General News Thread

[Kisnorbo fox]

2 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

You wouldn't support a fair asylum system at all. The people I regard as far right make it clear that their chief annoyance is cultural takeover - they aren't bothered about Ukrainian refugees, it's Asian and African refugees they don't like, particularly Muslims. There's no system of asylum that you would like if it involved those people.

You really are a radical left wing nut job, who like many others would like nothing better than the traditional British communities to be over run by third world migrants whose religious ideology’s and moral compass has no place in the western world. I guess living in Cornwall you have an abundance of the fair asylum you speak of ? 

[BKLFox]

5 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

You know, if you took all Muslims in the UK they'd make the 2nd largest (and by some margin), Poles would be 8th (would have been 4th a few years back - I guess Poland has better benefits now), Romanians not far behind and Italians about the size of Leicester.

 

However, these people don't all live in one big lump, they're all through our community. Likewise, new immigrants (legal or otherwise) are dispersed across the nation.

 

In short, I don't see you point. 

 

Do you feel overwhelmed by Italians?

My point is, every 5yrs and at the rate it’s going, 4yrs, the equivalent of a town the size of the 36th largest in the UK & there are over 2000 towns, enters illegally & most being male will stay in 1 way or other.

Now take that number and then just double it as they bring partners over forgetting for the minute kids and extended family, with 1 double jump you’re now in city territory Cardiff, Stoke just short of Leicester & remember these have come in illegally on fake perhaps documents? we really don’t know who they are & as I say this is only assuming they claim a single family member.

 

Dress me up as a far right loon all you want but I don’t believe The UK has the real estate, infrastructure or resources to fully vet these illegal numbers every 5/4yrs, you obviously do and that’s great for you.

 

 

[splinterdream]

2 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

You wouldn't support a fair asylum system at all. The people I regard as far right make it clear that their chief annoyance is cultural takeover - they aren't bothered about Ukrainian refugees, it's Asian and African refugees they don't like, particularly Muslims. There's no system of asylum that you would like if it involved those people.

It has nothing to do with ethnicity,/skin colour it's the level of crisis, and it being women and children, and the likelihood they'll go back. If it was a situation like Rwanda, i'm absolutely positive those protesting migrants in hotels would be perfectly accepting of giving asylum to women, children and the elderly, but thats not the situation is it? Ukraine is however a war zone, and it's very likely those asylum seekers will go back 

[splinterdream]

2 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

About 49% are on benefits. But benefits are good for the economy so it doesn't hurt anybody particularly. Tbh I don't have a problem with you thinking 49% is too high, as it is much higher than the general population (19%) but I wish you were expressing the same annoyance at the ultra rich who are taking the wealth of the nation for themselves.

I have no problem with those who have made money, I would however abolish the monarchy and have a maximum cap of inheritance per person of say £1m (not including business) as long as it was legally ring fenced to provide a decent state pension, and funded education for adults. I would with this abolish any inheritance below that.

[splinterdream]

3 hours ago, Kisnorbo fox said:

Unfortunately you’re debating with a member of the looney left. Nothing rational will come back the other way. 

I'll keep trying. It's the right thing to keep trying, hopefully one of us will understand each others viewpoint.

[splinterdream]

21 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

My point is, every 5yrs and at the rate it’s going, 4yrs, the equivalent of a town the size of the 36th largest in the UK & there are over 2000 towns, enters illegally & most being male will stay in 1 way or other.

Now take that number and then just double it as they bring partners over forgetting for the minute kids and extended family, with 1 double jump you’re now in city territory Cardiff, Stoke just short of Leicester & remember these have come in illegally on fake perhaps documents? we really don’t know who they are & as I say this is only assuming they claim a single family member.

 

Dress me up as a far right loon all you want but I don’t believe The UK has the real estate, infrastructure or resources to fully vet these illegal numbers every 5/4yrs, you obviously do and that’s great for you.

 

 

Islamism in politics is a huge worry. Religion in politics is not a good mix, we saw the Christian lib dem leader crumble under scrutiny, we need to understand religious doctrine comes 1st for these people, the interest of British people below that, and that is not good 

[leicsmac]

13 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I'll keep trying. It's the right thing to keep trying, hopefully one of us will understand each others viewpoint.

