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Cifuentes OUT

By Bob Weasel Fox, in Leicester City Forum

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RowlattsFox

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I'd have more faith that Enzo could adapt slightly but there is no way Enzo would get this squad of players playing as well as a couple of seasons ago. 

To be fair, he struggled at times two years ago. 

HankMarvin

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2 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

I'd have more faith that Enzo could adapt slightly but there is no way Enzo would get this squad of players playing as well as a couple of seasons ago. 

To be fair, he struggled at times two years ago. 

There is struggling for the odd result or run of form and there is being shit, players look like they could play another 10 games and be lucky to get another 5 goals in that time.

The stats speak for themselves 

Lambert09

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3 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

I'd have more faith that Enzo could adapt slightly but there is no way Enzo would get this squad of players playing as well as a couple of seasons ago. 

To be fair, he struggled at times two years ago. 

I massively disagree on this. The squad is genuinely not a great deal weaker a good manager would get a tune out of what we have. 
 

just imagine what he would do for monga 

Lloyd90

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2 minutes ago, teblin said:

Surprised there hasn’t been any whispers to be honest.

Wonder if we can’t because of PSR. My worry is who would actually want to come here now? I want him gone, but our next appointment would be bargain bucket. I doubt we would even attract Gary O’Neil now.

kingfox

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On 27/09/2025 at 18:43, kingfox said:

And we’re about to enter a run of six games that look even better than our first seven. 
 

These next six games will tell us a lot about Cifuentes, and hopefully we start to see performances where we play well for a full 90.

Well, after saying this to @Dan back in September, those six games told us that Cifuentes is shit.

 

1 win, 2 draws, 3 losses lol 

 

We’ve got progressively worse, and certain attacking and defensive statistics haven’t improved either. 
 

Time to tweet a corner flag so we can get the Brussel era up and running :scarf:

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RowlattsFox

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12 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I massively disagree on this. The squad is genuinely not a great deal weaker a good manager would get a tune out of what we have. 
 

just imagine what he would do for monga 

Monga would be exciting, and he may have been brave enough to chuck some of the other youngsters in too.

 

But other than that, KDH and Ndidi were crucial, Ricardo is a couple of years older, Faes and Vestergaard have got worse, No Hermansan, No left centre/left back and he also had Vardy, 

 

It's a hypothetical point though because we'd never have Ayew or Reid (and others) in the squad had he stayed. 

GorlestonFox

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21 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I massively disagree on this. The squad is genuinely not a great deal weaker a good manager would get a tune out of what we have. 
 

just imagine what he would do for monga 

Rubbish. We lost the spine of the team and didn't replace any!

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Chelmofox

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I am not as angry at Cifuentes as others. 

 

The core of his team are those who have proven themselves not to be good enough. I am imagine a big part of his remit it to get a tune out of them. I imagine Ruud also had that remit and refused and fell out with many, hence all the issues last year.  I think Ruud got to the point that he no longer cared, and likely saw no future for himself in management full stop. I want more from the academy, but we have to consider there are expensive assets at the club, that physicality as a massive predicament when promoting youth,  and even the U21's are midtable in PL2. 

 

The team has been gutted, last years recruitment was pi55 poor. This years we effectively have one player we can use (James - who appears to be nursing an injury anyway). Some players are bang out of form and low on confidence.

 

Its a tough, tough hand. His interview last night he looked like he really gave a toss. He also made these players walk around the pitch after the Blackburn game. I don't buy that he doesn't give a crap.

 

I never thought we would get promoted this season. I always felt this needed to be viewed as a project where we get rid of as much deadwood as possible and rebuild the future. It is poor right now, but projects can take time. You have to give players runs of games (Caranza) etc to give them a chance to adapt. Fixing isn't as easy as 'just change everything and get rid of the bloke who played poorly last week'.

 

If Cifuentes is working to a remit then the ownership are complicit in how the project should go. Unless their heads change, they will go for the same type of approach whoever we hire. 

 

I cant see everyones head turning at the club and going for a completely different type of manager. I cant see someone else coming in and just fixing it. 

 

I think we are going to waddle to January mid table and see what that transfer window brings. We need to be prepared to be in this leauge for a few years while we rebuild.

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Nolucklcfc

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It still amazes me that people will say how poor the players are, how they aren’t good enough and don’t want to here but the manager should be doing so much better with a “squad like this” 

 

Maybe we are just shit? 

