Cifuentes OUT

[Richmondfox]

50 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

So lets say that you are correct in this.... 

 

No Ayew or Daka....   so that leaves us with Carranza.... he absolutely doesn't have it... 

 

Soumare or Skipp not in the Team...   so that leaves us with.....   Winks, James and Ramsay (which is what he was going with before Ramsay's injury)   Outside of that.... you are looking at Ricky or Hamza in the remaining Midfield slot... OR playing Winks / James.... but then who is our 10?  It can't be Ayew, because you don't want him starting games.... so it's Page? 

 

Thomas at LB.... the alternative is Kristiansen.... he might not be worse than Thomas, but how much of an upgrade is he? 

 

bearing in mind.... that if none of those are in the starting line up.... then our bench becomes: - 

 

Ayew, Daka, Soumare, Skipp, Faes, Thomas, Mavidi/Monga (Depending on who is starting on the left) Begovic, BDCR....

 

Now lets assume you don't want any of those players anywhere near the matchday SQUAD (because bringing them on doesn't improve the team) Our bench becomes something like....

 

Begovic, BDCR, Mavididi, Page, Aluko, Evans, Silko Thomas, Hutchinson?,......

 

Our squad is really paper thin on quality....

 

now, I don't necessarily rate the work that Marti is doing.... BUT..... it doesn't feel like there is masses of quality to work with... 

 

These players are all crap.  It’s the managers  job to stop them doing the things they are crap at and get them to do things positive to the team. 
 

How many times have we seen Ayew stop during a counter attack by slowing down, refusing to pass and then passing backwards? Ayew doing that last night was on the manager who enables him. 
 

He should have hooked the clown straight away as an example. 

Edited 5 November 2025 by Richmondfox

[Gwyn]

Just now, Pliskin said:

So you ignore my response and just continue to ask everyone else the same question 😂 this is the definitive of a complicit Leicester fan 😂

I missed it, hold on

[Donwebbio]

48 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

So lets say that you are correct in this.... 

 

No Ayew or Daka....   so that leaves us with Carranza.... he absolutely doesn't have it... 

 

Soumare or Skipp not in the Team...   so that leaves us with.....   Winks, James and Ramsay (which is what he was going with before Ramsay's injury)   Outside of that.... you are looking at Ricky or Hamza in the remaining Midfield slot... OR playing Winks / James.... but then who is our 10?  It can't be Ayew, because you don't want him starting games.... so it's Page? 

 

Thomas at LB.... the alternative is Kristiansen.... he might not be worse than Thomas, but how much of an upgrade is he? 

 

bearing in mind.... that if none of those are in the starting line up.... then our bench becomes: - 

 

Ayew, Daka, Soumare, Skipp, Faes, Thomas, Mavidi/Monga (Depending on who is starting on the left) Begovic, BDCR....

 

Now lets assume you don't want any of those players anywhere near the matchday SQUAD (because bringing them on doesn't improve the team) Our bench becomes something like....

 

Begovic, BDCR, Mavididi, Page, Aluko, Evans, Silko Thomas, Hutchinson?,......

 

Our squad is really paper thin on quality....

 

now, I don't necessarily rate the work that Marti is doing.... BUT..... it doesn't feel like there is masses of quality to work with... 

 

No he doesn't have masses of quality but he isn't helping himself with not javing clarity in his approach or line up. My personal opinion is that it is pointless sacking a manager until the structure of the club is sorted because we will just appoint another average manager or below average manager.

 

We could have got Corberan after Enzo left but baulked at the compensation fee of a few million and instead spent £25 million on Oliver Skipp & Ayew as well as the £10 million compensation to 2 subsequent managers. We are useless.

[Gwyn]

16 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

It’s got zero to do with superior knowledge….. it’s a general consensus on a topic that’s been hotly discussed on here for about 4 years……

 

What have Southampton, Swansea, Ipswich and Norwich got anything to do with it? Have any of those clubs had close to £600m pass through the club in the last decade? No…… did any of these clubs get a golden ticket winning the PL and gaining all of the financial rewards that come with that and competing in Europe?  No.

 

The clubs you should be quoting are Bournemouth, Brentford, Palace, Fulham and Brighton…… who are far more stable than we are, at half the size of us and bar palace with an FA cup win, haven’t had the success we have had….

 

You quote Blackburn? Completely different era of football, the money in the game then was nothing compared to today…..

 

So in short, the situation we’re in is like winning £200m on the lottery, and within a few years being homeless….

 

This has nothing to do with the clubs previous stature. And the solution is a boardroom of competent people who won’t make the same mistakes these clowns have.
 

As it has been said time and time again, we’re not in this position because we’re little Leicester City, we’re in the position because we have a completely incompetent board room, who’s negligence has completely destabilised and destroyed the club, and continue to do so. 
 

To conclude, Top needs to sell the club. 

