Now is the time to stick by the manager

[Thracian]

I'm sure had we conceeded a late goal from trying to get a win - with Southampton only drawing there'd the critiscism would be the same.

It was the preverable catch 22 situation.

No it wasn't but that sort of thinking is exactly what's done for us.

[Number 6]

I think we should have gone out and attacked Stoke from the off. We have beaten big teams this season and could have really made them edgy if we went all out against them. Having said that there were points in the match where S'oton were losing/drawing and all I could think was please let us hang on for the draw. We did hit the post and force two outstanding saves remember.

EDIT: I think it's almost the hardest position to be in (1 place above the drop), at least if you were S'oton you have nothing to lose.

[Manwell Pablo]

I'm sure had we conceeded a late goal from trying to get a win - with Southampton only drawing there'd the critiscism would be the same.

It was the preverable catch 22 situation.

I do, in a way, agree with what your saying. But we should of given ourselves a chance of winning the game by playing a formation which could of least been considered netural. We were permantly on the back foot in the first half, whenever we cleared our lines the ball came back at us because we had no one pushing out into offensive positions Howard and Hayles were ridiculously deep all game. We had 11 men behind the ball far too often and even then the defending was often last ditch. He made a mistake and not fir the first time this season. But well done Mr Holloway you got your draw, and hopefully your P45 N'all!

[The People's Hero]

Now is NOT the time to stick by the manager.

Now is the time to forget football for a few months, have a couple of beers in the local beer garden and tell yourselves that your life is on the slide because that's how you like it - and it's a controlled slide.

[BigGibbo]

Now is NOT the time to stick by the manager.

Now is the time to forget football for a few months, have a couple of beers in the local beer garden and tell yourselves that your life is on the slide because that's how you like it - and it's a controlled slide.

Exactly

[davieG]

Let's hope IF he stays history doesn't repeat itself more than it already appears to be doing>

Queens Park Rangers

In February 2001, midway through the 2000-01 season, Holloway was appointed manager of QPR, where he was given the seemingly impossible task of keeping the now-struggling team in Division One. He failed to do so, as QPR finished second from bottom and were relegated to the third level for the first time in 34 years. Despite the relegation, Holloway stayed on and rebuilt the side. After steadying the ship in 2001-02, and a near miss in 2002-03, Holloway and QPR were promoted back to the second level in 2004, finishing second behind Plymouth Argyle.

It took him 3 years to get QPR back to the Championship, different team, players, era but similarity is too close to countenance.

[teblin]

Let's hope IF he stays history doesn't repeat itself more than it already appears to be doing>

Queens Park Rangers

In February 2001, midway through the 2000-01 season, Holloway was appointed manager of QPR, where he was given the seemingly impossible task of keeping the now-struggling team in Division One. He failed to do so, as QPR finished second from bottom and were relegated to the third level for the first time in 34 years. Despite the relegation, Holloway stayed on and rebuilt the side. After steadying the ship in 2001-02, and a near miss in 2002-03, Holloway and QPR were promoted back to the second level in 2004, finishing second behind Plymouth Argyle.

It took him 3 years to get QPR back to the Championship, different team, players, era but similarity is too close to countenance.

Correct me if i'm wrong but i think the first of those years OPR were in administration.

This decision has to be spot on, we don't want to be hanging around in this league for 3 years.

[Eastern Fox]

I'm sure had we conceeded a late goal from trying to get a win - with Southampton only drawing there'd the critiscism would be the same.

It was the preverable catch 22 situation.

It wasn't a catch 22, the situation simply was that we needed to beat Stoke to ensure that we stayed in the Championship. There was no situation where we could have won at Stoke and been relegated. But instead of playing to win, Ian Holloway played a defensive game and hoped that he would get lucky and Southampton would lose at home. That decision alone is enough to justify his sacking. Ian Holloway wasn't appointed as manager to be responsible for Southampton's results, he is responsible for Leicester's alone, and on Sunday that meant playing to win, because that was the only way that would guaranteed we would stay up.

[The People's Hero]

I've just seen Davor Sukur and Hakan Suker holding hands in front of the Walkers Stadium.

It can't be.... can it?

[Webbo]

It wasn't a catch 22, the situation simply was that we needed to beat Stoke to ensure that we stayed in the Championship. There was no situation where we could have won at Stoke and been relegated. But instead of playing to win, Ian Holloway played a defensive game and hoped that he would get lucky and Southampton would lose at home. That decision alone is enough to justify his sacking. Ian Holloway wasn't appointed as manager to be responsible for Southampton's results, he is responsible for Leicester's alone, and on Sunday that meant playing to win, because that was the only way that would guaranteed we would stay up.

