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Daggers

July 1st ~ The end of the indoor puff!

By Daggers, in General Chat

  

93 members have voted

  1. 1. Banning smoking

    • 'Kin brilliant
      69
    • 'Kin ell!
      10
    • Not bovvered
      14

  2. 2. Totallt ban anything else for being dangerous?

    • Packaging
      12
    • Cars
      6
    • Knives
      32
    • Guns
      44
    • Loud music
      7
    • Fast food
      11
    • Chavs
      58
    • Drugs
      39
    • Alcohol
      7
    • Life
      6
    • Football
      5
    • Nuclear power
      12
    • Nuclear weapons
      35
    • Religion
      32
    • All sales of cigggies
      33
    • Records by Shakira
      35
    • Malted Milk biscuits
      18
    • Cellphones
      4
    • Radio masts
      10
    • Pesticides
      17

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Phube

Phube

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:yesyes:

I say fags just to wind up the locals. It makes them think that I'm being politically incorrect... and they hate that. :whistle:

A heinous crime in any 'Economically More Developed' Country! Shame on you!! :whistle:

AoWW

AoWW

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Damn, only a month to go and my days of passive smoking are over. :(:nono:

Guest

Guest

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Smoking as a "public good"

Tax is levied on tobacco in three ways: excise duty at a specific rate per 1,000 cigarettes, an additional rate based on 20% of the total retail price, plus VAT at 17.5% of the final price - including the other taxes.

The end result is that tobacco taxation, the amount levied in various ways by the government on every packet of cigarettes, cigars or smoking tobacco, comes to £12 billion per year, six times more than any NHS bills run up by nicotine addicts.

source

As the atricle says further down though

Smoking involves serious tax issues. But it also involves other intangible costs, including pain, grief and misery. It is impossible to value them in monetary terms. Which is why, arguably, to focus only on the amount raised in tax by the Exchequer is a false way of looking at this issue.
Webbo

Webbo

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As the article says further down.

"These are guesstimates, statistical projections that bear no relation to reality what so ever," he said.

"We keep asking the BMA for hard evidence of the health impact of passive smoking, and they simply cannot provide it.

"It is fraudulent to call for a total ban on smoking in all public places based on statistical projections, and not hard evidence."

Leicfox

Leicfox

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Id say it was bending the truth yes...

Published in August 2006

In essence, HSE cannot

produce epidemiological evidence to link levels of exposure to SHS to the

raised risk of contracting specific diseases and it is therefore difficult to prove

health-related breaches of the Health and Safety at Work Act.

Can you prove it has, without using phrases like "might" "may" "estimate" "Around" "Likely" ?

Guest

Guest

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As the article says further down.

"These are guesstimates, statistical projections that bear no relation to reality what so ever," he said.

"We keep asking the BMA for hard evidence of the health impact of passive smoking, and they simply cannot provide it.

"It is fraudulent to call for a total ban on smoking in all public places based on statistical projections, and not hard evidence."

Id say it was bending the truth yes...

Published in August 2006

In essence, HSE cannot

produce epidemiological evidence to link levels of exposure to SHS to the

raised risk of contracting specific diseases and it is therefore difficult to prove

health-related breaches of the Health and Safety at Work Act.

Can you prove it has, without using phrases like "might" "may" "estimate" "Around" "Likely" ?

You're both right. I'm sure Roy Castle's widow will agree with you. :rolleyes:

Webbo

Webbo

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You're both right. I'm sure Roy Castle's widow will agree with you. :rolleyes:

I didn't know she was a member. :unsure:

Guest

Guest

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I'm bored of this. At the end of the day, in less than a month, I shall be enjoying a glass of vino in a smoke-free ednvironment, and it can't come quick enough. Smokers can moan all they like. I intend to enjoy every last bit of fresh air.

Leicfox

Leicfox

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You're both right. I'm sure Roy Castle's widow will agree with you. :rolleyes:

Thats the only named case, ever. And as sad as it is one person doesn't really mean anything in statistical terms.

Thing is with Roy i think he had adenocarcinomas of the lung, which Sir Austin Bradford Hill, who first discovered the increase in risk of squamous and oat cell lung cancer among active smokers found absolutely no association whatsoever between smoking and adenocarcinomas.

Yet other studies have shown it has.

Who do we believe ?

Guest

Guest

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See my earlier post.

I DON'T CARE.

Webbo

Webbo

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I'm bored of this. At the end of the day, in less than a month, I shall be enjoying a glass of vino in a smoke-free ednvironment, and it can't come quick enough. Smokers can moan all they like. I intend to enjoy every last bit of fresh air.

I've never been a smoker and would advise anybody who is to give up. I just think grown ups should be given the right to chose that's all. If the government allowed members clubs for smokers to go to if they chose I'd have no problem.

Like you say this is getting boring now ,lets give it a rest.

Father Ted

Father Ted

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A heinous crime in any 'Economically More Developed' Country! Shame on you!! :whistle:

More economically developed country (MEDC) whereas Brazil for example is a LEDC :thumbup:

Though they all smoke drugs not cigs!

Deathside

Deathside

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I've just spent a week in Cyprus followed by a week in Czech Republic - In both locations it seems that the majority of people smoke & there's no such thing as a smoke free restaurant or bar

Now there maybe another reason for it but I noticed that throughout the 2nd week I was coughing more and more, especially on the final evening - I woke up on the final night with my throat on fire and choking on thick flem ranging from green to black

2 days later I have zero cold symptoms whatsoever but I have the sorest sorethroat this side of sorethroatville - For once I'm actually glad to be back in the UK :ph34r:

  • 2 weeks later...
Teeno

Teeno

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I still can't believe this is going to happen. It has to be the most ridiculous law ever passed.

Common sence would be that pubs should have to have at leats 50% non smoking area. But we're being pushed onto the streets and beer gardens. I think it's an outrage.

Don't even get me started on smoking at work, if work places have a completly seperate smoke room then what's the issue with that?

They'll be banning beer in public places next.

Babylon

Babylon

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Excellent... go cry into your outdoor ashtrays smog boys.

I wish people who run public transport would do something about people smoking on buses though. I'm sick to death of it and one day I will end up getting arrested for punching some ignorant t*** in the face when they light up.

Phube

Phube

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I wish people who run public transport would do something about people smoking on buses though. I'm sick to death of it and one day I will end up getting arrested for punching some ignorant t*** in the face when they light up.

Problem is, if you did you'd probably get stabbed!! :blink: Chavvy scum!! :angry:

lildave3

lildave3

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Problem is, if you did you'd probably get stabbed!! :blink: Chavvy scum!! :angry:

They smoke on public transport, that makes them a chav?? :blink:

Phube

Phube

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They smoke on public transport, that makes them a chav?? :blink:

Does in my book!! :thumbup:

You admitting to it then!??? :whistle:

Daggers

Daggers

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I sat next to a pretty young filly on the bus and she was smoking. So smoking in fact that the lad on the seat opposite was trying to pretend to be looking at something on his phone when in all reality he was so obviously taking pictures of her. I laughed.

Where was I? Oh yea - smoking on buses...they are all scummers. :angry:

Daggers

Daggers

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Common sence would be that pubs should have to have at leats 50% non smoking area.

If common sense was part of the equation then no one would smoke.

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