Criticism of Away Support at Edgeley Park

[Fez of Mahrez]

I didn't mean to cause any offence in my comments about people sitting down meaning the atmosphere was poor.

We can't really help what goes on on the pitch so it's nice to read comments when you get home on the oppo's messageboard that our fans were good.

And yes, fans that sit and don't sing do frustrate me. I'm not going to lie about that. I don't blame them for it, it's their choice - but it's still frustrating. I enjoyed Sheffield United away, Barnsley away etc last season a million times more than any home game and the vast majority of aways. I enjoy it more when there's a good atmosphere. People go to football for different reasons. If I went purely to enjoy the football, I'd be suicidal after the last few years.

We do seem to have a disproportionately large amount of older supporters, female supporters, disabled supporters etc who regularly attend away games and I think that's something to be proud of to a large extent as they know, on the whole, they won't get any trouble from our fans. I wouldn't want anyone to feel intimidated by our own fans.

I think anyone could see we were harmless enough and the ones who complain about standing when it's people behind them anyway are the scum of the earth - and no better than some chav abusing our own fans for sitting down.

Sadly I think it will take a major incident far beyond the scuffle that happened yesterday before the club proactively looks to solve the problem of how different people want to enjoy the match.

[Bellend Sebastian]

I think what you tend to find is that the singing section of the away support try and gather at the back of the stand whether or not there ticket is there. This is so they can stand and sing and no affect the view of those fans wishing to sit down and watch the game.

Well I wouldn't argue with that, and if they genuinely don't want to piss people off then fair enough. The problem is though, if you're one of the displaced people, where the hell do you go? I wish I knew what the solution to the whole thing was. Having areas of seating and standing is the blindingly obvious answer, but I cannot see it happening any time soon

[Legend_in_blue]

I'm sitting here chuckling to myself.

This is the same situation we had when going to that wonderful seaside resort Blackpool.

It was unreserved seating there, so you sat where you liked.

It was bloody cold too. And no, there was no roof. And yes people stood up. So what?

You buy the ticket, it does exactly what it says on it. If it says unreserved, you sit wherever you want and you quit moaning about it.

Flippin' heck, it's a football game at some park ground. What do you expect?

Roll out the red carpet, supply a tin roof and cook some hot pies.

[Tevez]

I'm a fan like Milan.

[Legend_in_blue]

People standing up is part and parcel of all away games. I've never been to an away game yet where I've had someone sit down in front of me for long periods in a game.

It obviously depends on where you sit. If a corners coming in and you're a fair ways from it, people are going to stand up to see it. So when people stand up, you stand up. And you get on with it.

If people sit down, you sit down.

Obviously, if you sit at the back, there's a fair chance that you'll have people standing up in front of you for most of the game. If you're at the front, won't happen will it?

Do what the ticket says, get there early, especially if you're fussy about where you're going to sit.

I don't see the point of moaning about it. If you're late and there's a lack of seats available, then you can't really blame the people who are there already.

[Bryn]

People standing up is part and parcel of all away games. I've never been to an away game yet where I've had someone sit down in front of me for long periods in a game.

It obviously depends on where you sit. If a corners coming in and you're a fair ways from it, people are going to stand up to see it. So when people stand up, you stand up. And you get on with it.

If people sit down, you sit down.

Obviously, if you sit at the back, there's a fair chance that you'll have people standing up in front of you for most of the game. If you're at the front, won't happen will it?

Do what the ticket says, get there early, especially if you're fussy about where you're going to sit.

I don't see the point of moaning about it. If you're late and there's a lack of seats available, then you can't really blame the people who are there already.

I remember crying my eyes out as a little kid at like my first Leicester game cause the people in front of me at Filbert Street kept standing up and I missed us score twice

[Legend_in_blue]

I remember crying my eyes out as a little kid at like my first Leicester game cause the people in front of me at Filbert Street kept standing up and I missed us score twice

You've got me thinking now.

Derby away, 4-0 up in 15 minutes.

Now the away support there was absolutely mad. And rightly so. It was a right laugh.

We ended up moving closer to the front though because some of the supporters were getting a little too OTT with the celebrations that day!

[Corky]

good man, now it's nice to hear that some families are getting shown the right way to attend a football match.

