Man on the pitch

[Ultra]

This completely sums up the season.

It amplifies how separated everyone at the club is, and how much unrest is present. Nothing is together. What chance do we have of getting out of this situation with the club in this state? Recent results have forced us into a downward spiral, and its reaching rock bottom... fast. If we don't start pulling together, and quickly, I'm very sorry to say that League 1 is where we will be next season, yet I can't see it happening with the mentality that is coming from the club.

...or from the fans.

Those who took part in the pro-Holloway chants today were a DISGRACE. They belong at Forest or Cov!

[lavrentis]

...or from the fans.

Those who took part in the pro-Holloway chants today were a DISGRACE. They belong at Forest or Cov!

Why are you forcing people to have the same opinion as you?

[SantiagoFox]

That just happened to be the straw that broke the camel's back and actually had nothing to do with fans standing. The Taylor report was influenced by the Conservative Government to be used as a means of crushing the rampant hooliganism that was plaguing the game of football at that time that's why they came up with all seater stadium.

Hillsborough was caused by allowing too many people into one section of the ground which due to perimeter fencing, put there to try to prevent the worst excessives of hooliganism had no exits other than those that were continuing to let in more fans. Ironically the death toll was made higher because those in charge thought those fans trying to escape from being crushed were hooligans.

So I think we can safely say that all seater stadiums happened because of hooliganism, Hillsborough happened due to events/actions put in place to try and prevent hooliganism.

I don't think we can safely say that at all.

Hillsborough happened because the South Yorkshire police opened entrances which led to people going down the tunnel into an area which was already full.

But I wouldn't conclude that all seater stadiums happened because of poor policing; they happened because of the judgement of one judge who was not familiar with football, or its hooligan problem.

[Sods]

What an idiot he was. I booooooooed him.

[wurmer]

Some people are praising him but personally I thought he was a ****ing clown.

You talking about Holloway, or Mac - because to be honest, it's hard to tell......

[Fox You Forest]

...or from the fans.

Those who took part in the pro-Holloway chants today were a DISGRACE. They belong at Forest or Cov!

Has that got anything to do with the the man on the pitch?

Anyway back on topic i just though it was hilarious the way he was running, Obviously he was going slow to avoid slipping but like i said earlier Graham Norton would be ashamed to run like that.

[Leicester_Mad]

Why is he a tosser ? Do you know him ? He cares alot for Leicester and took it alot of balls to do what he did.

I hope he doesn't get a life ban because he was in the right.

only just got to here in the thread and i have to post. You sir are an absolute **** as is the guy that went on the pitch! He showed balls that others wouldn't - no - others just aren't that fooking stupid and are real supporters who will be around in the ground next season. Hopefully "mac" wont be near the club again.

[FilboFox]

Yes he did but wasn't out to hurt anyone was he ? The bloke a massive Leicester fan and was showing alot more passion then Ollie and the shower of shite.

If he gets a life ban then the club are a fooking disgrace and i for one will be chucking my season ticket on the pitch in 2 weeks.

And miss the last game of the season... shame on you! Call yourself a supporter!

[Leicester_Mad]

Ok but it just doing my head in that people are calling Mac when they don't know him and the effort he puts into Supporting Leicester.

the effort he makes is being an absolute **** that "runs" over the pitch tryin to get some sort of reaction and fails miserably. I would be ashamed of him myself and anyone that is actually supporting what he did should just fook off from the club. Then again these fans are the ones that probably moan because we miss a word out of a song nowadays.

[davieG]

I don't think we can safely say that at all.

Hillsborough happened because the South Yorkshire police opened entrances which led to people going down the tunnel into an area which was already full.

But I wouldn't conclude that all seater stadiums happened because of poor policing; they happened because of the judgement of one judge who was not familiar with football, or its hooligan problem.

