Nath Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 He's in the NOTW Championship team of the day y'know So is McAuley. If Fryatt didn't get a red, he would definately been in the team of the week. Didn't think Stearman played so well to be in team of the week
Messi Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 One decent game doesn't make him god.16 other game's have been shit. He Played Really Good In The Second Half Against Chelsea And He played Brilliant against Villa
Joe. Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 Stearman's deserved all of the stick he's got sp far this season. However, credit where it's due, he had a good game yesterday. I'll be happy when he can do it consistently.
Matt Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 He Played Really Good In The Second Half Against Chelsea And He played Brilliant against Villa Yeah but he does in cup games/bigger opposistion. Tottenham? Villa (Last year)? Villa (This season)? Chelsea? Then the majority of league games he's shocking. Why does he play better in cup games/against better opposition - Because he's big headed? Because he thinks he's better than he is so when he plays a normal league game he believes he's better than them so just turns up and expects to beat them so doesn't even try but when he plays bigger teams he knows he has to play and perform well to win, and thinks he's playing against the type of opposistion he thinks he should be playing against week in week out?! Or is it just coincidence that the majority of the time he's poor yet he has great games against the bigger teams? Yesterday? Perhaps Holloway's the man to bring Stearman on, Perhaps Holloway's the man to motivate Stearman...Or perhaps Stearman knew he had to play to be in Holloway's plans for the future? But I know in his first season he was great, I'd go as far as saying he was one of our best players than season, I know it was probably a case best of bad bunch though. But since his first season (3 years ago) he's been poor, 2nd season I was hoping he'd just been unlucky, hadn't got going, which to be fair it was an acceptable excuse we didn't really have anyone that performed that season, On came the 3rd season (This season) I was hoping he'd put his 2nd season behind him but nope same old performing against the better opposition, poor in the league games. Now is the time for this message to get through to ALL of the players, This is your chance, This is a fresh start (Another fresh start) perform, make a name for yourselves, and let's move up that table and get abit of improvement for this club.
volpeazzurro Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 that says more about our transfer policy and our previous finances, he is 20 years old you cant expect him to be experienced at that age, he will learn and develop as he get older and fills out, Ollie seems to be the 1st manager since his début that combines the strict disciplinarian with that arm round the shoulder encouragement that all players of that age needs. He was NEVER as good as a lot of people made out back then and he certainly isn't as bad as your making out now, he's an average championship Right Back with the potential to be a superb Centre Half 1 day, give him time and don't get on his back from the moment his 1st pass goes astray as that doesn't work no matter how much as you morons think it will He's not an average right back, he's extremely poor! He's been here long enough to show what he's worth and he's worth nothing! Poor touch, poor passing, and poor reading of the game. I would put him behind Chambers, Kenton, Kaebi and Maybury as a right back. Chambers is ten times the player in that position. By the way, as bad as he is at right back he's even worse in midfield, though it's not his fault if he's played out of position. I would imagine that for the Bristol game the team was picked by the incumbant staff etc, when 'Ollie' gets to know what is at his disposal lets hope Stearman gets the boot together with any of the mindless ideas, formations and tactics of his other staff who have let us down badly this season thus far! Cheers.
The Stig Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 He is slowly improving. He still is not good defensively, he gives people far too much space and people get past him far too easily.
Thracian Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 One decent game doesn't make him god.16 other game's have been shit. Stearman is one of only five players who have scored two or more goals for us this season and he's played his part in the best defence in the Championship by some way (12 goals conceded in 16 games with seven clean sheets and only two games where we've conceded more than one goal, the most being 2). That's not just good, it's bloody brilliant. Indeed we've got our best defence for years not only according to the statistics but to anyone who looks at the number of real chances/shots our opponents are restricted to. Stearman can improve the same as all the rest of his fellow defenders- as I mention regularly. But I sure as hell wouldn't swop em for anyone else's defence in the Championship.
Nath Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 I would like to know: How many of the goals that we have conceeded, have come from the right?! Then we can Stearmans contribution.
Tommy G Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 This aregument could potentailly go on forever. One things for sure though, however good he plays for the reast of the season there will be certain people on here that will still have bad things to say about him. Some people are too proud or stubborn to go back on their original opinions. Im backing anyone that puts on a city shirt, as long as they put in 100%
Jack Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 Plays well away.Is shit at home Sounds like Leicester in general
Ultra Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 Fair play to Stearman for his goal yesterday. He has a habit of doing well for new managers, as he also scored in Kelly's and Megson's first wins. Perhaps his time with the England side will enable him to knuckle down and develop into the player he threatened to become a couple of seasons ago. And maybe Holloway will be the man to set him back on track. But it's still way too early to assume this will happen.
danny. Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 I would like to know:How many of the goals that we have conceeded, have come from the right?! Then we can Stearmans contribution. Good point, as Thracian blames any [reserve game] goal coming from the left fully on Kaebi, surely the same has to apply to Stearman with that logic?