People on here never cease to amaze me. They seem to believe that all we have to do is want to win and every thing will be alright.

You do realise we were playing 2nd placed Stoke at their place, you don't think that maybe they wanted to win too? Perhaps we defended because they were attacking.

[davieG]

People on here never cease to amaze me. They seem to believe that all we have to do is want to win and every thing will be alright.

You do realise we were playing 2nd placed Stoke at their place, you don't think that maybe they wanted to win too? Perhaps we defended because they were attacking.

But let's not forget that they were also edgy and under tremendous pressure, as for us attacking, we played with an extra defender, Worley and with only one striker up front altogether a recipe for playing defensive football irrespective of what the opposition were doing.

[Eastern Fox]

People on here never cease to amaze me. They seem to believe that all we have to do is want to win and every thing will be alright.

You do realise we were playing 2nd placed Stoke at their place, you don't think that maybe they wanted to win too? Perhaps we defended because they were attacking.

The fact that we got into that situation was Holloway's fault, failing to beat some of the worst teams in the league at home like Colchester and Sheff Wednesday. I realise beating Stoke would have been difficult obviously, but Holloway tactics and team selection should have been less cautious and all out attacking. Our front two were poorly picked: Howard and Hayles did nothing except squander the few chances they had. Holloway put, Hume, our most effective striker in midfield. He brought on our only attacking options in the 85th and 90th minutes. That isn't trying to win a game at all costs.

Anyway, I was responding to a post that said Holloway was correct to play for a draw. I assume you think that was the right thing to do?

[josh_baskin]

Ollie should have been made to clear his desk after the preston game, that was well and truly the final straw and ultimatly the decider on which of the two teams was going to slide.

[Webbo]

Anyway, I was responding to a post that said Holloway was correct to play for a draw. I assume you think that was the right thing to do?

Firstly, it's your assumption that we were playing for a draw, I don't necessarily think that was the case. Secondly it was essential that we didn't lose which was a possibility against a side like Stoke.

[l444ry]

The main problem for Holloway was that when City attacked and played for the win, against a manky Sheffield Wednesday side at home, the team got hammered. To suggest they do the same away to Stoke is a bit of a dodgy criticism. Hindsight gone mad!!!

Holloway may be due some stick for some performances this season but I'm not convinced Stoke was one of them.

[Eastern Fox]

Firstly, it's your assumption that we were playing for a draw, I don't necessarily think that was the case. Secondly it was essential that we didn't lose which was a possibility against a side like Stoke.

Why stick with a front two producing nothing until the 85th minute then?

[DJ Barry Hammond]

I think this is the point i'm trying to make here too - early doors in that Stoke game the job was to build a platform to potentially win from - playing against a team looking at the preimership, with a big home crowd roaring them on - you don't want to be opening the game up, you want to keep it tight to give yourself a chance to win.

I added to that, that at around 50 to 60 minutes, with southampton just being pegged back to 2-2 and then shortly after going 3-2 up, i wouldn't have been sure what call to make. Mean second half, we looked a lot better, and were creating decent chances so one question would be why change things? With three strikers on the pitch anyway, going three up top wouldn't have been difficult, a sub was not necessarly required.

This is clearly not just the one game that sent us down, but given the situation, I think the tactics made more sense than some people are saying on here - but if you want to highlight a game where the tactics were completely shocking - S****horpe away, we possed no attacking threat all game, and didn't aspire to - despite Kisnorbo's disallowed goal.

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MON 1.86

George Burley's 1.85

Owen Coyle's . 1.76

Dave Jones's . 1.74

Dowie 1.74

Neil Warnock's 1.69

Glenn Roeder's 1.62

Tony Mowbray's . 1.61

Gary Johnson's . 1.59

Alan Pardew's 1.57

Howard Wilkinson 1.55

George Burley's . 1.53

Paul Sturrock's . 1.53

Simon Grayson's . 1.52

Mick McCarthy's . 1.48

Mick McCarthy' 1.48

Adrian Boothroyd's . 1.48

Kevin Blackwell's . 1.48

Neil Warnock's . 1.47

Billy Davies's 1.47

Nigel Adkins's . 1.47

Jewell 1.44

Tony Pulis's . 1.43

Steve Bruce 1.41

Steve McClaren 1.40

Jim Magilton's . 1.40

Jim Magilton's . 1.40

Brian Laws's . 1.39

Phil Brown's . 1.32

Alan Irvine's . 1.32

Glenn Roeder's . 1.30

Simon Davey's . 1.29

Geraint Williams's . 1.26

Luigi De Canio's . 1.22

Holloway at Leicester 1.09

The points average per game says it all

Ollie out

[colbo68]

After thinking about it we really should keep Holloway for next season. He knows the players and i can't see any new manager coming in and getting us promoted straight away. No good managers will want to come to us now. Ollie got QPR promoted from League 1 so he is our best bet.

