renards Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 The reason we got relegated this season was the constant changing of managers. We need to give a manager at least 1 full season to have any sort of stability at all.I know it's devastating he's took us down but theres no need to sack him for it. Give him a chance to get us back up. Mad Dog spelt backwards = 'God Dam' As in you have no God Dam idea about what your saying.. Your either, Bernie, Ian or Mrs H. Holloway is crap, if you let him start the season and he cocks up, the new manager doesn't have a pre season and here we go again. I like the bloke as you obviously do, but he's not up to it, not opinion..Fact
Thracian Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 The main problem for Holloway was that when City attacked and played for the win, against a manky Sheffield Wednesday side at home, the team got hammered. To suggest they do the same away to Stoke is a bit of a dodgy criticism. Hindsight gone mad!!!Holloway may be due some stick for some performances this season but I'm not convinced Stoke was one of them. The criticism was 100% valid in the circumstances because the one way we would guarantee safety was to win. Therefore our team selection, tactics and all our efforts should have been directed at doing that. They weren't. As on other occasions and with our other team selections and tactics, we allowed ourselves to be relegated by default. Through not scoring enough goals, not picking the players to score enough goals and not winning enough matches nor attempting to win them with any great conviction. Who Dares Wins, so the saying goes. And he didn't dare at all. PS: Sorry to disagree - most of what you say makes perfect sense and your funnies are one of the highlights of the forum.
Chromophobia Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 all the plebs keep going on about stability this, man utd alex ferguson that, but there's no point in having stability with a manager who quite clearly can't command his team. The players he's bought with his bountiful kitty have contributed heavily to us going down. People say it was on the cards anyway, and it was, but holloway gave us that last hard kick in the neck that's sending us down. he doesn't deserve to stay on. fook stability, we should start anew with a manager that gives a crap about the youngsters and about actually employing an effective playing system, instead of relying on talking a load of shit.
Webbo Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 Why stick with a front two producing nothing until the 85th minute then? And you know that bringing on a sub would have won the game?
Thracian Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 You heard.He's took us down and i've got over it now. He was only here for just over half season for a start so you can't 100% blame him for it. Why not stick with him and see if he can take us back up? We never used to sack managers when we were relegated from the Premiership straight away. It's a strange mentality with Leicester City now that if a player has 1 bad performance they are chucked onto the scrap heap and never make the squad again, and if a manager has a bad run of games he starts to lose the backing of the club, players and fans, and we seem to want to sack every manager straight away. Quite frankly i'm just sick of another new manager coming in, i just want to support the same club and same manager for a few years before another one comes in. It's time for stability now. At least give Ollie the first third of next season minimum. If we are still doing badly then, then we can get rid. Leaving us still plenty of time to recover for promotion/playoffs. Theres no rush to just sack the manager straight away at all. Ditching players after one bad performance is only further evidence that Holloway needs ditching. And his playing people who shouldn't be anywhere near our team in the first place is another. If you want endless more reasons just ask but they've mostly been mentioned by one poster or another already.
thegingerfox Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 Have to agree with the cries for stability here. Its a luxury we haven't had for many years at the walkers, give Ollie at least 15 games or so at the start of next season to see what he can do to get us out of the mess he (not entirely himself, many factors) put us in.
Corky Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 Have to agree with the cries for stability here. Its a luxury we haven't had for many years at the walkers, give Ollie at least 15 games or so at the start of next season to see what he can do to get us out of the mess he (not entirely himself, many factors) put us in. No, either we give him the full season or he goes now. We can do without another managerial change during the season, the stability will come by giving someone a full season, whether that will be Holloway or anoyne else remains to be seen.
