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Do you prefer Indie Rock or Rap/RnB?

Rock Or RnB?  

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  1. 1. Rock Or RnB?

    • Indie Rock, Alternative etc....
      35
    • Rnb/Rap etc...
      10


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At school, I'm always ripped for my 'shite' taste in music.

Personally I prefer Indie rock, and anything along them lines. And I have a strong hate for RnB and all that kind of music

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can we not have a "I like a bit of everything I'm Mr Eclectic option"

I love my punk rock, Hardcore always have always will BUT I also love my Hip Hop, Ninja Tunes, Mo Wax, Quannum, solesides stuff plus a bit of Drum and Bass, Country, Ska and just about most sub genres you can file things in!!

Good music is Good Music and is not confined to a certain genre.

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can we not have a "I like a bit of everything I'm Mr Eclectic option"

I love my punk rock, Hardcore always have always will BUT I also love my Hip Hop, Ninja Tunes, Mo Wax, Quannum, solesides stuff plus a bit of Drum and Bass, Country, Ska and just about most sub genres you can file things in!!

Good music is Good Music and is not confined to a certain genre.

Yeh, but I want to see what people would chose over the other. This isn't asking what music you like, it's asking which one you prefer.

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This has to be one of the most frequent discussion of my short life yet.

I can listen to either, but to those who know me its pretty obvious im a big fan of hiphop.

The worst thing is when you get people who belittle hiphop due to only hearing the mainstream music that hits our TV's and radios.

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Not particularly a fan of rap or r 'n b, but then again I will listen to anything that I think sounds good, I'm fairly open minded. I suppose I fall into the indie/alternative camp, but what is now called indie just isn't anymore. The phrase is derived from the music that came from independent music labels rather than a genre of music, it just so happened that this was the type of music which predominated such labels. There are not many true independent labels anymore, which is quite sad, as it takes music away from the people and into the hands of big business. Even those that claim to be independent labels tend to be a subsidiary of large corporations these days. Unfortunately, the type of guitar music which was associated with these labels has now become manufactured, just as boy bands were when they were fashionable in the 1990's. A lot of these bands are now bland and uniform. There are some exceptions, though I won't name my personal favourites as it is, of course, subjective.

Its just the way market forces effect things I suppose. There seemed, at least in my eyes, to be a backlash against the boybands and plastic pop at the beginning of this decade, with bands such as the Libertines and Bloc Party (not necessarily favourites of mine) coming to prominence and whetting the music buying public's appetite for guitar based rock. When groups such as these achieved some success, or at least some measure acceptability in more 'fashionable' crowds, a demand for the genre was established, noted by the major conglomerates in charge of the industry, resulting in the saturation of the music market with such music. Its swings and roundabouts, whatever is deemed fashionable by the money men will find its way into the market.

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i voted indie.

the other option is just a dead nothingness.

i like r'n'b that actually is rhytym and blues, ie that it has at least some element of blues, not this bland soul that mascarades as r'n'b nowadays, never understood how the name has stuck for this music...

and most mainstream rap has hardly moved on since the mid 80s...

mind you, the same can be said of most modern indie acts... probably why i mainly listen to music from the 50s-70s...

to be honest i'm totally disenchanted with the recording industry, can i vote for gabriel faure, please?

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This has to be one of the most frequent discussion of my short life yet.

I can listen to either, but to those who know me its pretty obvious im a big fan of hiphop.

The worst thing is when you get people who belittle hiphop due to only hearing the mainstream music that hits our TV's and radios.

ha ha - guilty as charged! :whistle:

but to be fair, the non mainstream stuff i've heard is pretty much the same, in fact, i'd say it's regressed, any sense of melody or cleverness seems to have been sacrificed for posturing and attitude - i blame p-diddy.

i kinda got into a rap group called anticon, but even they never really inspired me or moved me...

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ha ha - guilty as charged! :whistle:

but to be fair, the non mainstream stuff i've heard is pretty much the same, in fact, i'd say it's regressed, any sense of melody or cleverness seems to have been sacrificed for posturing and attitude - i blame p-diddy.

i kinda got into a rap group called anticon, but even they never really inspired me or moved me...