Where did I say it was due to poor policing? I said Hillsborough happened because of poor policing couple with fencing put in because of hooliganism. (Read my 2nd paragraph)

I said the Taylor report and thus all seater stadium was to quell hooliganism and had very little to do with anything that happened at Hillsborough, it also had very little to do with the judge not being familiar but due to pressure from the government to use it, the Taylor report that is as a means of dealing with hooliganism (Read my first Paragraph)

I think my last pragraph is all so quite clear on what i believe were the causes of Hillsborough & why we ended up with the Taylor Report that we did.

My quote

That just happened to be the straw that broke the camel's back and actually had nothing to do with fans standing. The Taylor report was influenced by the Conservative Government to be used as a means of crushing the rampant hooliganism that was plaguing the game of football at that time that's why they came up with all seater stadium.

Hillsborough was caused by allowing too many people into one section of the ground which due to perimeter fencing, put there to try to prevent the worst excessives of hooliganism had no exits other than those that were continuing to let in more fans. Ironically the death toll was made higher because those in charge thought those fans trying to escape from being crushed were hooligans.

So I think we can safely say that all seater stadiums happened because of hooliganism, Hillsborough happened due to events/actions put in place to try and prevent hooliganism.

[Kilworthfox]

Yeah was awesome losing 3-0 and taking another step to league 1 Some fans think football is all about atmosphere and standing up. I rather Leicester won then taking my shoes off and singing songs about us winning the league.

Grow up you moron.

The only thing that I can see here in this whole thread is that there is a massive split between Leicester fans.

There are the ones who go to the match watch the game from your seated view, and are mostly quiet unless you feel the need to clap along with the great escape. You guys have a problem with those who stand and berate you because you don't (in their eyes) get behind the team.

The others are the ones who stand to watch and vocally get behind the team. When things are going wrong they are angry too, however they make the best out of a bad situation and have a good time anyway even if Leicester lose buy singing, yes daft songs which are so obviously out of place which is amusing to this group.

I think we all know what camp I am in but I don't like to see this in fighting between fans because of how they chose to support our team. I would like it if everyone would sing but I have no right to condemn anyone if you don't.

[Kilworthfox]

Sorry Mr Pedantic.

I would venture to say that 30+ people watching the game on the stairs whilst standing is illegal in the context of health and safety regulations, my question still stands (no pun intended) was the guy on the pitch doing anything more dangerous than those who were allowed to remain standing on trhe stairs.

If a player can get booked for infighting a riot by removing his shirt after he has scored, then in that context Mac did much worse. By trying to justify a heated reaction by comparing it with a rule which we all know is illogical is poor justification.

[SamL]

The only thing that I can see here in this whole thread is that there is a massive split between Leicester fans.

There are the ones who go to the match watch the game from your seated view, and are mostly quiet unless you feel the need to clap along with the great escape. You guys have a problem with those who stand and berate you because you don't (in their eyes) get behind the team.

The others are the ones who stand to watch and vocally get behind the team. When things are going wrong they are angry too, however they make the best out of a bad situation and have a good time anyway even if Leicester lose buy singing, yes daft songs which are so obviously out of place which is amusing to this group.

I think we all know what camp I am in but I don't like to see this in fighting between fans because of how they chose to support our team. I would like it if everyone would sing but I have no right to condemn anyone if you don't.

I agree with you there son. At the end of the day, we're all in this together. We shouldn't be arguing about silly things like this.

We've got to accept some people do want to get behind their team but some don't so their decision has to be accepted. There shouldn't be any berating of other fans just because of the decision they make.

I'd love everybody to stand up and have a good time, but not everybody wants to. Why I don't know but we have to respect their decision.

[Kilworthfox]

That just happened to be the straw that broke the camel's back and actually had nothing to do with fans standing. The Taylor report was influenced by the Conservative Government to be used as a means of crushing the rampant hooliganism that was plaguing the game of football at that time that's why they came up with all seater stadium.

Hillsborough was caused by allowing too many people into one section of the ground which due to perimeter fencing, put there to try to prevent the worst excessives of hooliganism had no exits other than those that were continuing to let in more fans. Ironically the death toll was made higher because those in charge thought those fans trying to escape from being crushed were hooligans.

