Forest 2-2 LCFC, post-match thread

[Craig]

5 minutes ago, jv1 said:

We shouldnt be shouting to much - they are only doing why we did 2 years in a row - bottling it big time - and we also can’t call out anyone when we have been as crap as we have this year - i think we should be a good bit more humble 

no  

[Claudio Fannieri]

First 65 was pretty poor but last 25 or so was something else and should be the blue print of how we play moving forward, loved it 

[FrankieADZ]

thought Monga looked decent again when he came on, its a shame RVN hasnt got the balls to start the lad

 

[Noahfence]

The best thing in football is seeing your own team do well. A very close second best thing is laughing at your rivals. I’m ****ing thrilled we’ve ballsed it up for them. 
 

 

[Noahfence]

1 minute ago, FrankieADZ said:

thought Monga looked decent again when he came on, its a shame RVN hasnt got the balls to start the lad

 

I reckon he will against Ipswich. Unless there’s some agreement he can only come off the bench  (I doubt there is) 

[Guest Bilo]

51 minutes ago, Bert said:

Especially when you consider that teams are going to come in for their better players, even more so if they can offer them something that Forest can’t…. 

Not to mention PSR. They must be sailing close to the wind with that. Rumours suggest they need either UCL money or a fire sale to comply.

[GingerrrFox]

“Speed kills”.

 

There’s a quote for you. I personally think the reason we’ve gone down this season is not enough pace and agility in key areas. Fatawu got injured, Pereira being unavailable for majority share of it, Vardy not got the athleticism of his prime. You look at today and we really bothered them 2nd half with McAteer, Buonanotte, Bilal and Monga. Part of the reason those red shit have been on song this year is they’ve played into Wood as the big man and fed Elanga and Hudson-Odoi who are both rapid. You have to find where you are strong and have athletes to kill teams at speed. We did it last season under Enzo, he drilled a group of players into being comfortable with playing a style of football that they could then go and play at speed and we used Fatawu/Mavididi/KDH to go and kill teams in certain areas of the pitch. 
 

Soumare was frustratingly good today, he suits coming on in games that have broken open and have gone a bit basketball. (Probably the most infuriating player of recent times, he can be anything from a 3/10 to a 7/10.)

 

If this team has that performance in them, there are no excuses about going down, you can blame the manager situation etc but if you really fancy it as a group of men and you’ve got something about you, you have personal pride and fight for it. Mixed feelings tonight, glad to go and crash the party but equally this season has just been a complete waste from piss poor recruitment and planning. 

Edited 11 May 2025 by GingerrrFox

[Tommy Fresh]

3 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Not to mention PSR. They must be sailing close to the wind with that. Rumours suggest they need either UCL money or a fire sale to comply.

Issue is they seem willing to deals with other clubs cutting it close. Also they could easily flog one or two to Olympiakos.

[Tommy Fresh]

Thought McAteer looked better on the left where he can cut inside on his right

[Guest Bilo]

3 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Issue is they seem willing to deals with other clubs cutting it close. Also they could easily flog one or two to Olympiakos.

Wouldn't be surprised to see the odd moody exchange between them and Villa, for example. 

 

But they were on the smooth end this season with Anderson. It wouldn't take much for them to have to swap, say, Elanga with an absolute dud. Especially given that Newcastle and Villa will have UCL money and they won't.

 

As for Olympiakos, how doable is that? Why, for example, could we not just knock out Vestegaard to Leuven for £30m? 

[Tommy Fresh]

Just now, Bilo said:

Wouldn't be surprised to see the odd moody exchange between them and Villa, for example. 

 

But they were on the smooth end this season with Anderson. It wouldn't take much for them to have to swap, say, Elanga with an absolute dud. Especially given that Newcastle and Villa will have UCL money and they won't.

 

As for Olympiakos, how doable is that? Why, for example, could we not just knock out Vestegaard to Leuven for £30m? 