 

On 29/12/2025 at 13:32, leicsmac said:

I'm more inclined to think that belief in cultural supremacy tends to go from that to rather horrible ethnic cleansing and history clearly shows it not only goes there often it often goes there fast. Whichever "culture" is doing it tends to be mostly irrelevant. 

 

Total cultural egalitarianism is likely a fools errand, but if it's a choice between making the effort there and the alternative above...

Then if you or any other luminary have the time and inclination to actually talk consequences and the responsibility for them...

[splinterdream]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

 

Then if you or any other luminary have the time and inclination to actually talk consequences and the responsibility for them...

Consequences of what? 

Most people like me have just wanted governments to prioritise British people and British values and culture, they aren't interested in ism's which the left seem obsessed with. 

They're fine with immigration, but managed and only when beneficial to the betterment of the British people, that means people who can support themselves, can speak english well, and will work without claiming benefits.

Governments should supply housing for those that need it, health care, cheap energy, welfare as a safety net, everybody should be treated equally under the law, and people employed by merit and not skin colour. 

Consequences are when tensions are ratchet up by the electorate ignored or when you have 2 tiers whether it be justice or priority with jobs, housing etc 

[CornwallFox]

3 hours ago, Zear0 said:

I've always been a bit confused by your constant assertion that benefits are good for the economy. There's arguments for wealth distribution, but not for economic incentives. 

 

It increases inflation, disincentivies people into work reducing productivity and earned value, is money not spent on infrastructure and for benefits for migrants, is sent to families abroad.

 

Not against more wealth distribution, but this constant assertion it's economically beneficial just isn't right. 

Benefits have no real impact on inflation given how scant they are. 

 

I'm unconvinced about it being a disincentive into work. Don't get me wrong, a very small % of people choose not to ever really work, but they'd be dealing out whatever other nonsense they get up to instead anyway. The idea huge numbers aren't working because they can get just enough to cover a grotty house in a grotty bit of town is rubbish tbh. The vast majority on benefits are working, disabled, carers, elderly, or have some other good reason. 

 

It's a positive because every penny (apart potentially for benefits to cover rent) go into the real economy and support businesses up and down the country. From a purely economic point of view, yes those people might not be adding to gdp, but tbh that's a bit of a false way of worrying about the economy given that ever smaller fractions of GDP reach the real economy thanks to late stage capitalism. Ultimately the economy needs liquidity and people that don't save or store money or assets. 

[CornwallFox]

1 hour ago, Kisnorbo fox said:

You really are a radical left wing nut job, who like many others would like nothing better than the traditional British communities to be over run by third world migrants whose religious ideology’s and moral compass has no place in the western world. I guess living in Cornwall you have an abundance of the fair asylum you speak of ? 

Where on earth do you get the idea I want to see local culture overwritten? I don't at all. And nor do many others. I'm quite happy with Britain being Britain, the difference between me and those further to the right is that I'm not one of life's victims, determined to believe that my way of life is about to be overturned by a few foreign people. Granted, it is now than a few and I would actually agree we need to get a handle on sensible numbers, but the idea people are coming in and our way of life is threatened? Rubbish. The right at the moment are a bunch of cry babies who play victim at every opportunity - see the nonsense about Xmas trees as an example, for about the 25th year running. 

[leicsmac]

9 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

Consequences of what? 

Most people like me have just wanted governments to prioritise British people and British values and culture, they aren't interested in ism's which the left seem obsessed with. 

They're fine with immigration, but managed and only when beneficial to the betterment of the British people, that means people who can support themselves, can speak english well, and will work without claiming benefits.

Governments should supply housing for those that need it, health care, cheap energy, welfare as a safety net, everybody should be treated equally under the law, and people employed by merit and not skin colour. 

Consequences are when tensions are ratchet up by the electorate ignored or when you have 2 tiers whether it be justice or priority with jobs, housing etc 

As I have mentioned a few times before, the consequences of abandoning a great many people to their fate, which appears to be, in ignorance or not, whether people want to speak of it or not, an option that is being led to.

 

As per before:

 

On 04/11/2025 at 19:25, leicsmac said:

global problems sometimes transcend national ones, sometimes the two are intertwined, and that while first and foremost a nation should look after its own citizens, doing that in every circumstance doesn't tend to end well. 

 

Edit: again, though, that approach guarantees the suffering and death of a great many people who just don't happen to be British. How well that sits clearly is up to the beholder, but I'd rather people have the stones to regardless admit that is the case and that's the choice they make.

