I know ability comes into it but the biggest thing I fear this season is...

[tickler28]

...players not trying. It's clear some think theyre to good to be here. Some over inflated egos about but unwilling to do anything about it cos nobody willing to pay them the stupid sums we do.

[Spudulike]

Seagrave.

[Winstonthedog]

Who is out of contract at the end of this long long season ??? 

[Grebfromgrebland]

relegation - its not out of the question

[Bezzanator89]

And not just the case of not trying, but also trudging around in a giant sulk like Winks. Don't care about the theatrics in the background, they still should be professional enough to do their job and play for the badge that is paying their weekly salary! 

[AyewJoking]

40 minutes ago, tickler28 said:

...players not trying. It's clear some think theyre to good to be here. Some over inflated egos about but unwilling to do anything about it cos nobody willing to pay them the stupid sums we do.

I remind anyone who thinks we piss the league that our squad has the spine of a jellyfish.

 

These bitches will roll over at the slightest pressure and go into a sulk, blaming the manager.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

We’ve bought the wrong characters for years and done everything wrong. Gone are the days when Pearson et al would buy young hungry players with a high ceiling, and he’d go out of his way to learn about their character. 
 

As soon as you start paying absolute donkeys a lot I also think they partly lose respect for their masters, and they don’t have to try really hard because they know they’ve reached their ceiling - and they don’t try. Then they run contracts down, because no one else is stupid enough to give them anywhere close what we do, and gradually become even more disinterested.

 

 

Edited 14 August 2025 by Wasyls Pec Deck

[lcfc sheff]

30 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Seagrave.

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[StanSP]

2 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said:

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Presume he means the culture of having everything but not earning it. 

 

The facilities are immense in quality, but the players who get to experience it haven't exactly got the success to fall back on to enjoy it. 

 

The plus of Seagrave is that it's clearly had an impact on the youth that is coming through... 

[Ric Flair]

51 minutes ago, tickler28 said:

...players not trying. It's clear some think theyre to good to be here. Some over inflated egos about but unwilling to do anything about it cos nobody willing to pay them the stupid sums we do.

The last time we had such volume of players with less than a year left we defied science and got relegated, its a valid fear given the toxic culture here.

[coolhandfox]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

The last time we had such volume of players with less than a year left we defied science and got relegated, its a valid fear given the toxic culture here.

Need to move more on, Thomas, JJ, Winks, Ayew, Ricardo, Daka and Soumare, should all be available.

 

 

[Claridge]

A little bit old fashioned and I am only half serious, but I would like to see Marti smash a few of those players into the middle of next week. He seems a bit to friendly

[Sol thewall Bamba]

36 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

relegation - its not out of the question

Put a bet on it and give the winnings (there won't be any) to LOROS.

[Lambert09]

20 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Need to move more on, Thomas, JJ, Winks, Ayew, Ricardo, Daka and Soumare, should all be available.

 

 

Luke and Ricardo have just about the best attitudes at the club. The least of our problems 

[Ric Flair]

22 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Need to move more on, Thomas, JJ, Winks, Ayew, Ricardo, Daka and Soumare, should all be available.

 

 

In principle I 100% agree but we are reaching a point now that we'd just leave no time to get any replacements given how we tend to operate.

 

I think we could afford to lose a few more but we need a few in as well and i'm unnerved by the lack of media reports on what we're up to, it all points towards zero incomings.

[john ridley]

There's no way these can't be arsed cretins are going to get us promoted,it's gonna take another 2 yrs for all these to be gone and we start again. Feel sorry for the manager what he's  been delt with ,third manger who can't get a tune out of these ****wits.The sooner Top etc  **** off the better ,the way they've ruined this club is heartbreaking. 

[john ridley]

48 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

relegation - its not out of the question

Very big possibility,people saying too good to go down,been there  before haven't  we .Why would all these players  care ?they're  going at the end of the season so why bother .

[Spudulike]

45 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said:

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The OP was talking about over inflated ego's, players not trying, thinking they are too good to be here. It's been discussed over and over that a laissez-faire attitude seems to originate from Seagrave. Even the players have mentioned it. All that money spent and very little to show at the sharp end.

[tickler28]

The young players we have need strong role models...players that care but sadly other than Fattawu, Ricardo, Mavididi and Jakub there are far to many bad examples of complacent (can't be arsed) players that won't help their progress 

[FLAN]

Being massively overpaid breeds a level of confidence way beyond their ability

Not the worst culprits but Hamza and Mavididi prime examples of bang average (if even that) players who’ve won the lottery here. What do they have to work hard for?  They’ve massively exceeded anything they could expect based on performance alone. There is no step up for these players. 
The squad is full of players who k ow they’re taken the absolute piss and as a result just waft through games likely thinking of what’s for dinner or what the next cat is. I despise the. Majority of the squad  

[FLAN]

Car. Not 🐱 😂

[whoareyaaa]

2 hours ago, tickler28 said:

...players not trying. It's clear some think theyre to good to be here. Some over inflated egos about but unwilling to do anything about it cos nobody willing to pay them the stupid sums we do.

100% Winks not celebrating is a disgrace tbh, it ok if he is capable in the league but if he is not playing with any kind of commitment, passion or whatever you want to call it in regards to the club then whats the point.

 

Same goes for Wout Faes, yea he may have got booed which is not really a good look for the fans but he knows the fans don't rate him, cups his ears which is fair play if you just got booed on the pitch but this in not the environment we want, everyone should be pushing in the same direction.

 

We are in a bit of a cross roads atm tbh, we need a squad of players who want to be here and win things together, going to be a long road for Marti at this rate.

 

Take a look at Bilal he is a perfect example, probably shouldn't be playing at this level but is still 100% committed and shows he cares, Same with Vesterguard tbf.

Edited 14 August 2025 by whoareyaaa

[Mike the Metal Ed]

5 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

100% Winks not celebrating is a disgrace tbh, it ok if he is capable in the league but if he is not playing with any kind of commitment, passion or whatever you want to call it in regards to the club then whats the point.

 

Same goes for Wout Faes, yea he may have got booed which is not really a good look for the fans but he knows the fans don't rate him, cups his ears which is fair play if you just got booed on the pitch but this in not the environment we want, everyone should be pushing in the same direction.

 

We are in a bit of a cross roads atm tbh, we need a squad of players who want to be here and win things together, going to be a long road for Marti at this rate.

Let them have their sulks for now. Get it out their system. If they even have goals to not celebrate then they're doing more than last season. 

 

Hopefully if we can get some results, after a few weeks the mood will start to feel lighter again.

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

In principle I 100% agree but we are reaching a point now that we'd just leave no time to get any replacements given how we tend to operate.

 

I think we could afford to lose a few more but we need a few in as well and i'm unnerved by the lack of media reports on what we're up to, it all points towards zero incomings.

 You could lose the like of Thomas and Soumare without batting eye.

[tickler28]

If we lose Soumare who replaces him in our current squad? Hearing people say Choudhury.....no no no no and no....he is a bombscare