Hull Pre-Match

[Father Ted]

Same team as against West Brom, if Clemence starts then I will boo every time he gets the ball.

[Bryn]

I think the line up requires more pace at home. Hull as the away side and as the side that they are will be disciplined and organised. Pace and width will be required to stretch the game. Against West Brom we could afford to sit back a little and soak up pressure initially and the extra man gave the players more room. Against 11 strong players, a means of breaching the defence will be more necessary I believe.

Having said that, I think it would be fair to give the winning line up another run out. However I think Ollie needs to be on his toes and ready to make changes early if the game is not going our way.

Henderson

Stearman McAuley Kisnorbo Mattock

N'Gotty

Oakley---------Hendrie

Fryatt

Campbell Howard

Subs; Alnwick, Chambers, Etuhu, Hume, Hayles

Only change being Campbell in just to provide a little more pace.

[Nath]

Henderson

Kisnorbo McAuley

Stearman-------------Mattock

N'Gotty

Oakley Hendrie

Fryatt

Hayles Howard

Easy formation really.

Stearman and Mattock as wingers, working up and down the wings, combining with the midfield pair and fryatt for the support, if needs be.

N'Gotty just in front of the defenders, but also there to help with the midfield pairing if needed. N'Gotty being in that position, gives Oakley and Hendrie a bigger chance of roaming forward, As N'gotty is back there for support in case of the counter.

Fryatt should be placed there, for the shear fact that that is the best position for him. He hasnt the speed of Campbell to run on to balls... Play the ball to his feet. as he can hold the ball well, and given the oppurtunity, create an opening for the front two.

This is our winning formula.

[Jonezy]

As long as Daggers starts the actual Matchday Thread, I'm not to biased about the starting line-up......

[Simon]

Same team as against West Brom, if Clemence starts then I will boo every time he gets the ball.

You plank.

I don't want Clemence to start either but booing him will hardly help the team will it?!

[FleckneyFox]

Just heard on SSN Hull have lost their last 2 away games

[act smiley]

They were pretty poor against Cardiff, the sort of ineffective grinding away that we've had a tendancy to do this season. Hopefully a good sign we can get something from it.

		Henderson
Stearman McAuley Kisnorbo Mattock
	Wesolowski/N'Gotty
	Oakley		Hendrie
  Etuhu			 Campbell
		   Howard

Is Wesolowski properly fit?

[lcfc_jme]

lildave3 is buying my ticket for this.

[Legend_in_blue]

Henderson

Kisnorbo McAuley

Stearman-------------Mattock

N'Gotty

Oakley Hendrie

Fryatt

Hayles Howard

Easy formation really.

Stearman and Mattock as wingers, working up and down the wings, combining with the midfield pair and fryatt for the support, if needs be.

N'Gotty just in front of the defenders, but also there to help with the midfield pairing if needed. N'Gotty being in that position, gives Oakley and Hendrie a bigger chance of roaming forward, As N'gotty is back there for support in case of the counter.

Fryatt should be placed there, for the shear fact that that is the best position for him. He hasnt the speed of Campbell to run on to balls... Play the ball to his feet. as he can hold the ball well, and given the oppurtunity, create an opening for the front two.

This is our winning formula.

What worries me about the formation is the fact that Ollie might see playing Clemence in the holding role as a better option than N'Gotty. I sincerely hope not, but it could happen. Please don't let it happen.

Secondly, are our players clever enough to allow for attacking options down the wings which coordinate with N'Gotty dropping back to make a back 3 in such situations? This requires much movement off the ball. We don't do that very well.

Would Hume be a better option than Fryatt behind a front two?

A selection headache Ollie. Pity there's not more quality to choose from!

[Legend_in_blue]

Also, we shouldn't get ourselves worried about the opposition. Come on people, Hull? Who are they? We should be beating teams like this 3 or 4-0 at home week in week out. They might be 5th, so what? They've obviously got a few lumps up at the back and a huge centre forward. Long ball most probably. Seen it all before. Quality? No, definately not.

I firmly believe that if we start passing the ball with pace along the floor and keep up a good tempo in games, we'll beat anyone. No-one in this division plays well against pace. Pass and move, pace, passion, enthusiasm. Wigan and Reading did it when they went up - look at them now. Derby didn't. Look where they are now.

'Nuff said.

[ASH17LCFC]

If it can be improved then yes surely?

Alot of fans said Fryatt played well on saturday but you lot wouldn't be happy if he scored a hat trick and set 2 up. You're still complain.

[Joe.]

Also, we shouldn't get ourselves worried about the opposition. Come on people, Hull? Who are they? We should be beating teams like this 3 or 4-0 at home week in week out. They might be 5th, so what? They've obviously got a few lumps up at the back and a huge centre forward. Long ball most probably. Seen it all before. Quality? No, definately not.