So I think we can safely say that all seater stadiums happened because of hooliganism, Hillsborough happened due to events/actions put in place to try and prevent hooliganism.

I am with you until here! Hillsborough happened due to poor policing and treating all fans like they were animals even in death they were given no respect because a cover up was needed and quick.

Also If were are that interested in the Taylor report why not read:

The 1st report (truth)

The 2nd report (cover up) Which is the 1 we live with now and fooks up everyone one this forum 1 way or another.

[samuel]

You are all cocks!!....

"Mac's" a cock!.....His mates's a cock!...The person who liked what he did is a cock!!!...The people that didn't like what he did are cocks!!.

All bleeding cocks i tell thee!

[Kilworthfox]

You are all cocks!!....

"Mac's" a cock!.....His mates's a cock!...The person who liked what he did is a cock!!!...The people that didn't like what he did are cocks!!.

All bleeding cocks i tell thee!

However I am

"Le coq Sportif"

[davieG]

If a player can get booked for infighting a riot by removing his shirt after he has scored, then in that context Mac did much worse. By trying to justify a heated reaction by comparing it with a rule which we all know is illogical is poor justification.

I think you're missing my point, I wasn't comparing Mac with general standing but with 30+ irate supporters (also a heated reaction) standing for 20 minutes or more on the stairs. They were allowed to continue whilst Mac was frog marched aggressively off the pitch. I know in my mind which person/group were creating a potentially dangerous situation.

As I said I've seen individuals ejected for standing after the goal music has stopped and yet this group was allowed to continue -Why?

Can I add that I'm very much in favour of standing but I also feel that the rule re running on the pitch either in fun or as a protest is draconian and allows stewards to over-react.

Like standing the enforcement of the rules are selective, do we not see fans regularly standing, do we not see fans still running on the pitch both getting away with it, I believe this is primarily because like many rules it's a sledgehammer to crack a nut and allows authorities to, in effect punish everyone in order to control the few.

I don't know if that makes my views clear but if it doesn't I can't be bother to continue because it's a pointless debate.

[Alexikokopops]

You are all cocks!!....

"Mac's" a cock!.....His mates's a cock!...The person who liked what he did is a cock!!!...The people that didn't like what he did are cocks!!.

All bleeding cocks i tell thee!

I agree with this chap.

[Kilworthfox]

I think you're missing my point, I wasn't comparing Mac with general standing but with 30+ irate supporters (also a heated reaction) standing for 20 minutes or more on the stairs. They were allowed to continue whilst Mac was frog marched aggressively off the pitch. I know in my mind which person/group were creating a potentially dangerous situation.

As I said I've seen individuals ejected for standing after the goal music has stopped and yet this group was allowed to continue -Why?

Can I add that I'm very much in favour of standing but I also feel that the rule re running on the pitch either in fun or as a protest is draconian and allows stewards to over-react.

Like standing the enforcement of the rules are selective, do we not see fans regularly standing, do we not see fans still running on the pitch both getting away with it, I believe this is primarily because like many rules it's a sledgehammer to crack a nut and allows authorities to, in effect punish everyone in order to control the few.

I don't know if that makes my views clear but if it doesn't I can't be bother to continue because it's a pointless debate.

I'm getting there

I think that the stewards feel they are big men when an old guy runs across the pitch or a kid oversteps the mark by standing and is not protected by the mass that is L1 & K.

You are right in that basically the steward (who act on behalf of the club who act on behalf of the F.A who in turn follow the 2nd Taylor report) are cowardly and don't enforce the rules which is what they are meant to do. They make no effort to stop people standing where I am because there are 1000 at least all doing it so they chicken out of their responsibility. However get over to the top of the Kop and the "younger" fans will get picked out as they are less intimidating and in fewer numbers. that is cowardly.