I hate this new horn blowing 8 year old that originates with a blue Leicester flag from the North Stand, I did not need a flag to realise what being part of the club meant to me.

That is the club's fault. The club should try to encourage the kids to sing along with the songs and wave a scarf above their heads

[potter3]

I think anyone could see we were harmless enough and the ones who complain about standing when it's people behind them anyway are the scum of the earth - and no better than some chav abusing our own fans for sitting down.

There's always going to be people who enjoy the game more sitting down and not singing, and people need to respect that choice - but the sitters should also respect that some people will want to stand and sing, and shouldn't be so quick to complain if they sit near or at the back and there are people standing in front, especially when it's unreserved seating.

[The Reverend]

At the end of the day right, unreserved seating is exactly that - unreserved. You can sit where you want. BUT... there has to be some common sense involved. People who want to stand up and sing will go to the back rows as not to obstruct anyones view. Whats the problem in that?

And, if you want to sit in a certain place, then you must get their earlier, simple as. So dont go in early and sit at the back if you dont want to stand and sing. Like i say, common sense, but unfortunately for some that is lacking.....

[Simi]

Here's a question that I honestly don't know the answer to: When you buy away tickets, and there are allocated seats, do you get any choice whatsoever about where you sit? I don't know the answer, because one mate of mine always goes to get the tickets for the rest of us. We ended up right on the back row at Norwich last season and I don't think any of us had any desire to be there at all, and that was a game where there seemed to be a lot of issues over people being in the wrong seats, particularly people wanting to be at the back that had tickets for elsewhere. A friend of mine went to Derby away two seasons ago and swore never to go to an away game again having similarly ended up on the back row 'surrounded by wankers' (she has since calmed down a bit and has started travelling again). It seems to be a bit of a lottery, doesn't it?

When I buy my away tickets I always make a point of asking them to give me tickets near the back, often they seem to be ok about it, but at times they'll say they have to sell tickets in a certain order.

[Lovejoy]

When I buy my away tickets I always make a point of asking them to give me tickets near the back, often they seem to be ok about it, but at times they'll say they have to sell tickets in a certain order.

Whenever I ask they ALWAYS say they have to sell them in order !

[Simi]

Whenever I ask they ALWAYS say they have to sell them in order !

I would consider writing to the club, but I'm not sure they can have any impact on it at all.

[Daggers]

I would consider writing to the club, but I'm not sure they can have any impact on it at all.

I wrote very clearly all over my pre-booking sheet...but I never get tickets at the back.

[Guest]

Do what the ticket says, get there early, especially if you're fussy about where you're going to sit.

I don't see the point of moaning about it. If you're late and there's a lack of seats available, then you can't really blame the people who are there already.

Clubs are supposed to sell 90% of tickets in an area which is unreserved, purely for the fact that fans will turn up late, and that people like to leave gaps between themselves. To me, the stand behind the goal was at full capacity. Based on this, I blame Stockport for trying to make as much out of the travelling supporters as possible.

[Kilworthfox]

Clubs are supposed to sell 90% of tickets in an area which is unreserved, purely for the fact that fans will turn up late, and that people like to leave gaps between themselves. To me, the stand behind the goal was at full capacity. Based on this, I blame Stockport for trying to make as much out of the travelling supporters as possible.

I blame our supporters! The club does not deserve them, there all hooligans creating a racket with their standing and singing, and the poor stewards are only trying to help and make the game as enjoyable for everyone! If it was not for them piople would get lost and there would be unorganised chaos with people not finding their seats and siting in the wrong areas! I myself have found myself in the Lineker suite when I should have been sitting in SK1. I wish the moronic demons who attend our games understood this, and behaved in a civilised manor which was befiting our great club. I am glad that I am not associated with those scum! As I did not attend Stockport away as I had to get my lash finch on my list ticked. Never the less I will be at home to straighten out those who wish to defile our name along with the stewards, and on a side note see that set of great tits that I am missing, which I belive live near to Filbert Way.