I firmly believe that if we start passing the ball with pace along the floor and keep up a good tempo in games, we'll beat anyone. No-one in this division plays well against pace. Pass and move, pace, passion, enthusiasm. Wigan and Reading did it when they went up - look at them now. Derby didn't. Look where they are now.

'Nuff said.

Oh dear, one of the most ignorant posts ever

Just because Hull haven't been good in previous seasons doesn't mean they aren't now. Their league position clearly reflects their good work this season and they shouldn't be considered to be shit or a pushover team.

[ASH17LCFC]

Oh dear, one of the most ignorant posts ever

Just because Hull haven't been good in previous seasons doesn't mean they aren't now. Their league position clearly reflects their good work this season and they shouldn't be considered to be shit or a pushover team.

Hull on form are probally the team to beat but Palace and Norwich were and we beat them.

[RowlattsFox]

I hope we have a plan to deal with the pace of Campbell. Hull do have some very good players, Campbell, Folan, Windass, Hughes, Pedersen, Marney etc.

[AyewJoking]

Oh dear, one of the most ignorant posts ever

Just because Hull haven't been good in previous seasons doesn't mean they aren't now. Their league position clearly reflects their good work this season and they shouldn't be considered to be shit or a pushover team.

In legend in blue's defence we really shouldnt be worrying what Hull can do to us and more what we can do to them. Sure they're flying high but that means little in this league.

If we go out with the attitude not to lose then we'd best be planning on winning all of the remaining home games.

[Rich Fox]

5-2-3

Against Hull? At Home? ...just because it's a winning team, ok it was against WestBrom, but also against ten and then nine men, that shouldnt distract from the fact the formation and the team selection were not the deciding factors on Saturday... if you ask me had we persisted with that formation against 11 men the result could have been very different.

The big leason from Saturday was Hendrie, Howard and Hayles' contributions and the effective way N'Gotty was able to get forward... but playing Hull at home is a very different proposition to playing WestBrom away and will require a different approach.

Dont under estimate hull they could be heading for automatic promotion, they score a lot of goals and we should keep it solid at the back ie like team selection at wba. Leave wining team alone.

[lildave3]

Also, we shouldn't get ourselves worried about the opposition. Come on people, Hull? Who are they? We should be beating teams like this 3 or 4-0 at home week in week out. They might be 5th, so what? They've obviously got a few lumps up at the back and a huge centre forward. Long ball most probably. Seen it all before. Quality? No, definately not.

I firmly believe that if we start passing the ball with pace along the floor and keep up a good tempo in games, we'll beat anyone. No-one in this division plays well against pace. Pass and move, pace, passion, enthusiasm. Wigan and Reading did it when they went up - look at them now. Derby didn't. Look where they are now.

'Nuff said.

[Koke]

I can't believe some people are under estimating Hull.

They are fu cking deadly.

[Raj]

I can't believe some people are under estimating Hull.

They are fu cking deadly.

They must be one of the form teams at the moment surely?

Anyway...its only Tuesday.

I only get excited about games on Saturday!!!!!

[Bryn]

Also, we shouldn't get ourselves worried about the opposition. Come on people, Hull? Who are they? We should be beating teams like this 3 or 4-0 at home week in week out. They might be 5th, so what? They've obviously got a few lumps up at the back and a huge centre forward. Long ball most probably. Seen it all before. Quality? No, definately not.

I firmly believe that if we start passing the ball with pace along the floor and keep up a good tempo in games, we'll beat anyone. No-one in this division plays well against pace. Pass and move, pace, passion, enthusiasm. Wigan and Reading did it when they went up - look at them now. Derby didn't. Look where they are now.

'Nuff said.

Right. I hate people who come out with this, it just gives other fans an excuse to come on and lump us all in the same boat and think of us all as arrogant cocks.

They've got one of the highest rated young keepers in this division, defenders I'd take here despite the quality we already have at the back, some midfielders that can combine class with grit, and one of the deadliest strikers in the league.

[clazkel]

I quite agree about Mattock. Even if he sticks with a 4-3-3 and plays Hendrie and Oakley either side of a holding player I'd use Mattock at left wing back.

We need to use the three attackers again - two has so rarely been enough and with Howard being a certainty that leaves two other choices.

Personally I'd go with DJ and Fryatt but that's just because I think it gives us most variety and I'm sure a case could be made for Hayles and Hume.

But I've long wondered if our team is most suited to 4-3-3 and to me it's the best way of having sufficient scoring potential, particularly as N'Gotty holding central midfield allows use of Kisnorbo/McAuley attacking free-kicks/corners which I think we've missed.

