Who picks the team

[Winstonthedog]

Rudkin due the contracts were negotiated by him and no doubt promises were made to certain players about game time 

[Chelmofox]

17 minutes ago, Guest said:

Let's be realistic, it's probably going to be Rowett. I'm glad we're past the "it's not fair to criticise him, we don't know what he does!" stage of the Rudkin discourse but let's not take it all the way to "everything that goes wrong or that I disagree with must be solely down to Rudkin". I'm not sure why Rudkin would be particularly keen to have players like Ayew and Bob playing, nor why he would be making so little use of the recent signings he presumably signed off on. If he dictates the team, formation and style of play then surely he's also got to be in charge of subs and in-game adjustments, which begs the question why we keep spending money on hiring and firing managers when they don't actually have any responsibility for anything that happens on a match day. Was Rudkin in charge for Bristol City as well or was that Rowett because we won?

 

To be clear, that's not a defence of Rudkin either. As far as I can tell he's ****ed up pretty much everything he's in charge of but I think there's a real lack of compelling evidence or arguments to support laying the blame for team selections and tactics at his door as well.

Bristol City wasnt some sort of master class in team selection and management. We just came up against a team worse than us on the day.

 

And remember, if that penalty went in, we all know how that game was going to turn out.

 

Was driving to the Stadium when the team came out. When my boy told me I was strongly considering coming home. Honking selection, masked by an even worse Bristol City.

[Chelmofox]

12 minutes ago, Winstonthedog said:

Rudkin due the contracts were negotiated by him and no doubt promises were made to certain players about game time 

This is where I am at. Its probably a bit tin foil hat, but would love to know how common these sorts of promises are in contracts, or deals with agents?

Edited 15 March by Chelmofox

[Winstonthedog]

3 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

This is where I am at. Its probably a but tin foil hat, but would love to know how common these sorts of promises are in contracts, or deals with agents?

Very I should imagine .... agents will get fee's for appearances ....  league position and the like ...

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, wattolcfc said:

Got told by someone close to the club yesterday that Top calls Rudkin and gives him rough instructions in broken English and is told to do whatever Top says. This is not me defending Rudkin but it sounds to be as though Top is more in control than people think and Rudkin is a yes man, hence why Top is defending him as he just carry’s out instructions.

Probably wrong thread but wouldn’t surprise me if he also has some say in the selection.

Unless it’s contractual, I don’t believe Rowett would accept not being in control of team selection. 

[CrazyKopCorner]

It beggars believe we keep getting the same imbecilic team lines up and tactics. 

 

The keeper needs to go, Thomas shouldn't be playing, Okoli is a bomb scare, Mavi has been crap all season and Ayew is plain ridiculous to keep playing him - we're playing with 10 players every week. . 

 

Also tactics; all back at corners yet no one covers the player on the corner of the box or is anywhere near the D, our set pieces are abysmal, continued passing to the players wrong foot, no support on the ball, no turning with the ball into space, continued back and sideways passing, no one in the box when we do get into good positions etc 

 

These are the ****ing basics. 

 

Not Rowett's fault clearly but **** me he's crap 

 

Why can't we get someone competent in? 

[fazzyfox]

[Chelmofox]

17 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Unless it’s contractual, I don’t believe Rowett would accept not being in control of team selection. 

We know Rowett wasn’t first choice. Probably the best contract he’s ever had. It’s not hard to imagine the appointment came with several conditions. 

[Pita]

16 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

It beggars believe we keep getting the same imbecilic team lines up and tactics. 

 

The keeper needs to go, Thomas shouldn't be playing, Okoli is a bomb scare, Mavi has been crap all season and Ayew is plain ridiculous to keep playing him - we're playing with 10 players every week. . 

 

Also tactics; all back at corners yet no one covers the player on the corner of the box or is anywhere near the D, our set pieces are abysmal, continued passing to the players wrong foot, no support on the ball, no turning with the ball into space, continued back and sideways passing, no one in the box when we do get into good positions etc 

 

These are the ****ing basics. 

 

Not Rowett's fault clearly but **** me he's crap 

 

Why can't we get someone competent in? 

We won’t get someone competent until Rudkin and king power are gone. 

[st albans fox]

9 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

We know Rowett wasn’t first choice. Probably the best contract he’s ever had. It’s not hard to imagine the appointment came with several conditions. 

He’s been a manager for years 

he won’t have been on a fortune but he’ll be more than comfortable, especially after being a decent level  pro for many years. 
 

we’ve only offered him a deal till the summer. I guess he might have negotiated a chunky bonus but even then, he doesn’t strike me as the type to throw away his principles for half a million quid (Oxford would have still been paying him 10k/week and he’ll surely not be on more than 25k here). 

[Guest]

44 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Unless it’s contractual, I don’t believe Rowett would accept not being in control of team selection. 