SIT DOWN! SHUT UP! WATCH THE GAME! SUPPORT YOUR CLUB!SHOOOOOOOSH

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[foxaholic]

I remember crying my eyes out as a little kid at like my first Leicester game cause the people in front of me at Filbert Street kept standing up and I missed us score twice

From my experience of away gameswhich is considerable it depends how the team is playing everyone stands when they are playing well and remain seated when they are playing rubbish

[bocadillo]

Clubs are supposed to sell 90% of tickets in an area which is unreserved, purely for the fact that fans will turn up late, and that people like to leave gaps between themselves. To me, the stand behind the goal was at full capacity. Based on this, I blame Stockport for trying to make as much out of the travelling supporters as possible.

Not correct. I think you might be confusing this with 10% of capacity that clubs have to sell on a match-by-match basis, rather than as season tickets (n.b. this is additional to the 10% that they have to make available to supporters of the away club). Some clubs have Safety Certificates which stipulate that all seating must be reserved and can therefore have no unreserved seating at all.

The situation on Saturday was that we should have had reserved seating; all Stockport County's matches this season are reserved seating for both sets of fans - I have a letter from Stockport to back this up. In the event, when the tickets arrived at the LCFC ticket office they were accompanied by an out-dated and now-incorrect covering letter which said that seating would be unreserved ( have been shown this letter). By the time the error was discovered, the ticket office had told many people that seating would be unreserved and had sold the tickets in no particular order. On account of this discussions took place with Stockport and it was agreed that seating would after all be unreserved.

I think the Stockport stewards did remarkably well in getting everybody seated in the fully-sold stand. If only our supporters had been bright enough to use every seat without leaving gaps, their job would have been much easier - and there would have been much less distraction from the stewards having to ask people to move as the match progressed.

Finally, I'm not sure how Stockport can be accused of making as much out of the travelling supporters as possible. If they had wanted to do that, they would have stuck us in the side (a stupid place to watch football IMHO) and charged us all the extra £2 for the roof.

[bocadillo]

Clubs are supposed to sell 90% of tickets in an area which is unreserved, ...

Hi Lisa

I have read this again and now realise your point. I apologise for not getting it in the first place - it's clearly enough written.

From my response of a few minutes ago, you will realise that the reason that 100% of the tickets were sold was that it was never intended that they should be unreserved.

[Guest]

Hi Lisa

I have read this again and now realise your point. I apologise for not getting it in the first place - it's clearly enough written.

From my response of a few minutes ago, you will realise that the reason that 100% of the tickets were sold was that it was never intended that they should be unreserved.

That's ok, Boc. I think I posted on t'other forum my own thoughts last week.

At least I won't have to beat you up now!!

[Maybes]

Not correct. I think you might be confusing this with 10% of capacity that clubs have to sell on a match-by-match basis, rather than as season tickets (n.b. this is additional to the 10% that they have to make available to supporters of the away club). Some clubs have Safety Certificates which stipulate that all seating must be reserved and can therefore have no unreserved seating at all.

The situation on Saturday was that we should have had reserved seating; all Stockport County's matches this season are reserved seating for both sets of fans - I have a letter from Stockport to back this up. In the event, when the tickets arrived at the LCFC ticket office they were accompanied by an out-dated and now-incorrect covering letter which said that seating would be unreserved ( have been shown this letter). By the time the error was discovered, the ticket office had told many people that seating would be unreserved and had sold the tickets in no particular order. On account of this discussions took place with Stockport and it was agreed that seating would after all be unreserved.

I think the Stockport stewards did remarkably well in getting everybody seated in the fully-sold stand. If only our supporters had been bright enough to use every seat without leaving gaps, their job would have been much easier - and there would have been much less distraction from the stewards having to ask people to move as the match progressed.

Finally, I'm not sure how Stockport can be accused of making as much out of the travelling supporters as possible. If they had wanted to do that, they would have stuck us in the side (a stupid place to watch football IMHO) and charged us all the extra £2 for the roof.

Well thats not true. There was a group of around 50-100 people stood at the back in the walkway without seats Not that I care.

[The People's Hero]

*shakes head*

Steve Agnew will be turning in his grave.

[J.Lisemore]

i find it hilarious that they actually think there better than us!...all of a sudden because they filled up there 10,000 ground for a change they think they are at the same standard as us

[Corky]

*shakes head*

Steve Agnew will be turning in his grave.

When did Aggers pass on?