Wycombe Fox Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 ...give Ollie at least 15 games or so at the start of next season to see what he can do... He's had over two thirds of a season including a transfer window during which he brought in ten of 'his own' players but it didn't make any difference. Why give him another transfer window and another third of a season to play Football Manager with our club? Did anyone see any marked improvement since January? This close season is going to be invaluable. It can't be wasted on the basis of giving Holloway a few games to 'see what he can do'. I've seen enough!
volpeazzurro Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 After thinking about it we really should keep Holloway for next season. He knows the players and i can't see any new manager coming in and getting us promoted straight away. No good managers will want to come to us now. Ollie got QPR promoted from League 1 so he is our best bet.Name me a good alternative that will get us out of League 1 in one season? Davies and Allardyce won't want to come here now. Now is the time for stability, i know some fans are saying get rid of all the losers that took us down but we shouldn't let them escape. They are all under contract and can get us out of this mess. Our strikers in League 1 now look superb, Fryatt, Howard, Campbell, Hume could all bag 20 goals easily in my view. I'm angry and devastated Ollie has took us down but we should stick with him. He knows the players and may even learn from his mistakes and sign players who are hungry to play for the shirt. I'm sure he will bring in more youngsters too. If we do stick with Holloway i think we can storm League 1 and come 1st but sacking another manager could leave us in more relegation trouble. If Dowie does come in and starts badly, signs the wrong players like Allen, we may end up in exactly the same predictament as this season. Stick with Ollie and we will come straight back up.
demon_dog Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 Just a reminder for those of you that believe it will be easy to get promoted next season. Our form against the 3 teams that came up was not very good. Colchester a 1 - 1 draw on each occassion, Scunny a 0 - 0 draw and a 1- 0 Win, Blackpool Lost 1 - 0 and lost 2 - 1. Results that basically show we are simply not good enough to expect automatic promotion next season. These results give me even less confidence when I realise that Ollie was in charge when we recently played both of the bottom clubs!! Get rid of him, lets have a full pre-season with someone who knows what's required.
Jack Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 Just a reminder for those of you that believe it will be easy to get promoted next season.Our form against the 3 teams that came up was not very good. Colchester a 1 - 1 draw on each occassion, Scunny a 0 - 0 draw and a 1- 0 Win, Blackpool Lost 1 - 0 and lost 2 - 1. Results that basically show we are simply not good enough to expect automatic promotion next season. These results give me even less confidence when I realise that Ollie was in charge when we recently played both of the bottom clubs!! Get rid of him, lets have a full pre-season with someone who knows what's required. Colchester didn't come up It was Bristol and we took 4 points from a possible 6 against them.
Legend_in_blue Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 Just a reminder for those of you that believe it will be easy to get promoted next season.Our form against the 3 teams that came up was not very good. Colchester a 1 - 1 draw on each occassion, Scunny a 0 - 0 draw and a 1- 0 Win, Blackpool Lost 1 - 0 and lost 2 - 1. Results that basically show we are simply not good enough to expect automatic promotion next season. These results give me even less confidence when I realise that Ollie was in charge when we recently played both of the bottom clubs!! Get rid of him, lets have a full pre-season with someone who knows what's required. So who do you have in mind? I would like to know!
demon_dog Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 Colchester didn't come up It was Bristol and we took 4 points from a possible 6 against them. Whoops. Mental glitch there!! I'm still in shock. We're even worst than I thought, since Blackpool and Bristol stayed up!!!
demon_dog Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 So who do you have in mind? I would like to know! At the moment don't have anyone in mind, my brains addled, can't take it all in, I need a drink!!
CKB Posted 7 May 2008 Posted 7 May 2008 Ian Holloway has ruined our club's history forever! I will never forgive him for that. Stick with him though, he will get us back into the Championship That just cracks me up in it's own right! Anyhow as for Ollie staying or going? well about a month ago i'd have said stay for 3 months, trouble is in that month Ollie has enraged me with his attitude, decisions and tactics and Sunday's game summed it up for me when we need a goal and he brings on a striker with 6 mins left.. I have never known a manager to go through so many bloody formation changes aswell, 4-5-1, 4-3-3, 4-4-2 all in the space of about 15 mins! I was a big Holloway fan once, i really admired what he did from a far, but unfortunately for me my admiration kinda died, don't get me wrong i'd support the team if he stays on and would rather have him than Dowie, but if i was looking at someone now it would be Billy Davies for me, yes we are league 1 but i reckon he would come if offered the job.. I love managers with abit of zanyness in them, ala Allen, Holloway, etc..but i think it's time now we get someone in that's tries to do the talking on the pitch
maddog Posted 9 May 2008 Author Posted 9 May 2008 Seems like a lot of fans want to stick with Ollie, dare i say more than sacking him http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A35754492 We shall have to wait till Monday
The People's Hero Posted 9 May 2008 Posted 9 May 2008 Now is the time to be eating hobnobs in the face of adversity.