So mediocrity is what you aspire to? I get it, you just want that PL status. 

West Ham won the FA cup way before us but since then have been a very average team, albeit PL status. They could go down this year but I bet their fan base would enjoy being a big fish in a small pond.

I suppose to you it's about telling your mates you went to Stamford Bridge and not Craven cottage. 

Then again I'm old school and saw Jock Wallace take us to the first division and jump ship, ala Maresca, Brian Little and that bloke who went to wolves, Mark Mcgee???

 

Man we just aren't an attractive club, even if we won the prem

[Sankey93]

Thread was hot got excited 😂

[The Doctor]

13 minutes ago, Gwyn said:

So how do you implement success in such a downward spiral?

arrest the downward spiral by implementing standards and enforcing them, rather than just saying "well the tigers are nearby" as if that's an impediment? We are a county of 1m people with one professional football team in it, having a rugby team nearby does not block us having success or building a big fan base. Hell, we had that and had the chance to capitalise on it just 5 years ago...

[Parker Pen]

The winning formula as manager this season as per the top 6 seems to be experienced British managers who have served their apprenticeships in the Championship!
 

All have a footballing plan, tactics and in game management learnt through repeatedly being hired and fired by the clubs chasing the Premier league dream.

 

Although he has managed to get QPR to 56 points in his last two seasons he doesn’t have any of these traits. He isn’t match fit and his team isnt either! We will do well to see 56 points at this rate and that is a borderline relegation total.

 

I know he isn’t the main problem but Sack him today as he is responsible for coaching and motivating that shower of shit from yesterday!  We are regressing match by match so the clowns at the Top need to act today!

[Gwyn]

Just now, The Doctor said:

arrest the downward spiral by implementing standards and enforcing them, rather than just saying "well the tigers are nearby" as if that's an impediment? We are a county of 1m people with one professional football team in it, having a rugby team nearby does not block us having success or building a big fan base. Hell, we had that and had the chance to capitalise on it just 5 years ago...

But we didn't

[The Doctor]

Just now, Gwyn said:

But we didn't

because the owner is a useless child entrusting the footballing operations of a medium to big club to a jumped up PE teacher

[Muzzy_no7]

It’s gonna linger on like RVN.

 

Top and Rudkin have to be the worst owner/Director combo in world football

[Gwyn]

Just now, The Doctor said:

because the owner is a useless child entrusting the footballing operations of a medium to big club to a jumped up PE teacher

So how can it get any better? Who do you think we should sell to? Who do you think would buy the club as a stable business?

Maybe the Glazners?

[BrilliantFox]

15 minutes ago, Gwyn said:

Who do you think we should sell to?

An owner with ambition and competence. Two traits our current owner does not have.

[Gwyn]

52 minutes ago, Freddy said:

Can see this as a fan watching us yo yo between the 1st and 2nd division and enjoying lcfc despite this

Thanks for the acknowledgement. I am that fan and will follow them until I Die regardless of our stature. Also I will forever cherish that beautiful 15/16 season, and know that almost wherever we play you can't sing that.

LTID 

[Gwyn]

Just now, BrilliantFox said:

An owner with ambition and competence. Two traits our current owner does not have.

I'd love to see the short list 

[Gwyn]

Just now, The Doctor said:

arrest the downward spiral by implementing standards and enforcing them, rather than just saying "well the tigers are nearby" as if that's an impediment? We are a county of 1m people with one professional football team in it, having a rugby team nearby does not block us having success or building a big fan base. Hell, we had that and had the chance to capitalise on it just 5 years ago...

Look at our attendance compared to Leeds last season, look at our atmosphere to Leeds last season. It's incomparable because they are considered foundation members. Also alot of people can't afford the tickets in Leicester

[dannythefox]

5 hours ago, The Doctor said:

clearly not or you'd be able to rebut anything. Dyche is as one dimensional as Cifuentes or any of the other crap we've had, and his one dimension is at odds with the squad we've built. thankfully it's immaterial, he's busy getting forest relegated for the foreseeable 

 

Forest won’t go down mate. Like I say he’s a decent manager who runs on limited funds. I’d take him in a heartbeat.

[RoboFox]

Constantly replies with "well, what would you do?" "who would you appoint?" "who should be our owner?"  as if listing every possible permutation somehow adds anything to the discussion. 

 

This is why it's barely worth even having the conversation in the first place. 

 

 

[RoboFox]

Honestly did someone leave a door open over at Bentley's Roof and they've all escaped over here?

[Number 6]

1 hour ago, Gwyn said:

So how do you implement success in such a downward spiral?

Surely the worst thing to do in this situation is nothing?