I'd have Etuhu on the bench. Wingers often benefit a bit when the game slows anyway and I think when we only play two in central midfield no-one really attacks with conviction, being afraid of being caught on the fast counter.

So for me:

Henderson,

Stearman, McAuley, Kisnorbo, Mattock;

Oakley, N'Gotty, Hendrie;

Fryatt,

Campbell, Howard.

Subs: Chambers, Clapham, Etuhu, Clemence, Hayles.

Were it my decision I'd have King followed by Weso on the bench instead of Clemence, King because he could easily play the holding role if N'Gotty tires yet also provide extra attacking impetus if necessary. But we all know that won't happen so I've left Clemence in situ.

This looks good to me. I like it when N'Gotty plays between the defence and midfield as he did on Sat and afew months ago but Ollie changed it. He breaks things up and you don't have to worry about his pace as he has McAuley and Kisnorbo behind him. I think Mattock deserves his place but i have a feeling Clapham may start as he has looked solid for us since he arrived (except imo sometimes when he gets half way up he pitch with the ball he sometimes gives the ball away).

I would like to see Fryatt behind the front 2 rather than on the wing, as he wont have to concentrate on defending like he had to sometimes on Sat. I would like to see Campbell and Hume up front, no offence to Howard as he played well on Sat and took his goals really well, but it doesn't work every time and i think because we are at home we need to attack them on the floor with pace (I know there is no chance Howard will be on the bench and after his 3 goals he deserves to be in the team but i would like to see how Hume/Campbell get on up front). Also Hayles played his socks off on Sat especially when he kept getting back and defending so he may deservably start.

Don't get me wrong we played the best i have seen us play in a long time on Sat, especially the commitment and enthusiasm the players showed, but when they scored i had the feeling we were going to get hammered but we had luck on our side as their player was sent off at the right time for us. Then McAuley scoring afew mins later was great, then the penalty calmed us for afew minutes. But then i felt we dropped back and i was worried that they were going to keep pressurising us but we scored again at the right time and from then we blasted them and could've scored soo many more goals. I don't want to take anything away from the win as it was well deserved but luck seemed to be on our side on sat, for the first time in a while and long may it remain with us.

[Thracian]

Also, we shouldn't get ourselves worried about the opposition. Come on people, Hull? Who are they? We should be beating teams like this 3 or 4-0 at home week in week out. They might be 5th, so what? They've obviously got a few lumps up at the back and a huge centre forward. Long ball most probably. Seen it all before. Quality? No, definately not.

I firmly believe that if we start passing the ball with pace along the floor and keep up a good tempo in games, we'll beat anyone. No-one in this division plays well against pace. Pass and move, pace, passion, enthusiasm. Wigan and Reading did it when they went up - look at them now. Derby didn't. Look where they are now.

'Nuff said.

If you want to make a job doubly difficult you've just about come up with the perfect attitude - one which would make anyone determined to ram your words back down your throat.

Hull, for a start, are a damn sight higher up the table than we are and they've managed that for a reason.

And the reason when we played them at Hull was that they made us look piss poor with capital letters.

Their players were first to the ball, second to the ball and in fact they owned the ball and damn well let us know it.

In sexual terms we couldn't raise an erection never mind a performance. Kaebi got banged from behind so often he spend most of his time spreadeagled on the grass and if he'd not had enough by half-time Holloway had.

So the first thing Hull deserve is some proper respect and I'd be playing that video to the players as a reminder of everything I didn't ever want to see again from a Leicester team - not just against Hull but ever again.

You're right about the passing, the moving and the pace but first we need to get the ball and than means competing with attitude from the first minute to the last.

We owe them one. We've got an embarrassment to wipe out. Not the fact that Hull beat us. But that we waved the white flag and didn't compete. That's what I'd be concentrating on. And I'd be doing some more work in training on passing/moving/finishing and on lethal and imaginative set-pieces.

It was so bad at Hull I've never wanted to watch City play away from home since although I did go to Blackpool and that was nearly as bad. Holloway has the perfect chance Saturday to demonstrate how much better his team is and how much he's learned since that disgraceful day.

[Flynny]

In sexual terms we couldn't raise an erection never mind a performance. Kaebi got banged from behind so often he spend most of his time spreadeagled on the grass and if he'd not had enough by half-time Holloway had.

Unless that was deliberate it might have been best not to follow that sentance with the next.

[Thracian]

Unless that was deliberate it might have been best not to follow that sentance with the next.

What have I said? :D

[Koke]

Hull deserves a lot of respect and so does that sheep shagger reject of a manager they have. They have some good players in Pedersen, Windass, Marney, Ashbee and Garcia and they have a deadly striker who goes by the name of Fraizer Campbell.

They taught us a proper lesson earlier in the season at their place and we got our arses handed to us on a plate. They deserve some respect.