Thracian Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 Good point, as Thracian blames any [reserve game] goal coming from the left fully on Kaebi, surely the same has to apply to Stearman with that logic? Don't forget to make allowances for goals scored while you're at it!
danny. Posted 25 November 2007 Posted 25 November 2007 but kaebi just being kaebi gives him +150 goals thracian...
Thracian Posted 26 November 2007 Posted 26 November 2007 but kaebi just being kaebi gives him +150 goals thracian... It sure does in some people's eyes.
volpeazzurro Posted 26 November 2007 Posted 26 November 2007 Stearman is one of only five players who have scored two or more goals for us this season and he's played his part in the best defence in the Championship by some way (12 goals conceded in 16 games with seven clean sheets and only two games where we've conceded more than one goal, the most being 2). That's not just good, it's bloody brilliant.Indeed we've got our best defence for years not only according to the statistics but to anyone who looks at the number of real chances/shots our opponents are restricted to. Stearman can improve the same as all the rest of his fellow defenders- as I mention regularly. But I sure as hell wouldn't swop em for anyone else's defence in the Championship. His goals are largely irrelevant as goals from right and left backs can usually be described as only an added bonus. They are employed to defend, I don't think Alex Ferguson expects hat fulls of goal from Evra, Brown or Neville when he's fit (a higher return of goals can be expected from centrebacks largely due to their size). As for our good defensive record, I think you'll find thats down to the performance of our 3 centrebacks of N'Gotty, McCauley and Kisnorbo and the general fielding of numerous defenders in midfield. Stearman during this period has played the part of hapless defender and very poor wingback (if that is what he was supposed to be doing as its hard to tell what his brief has been).
Daggers Posted 26 November 2007 Posted 26 November 2007 Plays well away.Is shit at home Are you my wife?
shrood Posted 26 November 2007 Posted 26 November 2007 His goals are largely irrelevant as goals from right and left backs can usually be described as only an added bonus. They are employed to defend, I don't think Alex Ferguson expects hat fulls of goal from Evra, Brown or Neville when he's fit (a higher return of goals can be expected from centrebacks largely due to their size). As for our good defensive record, I think you'll find thats down to the performance of our 3 centrebacks of N'Gotty, McCauley and Kisnorbo and the general fielding of numerous defenders in midfield. Stearman during this period has played the part of hapless defender and very poor wingback (if that is what he was supposed to be doing as its hard to tell what his brief has been). What about Riise eh eh eh?! Ian Harte?! I could go on...(I probably couldn't)
volpeazzurro Posted 26 November 2007 Posted 26 November 2007 What about Riise eh eh eh?! Ian Harte?! I could go on...(I probably couldn't) Good point well made, I stand corrected, but I meant in general terms the main thing you want from a defender is to defend.
Thracian Posted 26 November 2007 Posted 26 November 2007 His goals are largely irrelevant as goals from right and left backs can usually be described as only an added bonus. They are employed to defend, I don't think Alex Ferguson expects hat fulls of goal from Evra, Brown or Neville when he's fit (a higher return of goals can be expected from centrebacks largely due to their size). As for our good defensive record, I think you'll find thats down to the performance of our 3 centrebacks of N'Gotty, McCauley and Kisnorbo and the general fielding of numerous defenders in midfield. Stearman during this period has played the part of hapless defender and very poor wingback (if that is what he was supposed to be doing as its hard to tell what his brief has been). Footballers today are employed to attack as a team and defend as a team. Full-backs who are capable of scoring and making goals are gold dust. Look how vital Gary Neville was to Manchester United for his attacking prowess. He played a part in so many United goals when Beckham was at his peak. Graeme Le Saux was another and Riise has already been mentioned.
Jimmy Posted 26 November 2007 Posted 26 November 2007 don't forget Ashley Cole from his arsenal days or Roberto Carlos
Fez of Mahrez Posted 26 November 2007 Posted 26 November 2007 What are we doing here? Just naming world-class attacking full-backs? Can I play? Daniel Alves Cafu What's the point of this exactly though? And what has it got to do with an average Championship defender?
Jimmy Posted 26 November 2007 Posted 26 November 2007 What are we doing here? Just naming world-class attacking full-backs? Can I play?Daniel Alves Cafu What's the point of this exactly though? And what has it got to do with an average Championship defender? the point was made that Stearman's goals are an irrelevance, the counter point was made that attacking full backs that can chip in with goals are like goldust
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