[Durnerz]

I think you're missing my point, I wasn't comparing Mac with general standing but with 30+ irate supporters (also a heated reaction) standing for 20 minutes or more on the stairs. They were allowed to continue whilst Mac was frog marched aggressively off the pitch. I know in my mind which person/group were creating a potentially dangerous situation.

As I said I've seen individuals ejected for standing after the goal music has stopped and yet this group was allowed to continue -Why?

Can I add that I'm very much in favour of standing but I also feel that the rule re running on the pitch either in fun or as a protest is draconian and allows stewards to over-react.

Like standing the enforcement of the rules are selective, do we not see fans regularly standing, do we not see fans still running on the pitch both getting away with it, I believe this is primarily because like many rules it's a sledgehammer to crack a nut and allows authorities to, in effect punish everyone in order to control the few.

I don't know if that makes my views clear but if it doesn't I can't be bother to continue because it's a pointless debate.

So what if the bloke had a knife or a gun? I hardly think the Stewards are going to be nicey-nicey when it comes to a pitch invader, especially in the current climate where crime is as it is. I comment the stewards actions, the nob shouldn't have been on the pitch, the warnings are there in writing.

[Narborough Bod]

I think you're missing my point, I wasn't comparing Mac with general standing but with 30+ irate supporters (also a heated reaction) standing for 20 minutes or more on the stairs. They were allowed to continue whilst Mac was frog marched aggressively off the pitch. I know in my mind which person/group were creating a potentially dangerous situation.

As I said I've seen individuals ejected for standing after the goal music has stopped and yet this group was allowed to continue -Why?

Can I add that I'm very much in favour of standing but I also feel that the rule re running on the pitch either in fun or as a protest is draconian and allows stewards to over-react.

Like standing the enforcement of the rules are selective, do we not see fans regularly standing, do we not see fans still running on the pitch both getting away with it, I believe this is primarily because like many rules it's a sledgehammer to crack a nut and allows authorities to, in effect punish everyone in order to control the few.

I don't know if that makes my views clear but if it doesn't I can't be bother to continue because it's a pointless debate.

wtf were the stewards doing yesterday, how did they let him get on and why did none of them chase him once he was on it?

This is a serious question, because if they aren't allowed onto the pitch to follow fans, then there is likely to be a riot at the Wednesday game if we get relegated.

If they are allowed onto the pitch to chase encroachers then they were a shambles and should be sacked for doing a piss poor job.

[Master Fox]

The last time there was a man on the pitch we went down.

Was this man fat by any chance?

[Daggers]

The only thing that I can see here in this whole thread is that there is a massive split between Leicester fans.

There are the ones who go to the match watch the game from your seated view, and are mostly quiet unless you feel the need to clap along with the great escape. You guys have a problem with those who stand and berate you because you don't (in their eyes) get behind the team.

The others are the ones who stand to watch and vocally get behind the team. When things are going wrong they are angry too, however they make the best out of a bad situation and have a good time anyway even if Leicester lose buy singing, yes daft songs which are so obviously out of place which is amusing to this group.

I think we all know how camp I am but I don't like to see this in fighting between fans because of how they chose to support our team. I would like it if everyone would sing but I have no right to condemn anyone if you don't.

Yes.

Yes we do.

I loved the bloke screaming "SHIT!" at every available opportunity during our rendition of A Team Of Barry Hayles

[Simi]

wtf were the stewards doing yesterday, how did they let him get on and why did none of them chase him once he was on it?

They now tend do let them run around the pitch as I think they're told to. I think it's done because if the stewards chased him around the pitch it could make things worse. They only stepped in when he went near the benches.

But if he runs on with a knife and goes to one of the players? Not going to do much good then is it?

[Master Fox]

Yes.

Yes we do.

I loved the bloke screaming "SHIT!" at every available opportunity during our rendition of A Team Of Barry Hayles

Love this approach to football. Pay 20 odd quid to sit there shouting SHIT! all afternoon. What a great way to spend your weekend.