Name me a good alternative that will get us out of League 1 in one season?

Davies and Allardyce won't want to come here now.

Now is the time for stability, i know some fans are saying get rid of all the losers that took us down but we shouldn't let them escape.

They are all under contract and can get us out of this mess.

Our strikers in League 1 now look superb, Fryatt, Howard, Campbell, Hume could all bag 20 goals easily in my view.

I'm angry and devastated Ollie has took us down but we should stick with him. He knows the players and may even learn from his mistakes and sign players who are hungry to play for the shirt. I'm sure he will bring in more youngsters too.

If we do stick with Holloway i think we can storm League 1 and come 1st but sacking another manager could leave us in more relegation trouble.

If Dowie does come in and starts badly, signs the wrong players like Allen, we may end up in exactly the same predictament as this season.

Stick with Ollie and we will come straight back up.

your talking out your arse xx

[maddog]

your talking out your arse xx

The reason we got relegated this season was the constant changing of managers. We need to give a manager at least 1 full season to have any sort of stability at all.

I know it's devastating he's took us down but theres no need to sack him for it.

Give him a chance to get us back up.

[Corky]

The reason we got relegated this season was the constant changing of managers. We need to give a manager at least 1 full season to have any sort of stability at all.

I know it's devastating he's took us down but theres no need to sack him for it.

Give him a chance to get us back up.

What?

[maddog]

What?

You heard.

He's took us down and i've got over it now.

He was only here for just over half season for a start so you can't 100% blame him for it.

Why not stick with him and see if he can take us back up?

We never used to sack managers when we were relegated from the Premiership straight away.

It's a strange mentality with Leicester City now that if a player has 1 bad performance they are chucked onto the scrap heap and never make the squad again, and if a manager has a bad run of games he starts to lose the backing of the club, players and fans, and we seem to want to sack every manager straight away.

Quite frankly i'm just sick of another new manager coming in, i just want to support the same club and same manager for a few years before another one comes in.

It's time for stability now. At least give Ollie the first third of next season minimum. If we are still doing badly then, then we can get rid. Leaving us still plenty of time to recover for promotion/playoffs.

Theres no rush to just sack the manager straight away at all.

[Phlashman]

We have to look at the teams that are closest to our situation for answers, much as it pains me they are Leeds and Forest.

Forest, changed manager a few months before they went down and again a few months into their first season down. It wasn't until Colin Calderwood had a FULL SEASON this season that they've came back.

Leeds, under Dennis Wise (yes he's a willy puller) and his mate Pedro or whatever were stonking towards auto promotion even given the 15 point deduction right up until they changed the manger, which led to a turn down in results, but luckily Gary McAllister has managed to get over that and make the play-offs.

I think we need to keep Ollie.

We'll find out soon enough though. Milan is due back tonight, press conference has been called for tomorrow.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

It's time for stability now. At least give Ollie the first third of next season minimum. If we are still doing badly then, then we can get rid. Leaving us still plenty of time to recover for promotion/playoffs.

The only problem with above is, we could end up in the same sort position we did this season, sacking a manager a third in, new manager coming in, not his players etc, etc.

It needs to be a straight decision from Milan - does he still have faith in Ollie, not only for next season but the next three. If the answers 'no' then replace him with a guy who he will have faith in and let him set the side up in the close season to be a force next season.

Part of me does wonder why he hasn't been sacked yet - I know Milan's away, but a text message would do surely! I know the 'meeting' hasn't happened yet. If by this time next week he's still in the job then maybe, just maybe he will still be their come august.

[LE5 Chris]

I like the bloke and think he comes across as pretty genuine, but he's a shit football manager.

Yes Forest stuck with Calderwood, but it was Gary Megson who took them down. They kept him on and then were forced to get rid before he succeeded in taking them down to League 2 (they were 4 points off the drop). I'd be all for keeping someone for the sake of stability, if they didn't have the tactical ability of a walnut. I know what I'm hoping for at the press conference