 

[CornwallFox]

1 hour ago, splinterdream said:

It has nothing to do with ethnicity,/skin colour it's the level of crisis, and it being women and children, and the likelihood they'll go back. If it was a situation like Rwanda, i'm absolutely positive those protesting migrants in hotels would be perfectly accepting of giving asylum to women, children and the elderly, but thats not the situation is it? Ukraine is however a war zone, and it's very likely those asylum seekers will go back 

Even if I believe that it isn't an issue for you, all I have to do is read the comments under any express, mail or telegraph article on immigration to know that ethnicity, race,  religion and skin colour are most definitely an issue for many in this country. 

[CornwallFox]

1 hour ago, splinterdream said:

I have no problem with those who have made money, I would however abolish the monarchy and have a maximum cap of inheritance per person of say £1m (not including business) as long as it was legally ring fenced to provide a decent state pension, and funded education for adults. I would with this abolish any inheritance below that.

When it comes to the ultra rich or isn't about 'making money' in the traditional sense. 

 

So it helps clarify things for you, I'm pretty left wing, but I don't mind people being rich. I don't believe everybody should earn the same. If you have a great idea and start a business that succeeds, I'm happy for you to get filthy rich. I do expect you to accept taxes and to pay your staff fairly, given they're helping you get rich, so benefits shouldn't have to pick up the tab for poor wages, as it currently does.

 

But with the ultra rich, they don't make their money as employers any more. People don't seem to understand this. Money makes money, at the expense of everybody else. The rules of the game are no longer what they once were. The share is national productivity going to workers has fallen rapidly Vs the share going to the wealthy. They're should be fairness. Yes let people get rich, but also make sure workers see a fair slice of the action, which is no longer happening.

 

 

[leicsmac]

6 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Even if I believe that it isn't an issue for you, all I have to do is read the comments under any express, mail or telegraph article on immigration to know that ethnicity, race,  religion and skin colour are most definitely an issue for many in this country. 

At a fundamental level, I think it comes down to simple tribal self interest and how a person actually values the life of another being that they don't rely upon and so have no reason to treat well.

 

It would be nice if as a species we might one day at like more than bacteria with suits and spaceships, knowing no better and being no better. 

[Super_horns]

So sad and tragic .

Poor guy losing his family just like that in front of him .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg13333lvko

[leicsmac]

9 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

So sad and tragic .

Poor guy losing his family just like that in front of him .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg13333lvko

I honestly don't know how you ever get close to feeling whole again - ever - after having something like that happen to you. The depth of grief must be...well, inconceivable. 

 

Poor man. 

Edited 31 December 2025 by leicsmac

[Kisnorbo fox]

1 hour ago, CornwallFox said:

Where on earth do you get the idea I want to see local culture overwritten? I don't at all. And nor do many others. I'm quite happy with Britain being Britain, the difference between me and those further to the right is that I'm not one of life's victims, determined to believe that my way of life is about to be overturned by a few foreign people. Granted, it is now than a few and I would actually agree we need to get a handle on sensible numbers, but the idea people are coming in and our way of life is threatened? Rubbish. The right at the moment are a bunch of cry babies who play victim at every opportunity - see the nonsense about Xmas trees as an example, for about the 25th year running. 

I suppose living in Cornwall you wouldn’t really notice ! Try taking a trip to Leicester, Bradford, Birmingham, Rotherham, Rochdale, Bolton, Luton, Telford to name a few and I’m sure you would understand why quite a high percentage of the British public are taking the stance they do. I’d like you to call the members of the British public who have felt the consequences of Pakistani grooming gangs and third world cultures who believe in 1st cousin marriages, forced (arranged marriages) and have no interests in integrating into the western world as right wing cry babies ! 

Edited 31 December 2025 by Kisnorbo fox

[CornwallFox]

2 minutes ago, Kisnorbo fox said:

I suppose living in Cornwall you wouldn’t really notice ! Try taking a trip to Leicester, Bradford, Birmingham, Rotherham, Rochdale, Bolton, Luton, Telford to name a few and I’m sure you would understand why quite a high percentage of the British public are taking the stance they do. I’d like you to call the members of the British public who have felt the consequences of Pakistani grooming gangs and third world cultures who believe in 1st cousin marriages, forced (arranged marriages) and have no interests in integrating into the western world as right wing cry babies !