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Chelmofox

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27 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I massively disagree on this. The squad is genuinely not a great deal weaker a good manager would get a tune out of what we have. 
 

just imagine what he would do for monga 

Ive done this one before. This is the team that beat Southampton 1-4 September 2023. 4 of the starters are still here, and one of those is Vestergaard ffs. Winks isnt the player he was (and arguably was found out the 2nd half of that season anyway), and Mavididi has played like a poor imitation of himself for a season and a half now.

 

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bald reynard

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For me, the belief that Cifuentes needs to go has been set by his attitude towards Ben Nelson. The fact that this guy has been totally overlooked for over 2 months (not even getting on the bench) and then comes in, without ANY match practice (not even a game for the U21's), to be Man of the Match against Boro, is such a black mark against the Manager and his ability to man manage the team.

Clearly, Cifuentes can't cope - in his team selections, tactical abilities, awareness of substitution needs and general skill in dealing with the players.

Any future with us can't be justified.

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Joe90

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20 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

It still amazes me that people will say how poor the players are, how they aren’t good enough and don’t want to here but the manager should be doing so much better with a “squad like this” 

 

Maybe we are just shit? 

Yes we are shit and most people fully get your point, but unfortunately we can’t bin 10 players out our squad, the only realistic option will be part ways with the manager, who let’s be honest isn’t much better then the players, what has he actually done to warrant any credit? He was a bang average’s championship manger before he came here and still is now, we need a top end championship manger who will kick the players into shape! You have got to remember the championship this season is generally full of shite, there is no excuse we are so low down the table, manager has to take the hit! I’m sure points would pick up if we change 

ceebeefox

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59 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said:

Wonder if we can’t because of PSR. My worry is who would actually want to come here now? I want him gone, but our next appointment would be bargain bucket. I doubt we would even attract Gary O’Neil now.

I agree but surely Marti was bargain bucket? He came with no pedigree other than he was Spanish and liked to watch Barcelona under Cruyff!!!

Pliskin

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There’s proof in the past that you can polish turds in this league. 
 

We need a manager who will at least inspire this group to play for him, that’s the best we can do at the moment….. We just need someone who will maximise the players we have, and get them inside…. Even if their contracts are winding down, make the players have a sense of pride and play for their futures in the game if not with us. 

Chelmofox

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31 minutes ago, Joe90 said:

Yes we are shit and most people fully get your point, but unfortunately we can’t bin 10 players out our squad, the only realistic option will be part ways with the manager, who let’s be honest isn’t much better then the players, what has he actually done to warrant any credit? He was a bang average’s championship manger before he came here and still is now, we need a top end championship manger who will kick the players into shape! You have got to remember the championship this season is generally full of shite, there is no excuse we are so low down the table, manager has to take the hit! I’m sure points would pick up if we change 

Evidence suggest not. Dean Smith carried on about the same PPG as we had before, and Ruud didnt fix issues we had with Cooper. It sometimes happens in the short term (VP at Wolves) but even Wilder cant get a tune out of Sheffield Utd right now.

 

Saying it will just get us more points is as lazy as saying we should just dump all the players and pick the academy. There might be a bounce (if the leadership accept we should approach things in a different style), but on the whole i dont see how anything will be different with this bunch.

 

We have to strongly consider that Cifuentes is achieving about as much as he can do with this bunch. Heck, we are 4 points from the play offs.

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Lambert09

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58 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Ive done this one before. This is the team that beat Southampton 1-4 September 2023. 4 of the starters are still here, and one of those is Vestergaard ffs. Winks isnt the player he was (and arguably was found out the 2nd half of that season anyway), and Mavididi has played like a poor imitation of himself for a season and a half now.

 

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I’m not saying it’s just as good, but monga is better than Kasey. 
 

Jordan James is a strong player at this level, not at kdh levels yet but not a big enough downgrade to break a system. 
 

wilf was overperforming …. Because of the manager. Who knows who else he may have got a tune out of. Christ Enzo may have even got soumare playing, I think he’s a much better manager than we give him credit for. 

not to mention that Enzo pushed for exactly what he wanted in the market, he would have found a striker for a loan and personally made it happen… Marti looks to have just been a passenger entirely. 

 

throw in the yougsters we’ve got, that talent wasn’t available in our dev squad  when he was here. I think he’d have us battling for top 2.

 

 

But I also think that’s just where we should be in general, this league is muck and I’m not suddenly believing this crop of players simply isn’t good enough. It needs to be back to basics where a manager picks a system that works with what he’s got and focuses on the best players … as every other champ side does. Playing your only attacking threat as a wing back… is simply disgusting behaviour 

 

 

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