I think we also have to assume that people in football talk to one another and word that the manager at Leicester doesn't get to choose the team, formation or tactics etc. would travel quite quickly and make future appointments even harder than they already will be. In the head coach era I know candidates have probably become accustomed to not always having the final say on things like transfers but I'm confident this would be a bridge too far. "Hi Gary, fancy a job at a club who've just dropped into the relegation zone, where morale, motivation and standards are at an all-time low and where the fans and players all hate each other" is a tough enough sell without the stipulation "also you can only use the players we tell you to in the exact way we tell you to".

 

To me it is an obviously nonsense idea that I'm quite surprised is being discussed even semi-seriously.

[funkyrobot]

People trying to use conspiracy theories to explain why Rowett picked Ayew. He picked Ayew because that’s who he wanted to start. He probably won’t pick him again now he’s experienced the full Ayew effect yesterday but let’s be honest, the alternative is almost a non footballer in Daka. Lots of effort and workrate but terrible technique. If Rowatt was being brave he’d accept that neither striker is good enough and try something else like playing Richards centrally.

Edited 15 March by funkyrobot

[dayday]

Watching Leicester now is like sitting on the naughty step for 90 minutes , I don’t know what’s  worse 

Edited 15 March by dayday

[Tomo260]

No idea who picks the team but obviously it's vile. 

 

I'd just hope they try this.

 

(Wrong Divine I know)

 

 

Edited 15 March by Tomo260

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

I've been complaining about the commitment to 4-2-3-1 for ages now.

 

                            Begovic

                 Okoli Lascelles Veste

Aluko/Pereira                            VK/Thomas

                James  Skipp  Winks

                      Fatawu  Daka

 

It's still a crap team but it would be much more solid.

[Mike Oxlong]

Paul the Octopus 

[splinterdream]

19 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Another manager. Largely same formation. Still picking Okoli even though he is the pits at passing. Daka dropped after scoring against Ipswich. Ayew picked even though the worst no 9 in history. Surely Rowett isn't picking this lot? So who is?

Think he played with 2 x 8's against Bristol rather than 2 x 6's, he's stopped inverting, but as has been said by previous managers, these players can only play 1 way

[splinterdream]

18 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

I've been complaining about the commitment to 4-2-3-1 for ages now.

 

                            Begovic

                 Okoli Lascelles Veste

Aluko/Pereira                            VK/Thomas

                James  Skipp  Winks

                      Fatawu  Daka

 

It's still a crap team but it would be much more solid.

VK is injured  and I don't think a formation change helps us, too many players just aren't putting in a shift or are prone to errors 

[funkyrobot]

25 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

I've been complaining about the commitment to 4-2-3-1 for ages now.

 

                            Begovic

                 Okoli Lascelles Veste

Aluko/Pereira                            VK/Thomas

                James  Skipp  Winks

                      Fatawu  Daka

 

It's still a crap team but it would be much more solid.

VK out for the season 

[splinterdream]

Its quite clear Rowett has decided making major changes in formation and personal is more likely to end in disaster, instead he's seen the players we have can't play 90 minutes, so he's tries to play powerful experienced players rather than skinny inexperienced academy players, and I think he's correct, but saturday showed that even players he thought he could trust, arent putting it in even from minute 1, so as he says, he needs to figure out the players that will give it their all, but as Pipes said, I don't think we'd be able to field a team. 

[Stuckina Rut]

I have asked myself this question before as I simply can't get my head around why we keep changing managers but the 4-2-3-1 formation remains the same and the same players keep getting picked regardless of opposition. When you have a losing formula why would any manager go "I've got a good idea to fix this club and stop the slide. Let's stick to what they've been doing for good knows how long." 🤦

 

I know the squad is poor but why not try a different formation like 3-5-2 or 4-4-2? Also Ayew and Daka have proven to be useless in different ways so why not try someone else like Richards or Mukasa or even JJ up front? Just try something FFS!

[StonyFox]

It wouldn't surprise me if he's been told he has to play a certain formation or system because Top once watched a Man City game, and that's how they played. I think the players are down to the manager, but we have such a badly built squad that there just aren't any good options. He only has the choice between Daka and Ayew upfront, and that's on Rudkin and recruitment. 

[Winstonthedog]

14 hours ago, Stuckina Rut said:

I have asked myself this question before as I simply can't get my head around why we keep changing managers but the 4-2-3-1 formation remains the same and the same players keep getting picked regardless of opposition. When you have a losing formula why would any manager go "I've got a good idea to fix this club and stop the slide. Let's stick to what they've been doing for good knows how long." 🤦

 

I know the squad is poor but why not try a different formation like 3-5-2 or 4-4-2? Also Ayew and Daka have proven to be useless in different ways so why not try someone else like Richards or Mukasa or even JJ up front? Just try something FFS!

Some players just don't understand certain systems... just look at Luke warm Thomas ... half the time he doesn't know if he's Arthur or Martha.... keep it simple 4-4-2 and put players into a position they know and are comfortable in ... we have to scrap for points and over complicating systems is not the way to go about it 

Edited 16 March by Winstonthedog
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[Chrysalis]

Careful, I dared suggesting the Manager doesnt have managerial freedom and was laughed at.

[AyewJoking]

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