maddog Posted 9 May 2008 Author Posted 9 May 2008 Now is the time to be eating hobnobs in the face of adversity.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 9 May 2008 Posted 9 May 2008 Now is the time to be eating hobnobs in the face of adversity. We've literally got one left. It is a chocolate one, so there's still hope
step Posted 9 May 2008 Posted 9 May 2008 We have a manager who knows the players and has got a team promoted from League 1 before. Yes he should have been sacked games ago to save us in the Championship but now he is the best choice.We will not find anyone better, simple. I fear a relegation battle down to League 2 will be looming if we sack Ollie. Like i say name me a good manager, with experience and success in this League who will come to our club now with trigger happy mandy at the helm, who is better than Holloway and who will get us promoted in 1 season? Just as i thought, no one can name a better alternative. Utter trash, Holloway, dont know the players strengths or how to motivate them. Ollie has succeded once in a lifetime Ollie = relegation to league 2 Anyone would better than ollie A better alternative is a manager that can get points average above 1.1 per game. 95% of the managers get a points average that way higher that 1.1 Get rid of him
maddog Posted 11 May 2008 Author Posted 11 May 2008 Only 1 day and we will know if he's gone or not. The Observer rekon he will be Ian Holloway will be sacked as manager of Leicester City when he meets with chairman Milan Mandaric tomorrow. (The Observer) And as a pretty formal newspaper, they are less likely to make shit up.
maddog Posted 12 May 2008 Author Posted 12 May 2008 So Milan has stuck by the manager, probably the best decision he has made. Will you?
renards Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 So Milan has stuck by the manager, probably the best decision he had made.Will you? Not a chance.
Chimp Posted 12 May 2008 Posted 12 May 2008 So Milan has stuck by the manager, probably the best decision he has made.Will you? That's not something we can answer at the moment. If, during the start of next season we see the same bizarre squad selections, the same inept substitutions and tactics, the same passing-the-buck attitude, the same exclusion of our better players in favour of his favourites, the same inconsistency etc etc as we did this season then, of course, we're not going to have any faith in him. If, on the other hand, he can show us he is capable of changing, of learning from his mistakes, of making the right decisions at the right time, of being capable to cultivate a confident and winning mentality within the squad etc etc then, of course, we'll start to have faith in him. Holloway has, rightfully, lost our respect due to his failings at managing our team. None of us want to see Holloway go just for the sake of it, we have very real concerns. If he can address these failings then all's good. If he can't and we find ouselves struggling in League 1 then what possible reason could there be for 'sticking by him'?
maddog Posted 12 May 2008 Author Posted 12 May 2008 That's not something we can answer at the moment.If, during the start of next season we see the same bizarre squad selections, the same inept substitutions and tactics, the same passing-the-buck attitude, the same exclusion of our better players in favour of his favourites, the same inconsistency etc etc as we did this season then, of course, we're not going to have any faith in him. If, on the other hand, he can show us he is capable of changing, of learning from his mistakes, of making the right decisions at the right time, of being capable to cultivate a confident and winning mentality within the squad etc etc then, of course, we'll start to have faith in him. Holloway has, rightfully, lost our respect due to his failings at managing our team. None of us want to see Holloway go just for the sake of it, we have very real concerns. If he can address these failings then all's good. If he can't and we find ouselves struggling in League 1 then what possible reason could there be for 'sticking by him'? Sadly Lackzo and Bori have ended their loan spells. They would have been worth signing. Going off topic did you see Fulop playing for Sunderland V Arsenal at weekend? Go Fulop
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