Try out the British hiphop.

I'm finding its a far better listen than anything else of the genre right now.

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RnB and Hip hop.

But as Chris Rock once said, sometimes I just can't defend it.

Then again, as Samilktray said, there are more to hip hop than the mainstream garbage that hit our TV and radio.

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i like r'n'b that actually is rhytym and blues, ie that it has at least some element of blues, not this bland soul that mascarades as r'n'b nowadays, never understood how the name has stuck for this music...

I like proper rnb too. Classic stuff that my dad listens to like Dr.Feelgood.

I'd pick "indie" but have chosen not to. On my mp3 I've got all types of stuff. Next to the Spice Girls I've got Still Remains (metal).

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Tbh I think I'm a split straight down the middle, I have different moods of which different genres suit. My ipod will vary between Dr Dre and The cribs and thats just because I like them both.

As someone said good music is good music and there is no pacific genre.

One thing that does annoy me though and ched touched on it, is when I listen to Hip hop stuff and get branded as a gangster/chav or what not. And when listening to indie stuff getting aksed "wheres yer skinny jeans?" etc.

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Stereotyping for the genre of music you listen to is one of the most frustrating things in life i find.

That, and appearance. I'm not really fan of baggy clothes and I don't wear them but I've come across many many incidents where people who wear baggy trousers have been wrongly judged and stereotyped.

And it's the same with music.

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ha ha - guilty as charged! :whistle:

but to be fair, the non mainstream stuff i've heard is pretty much the same, in fact, i'd say it's regressed, any sense of melody or cleverness seems to have been sacrificed for posturing and attitude - i blame p-diddy.

i kinda got into a rap group called anticon, but even they never really inspired me or moved me...

[Verse 1 - Vinnie Paz]

Yeah..

I don't know why I'm over here this job is evil

They send me here to Vietnam to kill innocent people

My mother wrote me said the President he doesn't care

We trying to leave the footprints of America here

They say we're trying to stop Chinese expansion

But I ain't seen no Chinese since we landed

Sent my whole entire unit thinking we can win

Against the Viet-Cong guerillas there in Gia Dinh

I didn't sign up to kill women or any children

For every enemy soldier, we killing six civilians

Yeah, and that ain't right to me

I ain't got enough of mother ****' fight in me

It frightens me and I just want to see my son and moms

But over here they dropping seven million tons of bombs

I spend my days dodging all these booby traps and mines

And at night, praying to God that I get back alive

And I'm forced to sit back and wonder

Why I was a part of 'Operation Rolling Thunder'

In a fox hole with nine months left here

Jungle like the ****' harbinger of death here

[interlude]

(soldier speaking)

I don't want to be here. I'm scared, I just want to go home.

(officer speaking)

You fooking kidding me? Don't be a pussy. Don't you love your country?

(soldier speaking)

I like being here. I'm ready.

[Verse 2 - R.A. The Rugged Man]

True story...

Call me Thorburn, John H. Staff Sergeant, Marksman

Skilling, killing, illing

I'm able and willing

Kill a village elephant, rapin' and pillage your village

Illegitimate killers, US Military guerillas

This ain't no real war, Vietnam shit

World War II, that's a war, this is just a military conflict

Soothing, drug-abusing, Vietnamese women screwing

Sex, gambling and boozin', all the shit is amusing

Bitches and guns, this is every man's dream

I don't want to go home, where I'm just a ordinary human being

Special OP, Huey chopper gun shit, run shit

Gook run when the mini-gun spit, won't miss, kill shit

Spit four-thousand bullets a minute

Victor Charlie, hit trigger, hit it

I'm in it to win it, get it

The lieutenant hinted the villain, I've ended up killing

I did it, cripple, did it, pictures I painted is vivid, live it

A wizard with weapons, a secret mission we about to begin it

Government funded, behind enemy lines bullets is spraying

It's heating up, a hundred degrees

The enemies the North-Vietnamese, bitch please

Ain't no sweat, I'm told "be at ease"