[The Doctor]

43 minutes ago, Gwyn said:

Look at our attendance compared to Leeds last season, look at our atmosphere to Leeds last season. It's incomparable because they are considered foundation members. Also alot of people can't afford the tickets in Leicester

our attendances are crap currently because we're playing shit, boring football that people don't want to watch? look at our attendances in the run up to COVID, or even under Enzo. There was clear scope to expand and a fan base ready to fill that expansion, we've trashed it because Aiyawatt and Rudkin have destroyed the club 

[CarolinaFox]

The Norwich game is now a must win for Marti to prove he can get a tune out of the players. If we tie or lose to Norwich he has to go. I’d be on the phone already to potential replacements, David Wagner being one of them. We need someone who knows how to win in this league. Forget the premier league right now, we need proven leadership. There is a lot of football left in this season. We can turn things around but a loss or tie to Norwich says to me that Marti isn’t the one who can do that. If as others have mentioned, promotion is the only way to save this clubs immediate future we have to be ruthless about finding someone who gives us a chance to get promoted. 

[K789]

3 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

our attendances are crap currently because we're playing shit, boring football that people don't want to watch? look at our attendances in the run up to COVID, or even under Enzo. There was clear scope to expand and a fan base ready to fill that expansion, we've trashed it because Aiyawatt and Rudkin have destroyed the club 

Im a long term sth, and I cant be bothered to watch this. I only live a mile away 

[Greg2607]

1 hour ago, Donwebbio said:

No he doesn't have masses of quality but he isn't helping himself with not javing clarity in his approach or line up. My personal opinion is that it is pointless sacking a manager until the structure of the club is sorted because we will just appoint another average manager or below average manager.

 

We could have got Corberan after Enzo left but baulked at the compensation fee of a few million and instead spent £25 million on Oliver Skipp & Ayew as well as the £10 million compensation to 2 subsequent managers. We are useless.

And I dont disagree with you.  Maybe he isn't getting his message across. But Ayews game is generally coming deep and bringing others I to play. 

 

If we are saying to him "don't do that, we won't you to stretch the line" then he isn't the right man for that job... Albeit, we don't have anyone else in the squad to do that either.   

 

It's the culmination of a club who haven't hired with any kind of plan in place. We have a Mish mash of squad, none of which are designed with one particular style of play in mind.  

 

It's a mess.  

 

I will say however, that in theory, Jordan and Ramsay were positive additions.  

[Pliskin]

1 hour ago, Gwyn said:

So mediocrity is what you aspire to? I get it, you just want that PL status. 

West Ham won the FA cup way before us but since then have been a very average team, albeit PL status. They could go down this year but I bet their fan base would enjoy being a big fish in a small pond.

I suppose to you it's about telling your mates you went to Stamford Bridge and not Craven cottage. 

Then again I'm old school and saw Jock Wallace take us to the first division and jump ship, ala Maresca, Brian Little and that bloke who went to wolves, Mark Mcgee???

 

Man we just aren't an attractive club, even if we won the prem

I mean, I mediocrity is being a stable premier league team, what on earth are we? So I don’t really understand the point you’re making there? 
 

West Ham are another club who are run badly, so it’s not really a good comparison. And I know a few West Ham fans and they certainly do not want to be in the championship…… who does, it’s a horrid league. 
 

it certainly isn’t…… I want my club to compete, and when it gets into a position of sheer advantage sustain it…… the fact you’re quoting the likes of Jock Wallace probably explains why you have the views you have…… this football club is not the same club you grew up supporting as a boy, and you’re badly mistaken thinking that we’re just a small fry unattractive proposition…… that’s ludicrous. 
 

 

What I can’t understand is how you can’t see this, how you can’t see what’s happened at the club? How can people not get that the success we had gave us an incredible platform to improve……  the only reason we didn’t is because of sheer negligence and poor management from Top and his board room. I just can’t drill home enough this fact, the fact we’ve essentially won the lottery and pissed it away…… 

 

And then you suggest Brighton and Bournemouth are mediocre? And in the same breath West Ham would be chuffed to be in the championship? I just don’t get it, it’s unfortunately one of the traits of some sections of the fanbase who are complicit in our demise, they just don’t get it or understand the gravity of the situation we’re in. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

We will have to wait for Aiyawatt to pick up Rudkin’s email. 
 

There is no club in the world, with the highest wage bill in any division who would happily continue with a manager who has 1 win in 10. Mix that 1 win in 10 with lack of creativity and questionable effort. There isn’t. With performances getting considerably worse by game.
 

We’ve just come off a backs against the wall, 1-1 draw, with less shots and possession v Boro. No disrespect to Boro and I could just about live with that away but that’s at home, where they had a man sent off and a questionable penalty against them. And our manager has come out and praised the effort. He can go **** himself. 
 

The only reason we continue with him is because Rudkin as DOF is not prepared in any way shape or form to recruit a replacement. He has no worthwhile contacts or leads, he’s been in job for years and built up nothing. He is kept in that job by a tiny little useless man, sacked by his mum for being incompetent. 
 

These two bastards need to be hated in this city for years. 

Edited 5 November 2025 by Mickyblueeyes