I know ability comes into it but the biggest thing I fear this season is...

[LCFCJohn]

22 minutes ago, Sly said:

Put it into perspective though.

 

You yourself are in a job that is paying you £500k per annum.

 

In reality, you know you could only move jobs and maybe pick up £200k per annum.

 

Your mortgage, lifestyle etc are built around the £500k per annum.

 

Do you stay for 2 years picking up the extra £300k, or leave as it’s a little bit toxic?

 

Not everyone will answer that question, the same way. 

 

If you are unhappy where you are, yes, move on and adapt your life style accordingly. For anybody, having costs up to your income is bad financial planning. With the exception of people on minimum wage or close who haven’t got the luxury of saving. So if they are spending all they are getting, they are f***ed anyway!

 

As I have mentioned above, I have done this myself when I was unhappy in my role and made changes accordingly to allow for this so I say this without any hypocrisy at play.

Edited 15 August 2025 by LCFCJohn

[lcfc sheff]

12 hours ago, StanSP said:

Presume he means the culture of having everything but not earning it. 

 

The facilities are immense in quality, but the players who get to experience it haven't exactly got the success to fall back on to enjoy it. 

 

The plus of Seagrave is that it's clearly had an impact on the youth that is coming through... 

This is silly and honestly can’t see how it would be the problem, would it be better if they trained on a rocky quicksand-infested pitch with a hut made of mud to get changed in? 
 

like in any line of work, the better equipment or facilities will produce better outputs. It’s such a “Yer da” comment which is fuelled by the current disconnect between the players and fans. The recruitment has been shit not the training ground (as can clearly be seen with the youth coming through as you mentioned)

[lcfc sheff]

11 hours ago, Spudulike said:

The OP was talking about over inflated ego's, players not trying, thinking they are too good to be here. It's been discussed over and over that a laissez-faire attitude seems to originate from Seagrave. Even the players have mentioned it. All that money spent and very little to show at the sharp end.

What player has mentioned it? The players do try, I just think sadly we’ve got a squad that is in the middle of the championship and premier league level (which is reflected in our finishing positions in the last 3 seasons) 

 

blame the recruitment, certainly not the training ground that is producing some of our most promising players!

[Winstonthedog]

5 hours ago, sylofox said:

It's nothing to to with Seagrave. Attitude is down to the owner the board and previous managers. Having a spine is the problem.

 

Do you think senior pros would be like this under Pearson or jock Wallace?

 

No most of these limp dicks would never have been bought in the first place.

Spot on ... most modern day players are similar ... overpaid for under performance...  poor attitude... no passion or pride ... buying players requires not only their performance on the pitch but a check on personality... the club is months away from ridding itself of the bad apples ... and although we need to buy ... until the toxic players have gone it would be best not to buy

[sylofox]

11 minutes ago, Winstonthedog said:

Spot on ... most modern day players are similar ... overpaid for under performance...  poor attitude... no passion or pride ... buying players requires not only their performance on the pitch but a check on personality... the club is months away from ridding itself of the bad apples ... and although we need to buy ... until the toxic players have gone it would be best not to buy

I think we both agree. The problem I see is if Top and Rudkin are still here they will offer those players new contracts as it will be cheaper than buying new players.

 

Let the cycle commence.

[filbertway]

Winks has put in 2 good shifts after having to sit on the bench and watch Soumare and Skipp start ahead of him.

 

Not sure what people want from him

 

 

[Phil Mitchell]

King power are still here by the end of it. Phil

[Dr The Singh]

My libido

[tickler28]

10 hours ago, Sly said:

Page in all honesty. 

He's 16 years old! You can't rely on him for an entire season in a pivotal role at that age for a club our size

[Sly]

5 hours ago, tickler28 said:

He's 16 years old! You can't rely on him for an entire season in a pivotal role at that age for a club our size

You can’t rely on Soumare and Skipp either though 

 

7 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

If you are unhappy where you are, yes, move on and adapt your life style accordingly. For anybody, having costs up to your income is bad financial planning. With the exception of people on minimum wage or close who haven’t got the luxury of saving. So if they are spending all they are getting, they are f***ed anyway!

 

As I have mentioned above, I have done this myself when I was unhappy in my role and made changes accordingly to allow for this so I say this without any hypocrisy at play.

Everyone would answer this differently though. I don’t disagree on the long term financial stability part at all from my perspective. Unfortunately some people live beyond their means and I would say even have some naivety in terms of future expectations.
 

Not everyone will be as long term financially savvy. So they get themselves into a situation where they’ll have pushed themselves to the brink and won’t sacrifice lifestyle changes whilst they can still ride it out.
 

Plus let’s be honest, if you’re getting paid top dollar to go into Seagrave everyday, it’s not like you’re sweating it out training in the local park, dodging dog muck, or you’re in Eastern Europe / Brazil where Supporters have been known to invade  training facilities to make feelings know on poor performances. 

[STEVIE B]

16 hours ago, tickler28 said:

If we lose Soumare who replaces him in our current squad? Hearing people say Choudhury.....no no no no and no....he is a bombscare

Gladys the tea lady

The Birch

Vestergaard's dog

Mrs Vardy 

My Postman

 

He is far from irreplaceable. We should be able to find a player who can run, compete, think, track back & look like they care......all of which Soumare doesn't do. 

[LCFCJohn]

50 minutes ago, Sly said:

You can’t rely on Soumare and Skipp either though 

 

Everyone would answer this differently though. I don’t disagree on the long term financial stability part at all from my perspective. Unfortunately some people live beyond their means and I would say even have some naivety in terms of future expectations.
 

Not everyone will be as long term financially savvy. So they get themselves into a situation where they’ll have pushed themselves to the brink and won’t sacrifice lifestyle changes whilst they can still ride it out.
 

Plus let’s be honest, if you’re getting paid top dollar to go into Seagrave everyday, it’s not like you’re sweating it out training in the local park, dodging dog muck, or you’re in Eastern Europe / Brazil where Supporters have been known to invade  training facilities to make feelings know on poor performances. 

All fine yeah. First part is personal preference. I would prefer a good work/life balance and being happy. I certainly wouldn’t expect sympathy from anyone if I am unhappy in my job yet choose to stay.

 

In terms of the rest, all choices again. They are of course free to spend every last pound they receive on lavish lifestyle or choose to see out their contract.

 

My point was, we hear wording like they can’t move on due to their wages. Strictly not true at all as they could drop their demands. They are not trapped. Whatever the reason, through spending beyond their means, meaning they can’t take a lower wage, or choosing to stay because it’s an easy life, it’s a choice and I won’t feel bad for them like they are trapped.

 

On the spending beyond their means point also, none of them will get a contract like this again, so they will damn well need to learn to live on less, whether that is to expedite a move away that they so want or when they have to take a lower wage upon leaving us.

Edited 15 August 2025 by LCFCJohn

[ScotFox1]

I know ability comes into it but the biggest thing I fear this season is..

 

we have none 

[aklaxon]

For those wondering, it was Albrighton that said the new training ground had a negative effect. Think it was on the Ben Foster Podcast - great interview if you haven't heard it already.

 

But one thing he was alluding to was the culture change, simple stuff like having staff to clear your own dinner plates, extra trainers and masseuses to get spa treatments whenever they liked. Both him and Waghorn (on the club's podcast with Elliott and Taggart), have said the great thing about Leicester was how down-to-earth and roll-your-sleeves-up the club was at Belvoir Drive - that sort of stuff breeds togetherness.

 

Vestergaard probably never sees Faes during the week. JV's walking his dog around the golf course, and Wout's getting his perm done.