Until I see the pilot got hit, and we about to hit some trees

till the rotor broke, crash land, American man

Cambodia, right in the enemy hand

Take a swig of the whiskey to calm us

Them yellow men wearing black pajamas

They want to harm us

They all up on us

Bang, bang, bullet hit my chest, feel no pain

To my left, the captain caught a bullet right in his brain

Body parts flying, loss of limbs, explosions

Bad intentions, I see my best friend's intestins

Pray to the one above, It's raining and I'm covered in mud

I think I'm dying, I feel dizzy, I'm losing blood

I see my childhood, I'm back in the arms of my mother

I see my whole life, I see Christ, I see bright lights

I see Israelites, Muslims and Christians at peace, no fights

Blacks, Whites, Asians, people of all types

I must have died, then I woke up, suprised I'm alive

I'm in a hospital bed, they rescued me, I survived

I escaped the war, came back

But ain't escape Agent Orange, two of my kids born handicapped

Spastic, quadriplegia, micro cephalic

Cerebral palsy, cortical blindness, name it they had it

My son died he ain't live, but I still try to think positive

Cause in life, God take, God give

Now, THIS is what you call proper hip hop music. One of the few rap songs than I can listen to and sends chills through my bones - They are actually telling a true story.

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Here is some other non-mainstream hip hop - Same guys as previous song. I mean, when you consider the fact that shits like Soulja Boy (Yes I do really hate him) gets so much popularity and fame and he makes millions of dollars in the process, it does piss you off. It's absolutely cringe worthy.

[Verse 1]:

Yeah

It’s the contemporary form of slavery, they call it slave labour

But they don’t prosecute them cuz it’s how they make paper

When you rocking that fly shit that’s made in China

By an eight year old child tryna feed his mama

He exposed to contamination and disease

And only fifty-five percent of them will get degrees

And the women have to try to placate the boss

Because it’s sex discrimination in the labour force

The slave master only let them speak in sign language

And they’re suffering from lung disease and eye damage

fourteen hour shifts, seven days a week

two shitty meals a day, very little sleep

Human life only worth three cents an hour

All human right laws loose sense of power

What did four hundred years in the grave passes?

Only the improved cleverness of slave masters.

[Chorus]:

Is life worth living if you living in hell?

When the mind is confined to a prisoner’s cell?

And the lies they devise in the system that fail

But I expect the system to fail!

Is life worth living if you living in hell?

When the mind is confined to a prisoner’s cell?

And the lies they devise in the system that fail

But I expect the system to fail!

[Verse 2]:

It’s one point six million people locked in jail

They do new slave labour force trapped in hell

They generate over a billion dollars worth to power

And only getting paid twenty cents an hour

They make cloths for McDonald’s and for Apple Bee’s

And working fourteen hour shifts in prison factories

And while we sit around debating who the wack MC is

They have to work when arthritic pain attack the knees

Slavery is not illegal, that’s a fooking lie!

It is illegal, unless it’s for conviction of a crime

The main objective is to get you in your fooking prime.

And keep the prison full and not give you a fooking dime

But they the real criminal keeping you confined

For a petty crime but they give you two-to-nine

And ain’t nobody there to protect ya

Except a bunch of incompetent human rights inspectors

[Chorus]:

Is life worth living if you living in hell?

When the mind is confined to a prisoner’s cell?

And the lies they devise in the system that fail

But I expect the system to fail!

Is life worth living if you living in hell?

When the mind is confined to a prisoner’s cell?

And the lies they devise in the system that fail

But I expect the system to fail!

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can we not have a "I like a bit of everything I'm Mr Eclectic option"

I love my punk rock, Hardcore always have always will BUT I also love my Hip Hop, Ninja Tunes, Mo Wax, Quannum, solesides stuff plus a bit of Drum and Bass, Country, Ska and just about most sub genres you can file things in!!

Good music is Good Music and is not confined to a certain genre.

:clap: spoken like a true lover of music!

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