I moved to Cornwall from Leicester in the last few months. 

A high percentage of Brits are life's victims, that's why they take the stance they do. 

Unhappy with your own life? Easier to blame somebody else than wonder what you did wrong. 

Honestly don't want to hear it, so bored of reading this sort of absolute bilge. 

Feel free not to respond to me.

[Kisnorbo fox]

4 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

I moved to Cornwall from Leicester in the last few months. 

A high percentage of Brits are life's victims, that's why they take the stance they do. 

Unhappy with your own life? Easier to blame somebody else than wonder what you did wrong. 

Honestly don't want to hear it, so bored of reading this sort of absolute bilge. 

Feel free not to respond to me.

I’m happy with my own life now I’ve moved away from Leicester, to a traditional British village where you can call a spade a spade without being forced fed multicultural ideas that will never work ! I’m sure the high percentage of brits feel like life’s victims because they are being forced to accept a cultural take over in there city’s of third world countries ! And if you dare state the obvious your are branded as a “far right “ ! When actually you only want your country to be a traditional country that our ancestors fought for 🇬🇧 

Edited 31 December 2025 by Kisnorbo fox

[CornwallFox]

52 minutes ago, Kisnorbo fox said:

I’m happy with my own life now I’ve moved away from Leicester, to a traditional British village where you can call a spade a spade without being forced fed multicultural ideas that will never work ! I’m sure the high percentage of brits feel like life’s victims because they are being forced to accept a cultural take over in there city’s of third world countries ! And if you dare state the obvious your are branded as a “far right “ ! When actually you only want your country to be a traditional country that our ancestors fought for 🇬🇧 

Honestly think we should probably not continue this conversation as, tbh, you sound like a raving lunatic. 

Let's agree to disagree.

[bovril]

The Cornish have long resisted cultural takeover by English invaders

[leicsmac]

I have to be honest, the whole idea of cultural chauvinism (as opposed to cultural coexistence) is really absurd to me, simply because it very often ends in people counting bodies by the truckload when one demographic has the power to do it, no matter which "culture" doing the chauvinism and no matter how much people feel warm fuzziness about "their" culture. 

 

It ends with division, which gives you conflict, which gives you suffering.  

 

Really not sure how folks square the idea of that away with themselves that makes them feel in any way good about it. 

 

Guys, we're all human. 

[Robo61]

8 hours ago, Kisnorbo fox said:

I suppose living in Cornwall you wouldn’t really notice ! Try taking a trip to Leicester, Bradford, Birmingham, Rotherham, Rochdale, Bolton, Luton, Telford to name a few and I’m sure you would understand why quite a high percentage of the British public are taking the stance they do. 

What absolute rubbish,  many surveys have concluded that the people of cities populated by many from different backgrounds have far less of a problem with multi culturism than area's dominated by white British.  You only have to see where Farage gets his votes to see that ,  those that don't come into contact with ethnic minorities that are frightened of the unfamilier it seems.   

[StanSP]

8 hours ago, Kisnorbo fox said:

I’m sure the high percentage of brits feel like life’s victims because they are being forced to accept a cultural take over in there city’s of third world countries !

'forced to accept'. 

 

Nope. 

 

8 hours ago, Kisnorbo fox said:

And if you dare state the obvious your are branded as a “far right “

Doesn't like being called 'far right' but happy to call others 'looney left'. Such a snowflake. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

Culture defenders, don't worry

We have no taste for curry

No, keep it dower

We don't want sweet AND sour

Cos roast beef is all that you need.

 

We want a white, English hero,

Not the invention of zero

And we'll live in houses in rows

Instead of quaint bungalows 

Cos foreigners are too much to feed.

 

We invented sports for all

Rugby, cricket, tennis, football

Now we don't compete, we cus

That other countries are better than us

This country has all gone to seed.

 

Keep England pure, free from the others

Not even the Scots are sisters or brothers 

They come here for free money 

Even though it's not sunny

Just don't allow them to breed.

 

No EPL title, with Thais not allowed 

Just more seasons spent under a cloud

No Kaamark, no Mahrez, the silky smooth weaver

No Heskey, no Huth, no FA cup win either.

Who cares if we ever succeed?

 

 

 

The above does not necessarily represent the views of the author.

 

 

 

 

Edited 31 December 2025 by Trav Le Bleu