It's doable in the sense of moving a player on at their 'actual' value who would perhaps have no interest otherwise

[HighPeakFox]

16 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

thought Monga looked decent again when he came on, its a shame RVN hasnt got the balls to start the lad

 

I was listening to Chris Powell on this, and there may well be an issue with starting him whilst still at school mid-GCSEs.

 

On another note, the presenter on that same podcast keeps going on about damp squids. FFS.

[Guest Bilo]

2 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

It's doable in the sense of moving a player on at their 'actual' value who would perhaps have no interest otherwise

That then raises the issue of the fact that few outside their XI + VII have any real value. They aren't going to reset PSR with the actual value of Hennessy and Toffolo, so that then leaves them dependent on selling their mains. There seems to be a huge gap between their matchday squad and fringe players. Very little depth.

[tylesta]

49 minutes ago, jv1 said:

We shouldnt be shouting to much - they are only doing why we did 2 years in a row - bottling it big time - and we also can’t call out anyone when we have been as crap as we have this year - i think we should be a good bit more humble 

I'd hate to party with you. 

[bovril]

I refuse to jinx it right now. If Forest do indeed miss out by 2 points or fewer, I will celebrate that result long into the night. 

[Tommy Fresh]

Just now, Bilo said:

That then raises the issue of the fact that few outside their XI + VII have any real value. They aren't going to reset PSR with the actual value of Hennessy and Toffolo, so that then leaves them dependent on selling their mains. There seems to be a huge gap between their matchday squad and fringe players. Very little depth.

Could use it to clear out some wages, but even someone like Sosa who hasn't played a lot, you could see believably move for 20+ million. Also comes down to how much they actually care about PSR 

[99.1% BLUE]

5 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

I was listening to Chris Powell on this, and there may well be an issue with starting him whilst still at school mid-GCSEs.

 

On another note, the presenter on that same podcast keeps going on about damp squids. FFS.

He’s not said damp squib again has he? Someone ought to tell him. 🤣

 

Thought I misheard it the first time, but no, I heard right. 

[Tommy Fresh]

50 minutes ago, jv1 said:

We shouldnt be shouting to much - they are only doing why we did 2 years in a row - bottling it big time - and we also can’t call out anyone when we have been as crap as we have this year - i think we should be a good bit more humble 

They've got more spots to qualify though...

[Guest Bilo]

1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Could use it to clear out some wages, but even someone like Sosa who hasn't played a lot, you could see believably move for 20+ million. Also comes down to how much they actually care about PSR 

This is where you wonder if the Premier League would have a backbone and see how well the rules are written. If a club regularly comes close to breaching or repeatedly actually does breach, would subsequent deductions be harsher? For example, a 4 point deduction for the first breach and a larger one of, say, 6-8 for the second etc? 

 

Going way over the limits every season,knowing you'll only get a 2-4 points deduction, would just make a mockery of it, surely? 

[Guest Bilo]

3 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

They've got more spots to qualify though...

Yep. We wouldn't have even be sweating on qualification in 2020 and 2021 with five qualification spots. 

 

We'd have had back-to-back UCL qualifications, with all that money, and an FA Cup to back it up. The prestige alone would have been a massive draw to far better players and, once it went sour with Rodgers, managers as well.

[Ian Nacho]

Special mention to the referee today. He was atrocious. 

[Clogger_]

Hahahaha this was their s***y cup final. We turned up and f****d it for them. First time this year I've felt proud of us.

 

I hate them like they hate us. Anyone who doubts this doesn't know many Forest

[OntarioFox]

@Bilo I hope you're having a lovely evening, by the way.

 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

34 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Not to mention PSR. They must be sailing close to the wind with that. Rumours suggest they need either UCL money or a fire sale to comply.

🙏 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

7 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Yep. We wouldn't have even be sweating on qualification in 2020 and 2021 with five qualification spots. 

 

We'd have had back-to-back UCL qualifications, with all that money, and an FA Cup to back it up. The prestige alone would have been a massive draw to far better players and, once it went sour with Rodgers, managers as well.

Or more money to have been mismanaged by the circus