the consequence of an indirect free kick which an attacking team has a high chance of scoring.

 

The final bit is that players rarely complain and they are the ones officials have to manage throughout a game and try and keep on side. The ruling mainly annoys the fans but unless it's really taking the piss, and arguably that's where the law should be used, most players are happy for the extra breather and opportunity to get back in position.

 

The new law will be interesting to see, I know a number of officials that have used it in academy games and as always you have keepers releasing it right at the last second, which then causes an argument of when did the keeper exactly take control of the ball, did the ref count the 8 seconds or run if off their watch etc, it just becomes another thing for everyone to scrutinise, but a corner is a safer option and easier to manage than the previous indirect freekick.

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7 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Simple... set a time limit after which the restart happens even if the scorer and mates are on the sidelines celebrating

I've always quite like this idea. You don't want to totally kill celebrating but it goes on way too long. In sports like Handball there is no time at all to celebrate, the game restarts more or less instantly. Wouldn't want to go that far, but as you say maybe 30 - 45 seconds after a goal the conceeding team can restart the match even if the scoring team haven't finished celebrating.

 

 

Posted
8 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Simple... set a time limit after which the restart happens even if the scorer and mates are on the sidelines celebrating

 

1 hour ago, stripeyfox said:

I've always quite like this idea. You don't want to totally kill celebrating but it goes on way too long. In sports like Handball there is no time at all to celebrate, the game restarts more or less instantly. Wouldn't want to go that far, but as you say maybe 30 - 45 seconds after a goal the conceeding team can restart the match even if the scoring team haven't finished celebrating.

 

 

So many times we see the goal scorer being allowed to delay the restart as he casually walks back as everyone waits. It's almost an unwritten rule that it's part of the reward to receive individual adulation. Not always seen by the armchair viewers as they are being treated to endless replays. Perhaps that's the reason, all stage managed for the broadcasters.

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16 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

 

So many times we see the goal scorer being allowed to delay the restart as he casually walks back as everyone waits. It's almost an unwritten rule that it's part of the reward to receive individual adulation. Not always seen by the armchair viewers as they are being treated to endless replays. Perhaps that's the reason, all stage managed for the broadcasters.

That is 100% the reason. The last thing TV companies want is quick re-starts. Next time you watch a game keep an eye on how much is actually missed because of replays. This season we have had a throw or a goal kick and before it goes back 'live' the opposistion have the ball - Now that probably shows how rubbish we have been. 

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Yeah, it'll be enforced strictly in August. There will be outcry from fans, pundits, press, managers etc and then they'll forget about it by the time the first international break is over... at which point fans, pundits, press, managers etc will complain it's not being enforced.

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