Absolute *** of our time Pt.MXXVI

[Dr The Singh]

The point is when someone reported the fact that abuse was taking place by asian men, instead of investigating it the complainant was sent on a diversity course. The implication being that the complainant must be racist because they raised the issue.

They should of been sent to a geography and religious education course, for foook sake asia is a continent, those men were muslims, not hindu, sikh, jain, budhist.   Learn to get facts right

It's not implied in that bit, but the fact that several groups of muslim men have been convicted of this crime is sort of beyond implying.

The conviction rate of muslim men in the indian sub continent relative to any other  faith is massively higher!!

[Merging Cultures]

It's not implied in that bit, but the fact that several groups of muslim men have been convicted of this crime is sort of beyond implying.

I'm a white Christian guy... Please don't judge me by what other groups of white Christian guys have done.

[Steven]

You will, Ken, you will..

The Oscar Wilde Sketch

http://www.montypython.net/scripts/oscar.php

[Webbo]

They should of been sent to a geography and religious education course, for foook sake asia is a continent, those men were muslims, not hindu, sikh, jain, budhist.   Learn to get facts right

 

It wasn't me who called them Asians, I was just quoting. The person probably didn't want to say Muslim so as not to be too specific and be accused of racism.

[Webbo]

I'm a white Christian guy... Please don't judge me by what other groups of white Christian guys have done.

I've never once said all, or even the majority of muslim men are rapists. I make no assumptions about anyone until I know them and I resent the implication. 

 

This argument is about a group of people in authority deciding that the abusing of white girls was less important than upsetting the sensibilities of ethnic minorities.

[Guest MattP]

It's actually quite disgraceful that the term 'Asian grooming gangs' has been used so often.

Why should the Hindu and Sikh communities be dragged into something like this that they have played no part of?

[Guest MattP]

6 more Somalians jailed today btw. Total of 40 years.

[Merging Cultures]

I've never once said all, or even the majority of muslim men are rapists. I make no assumptions about anyone until I know them and I resent the implication.

This argument is about a group of people in authority deciding that the abusing of white girls was less important than upsetting the sensibilities of ethnic minorities.

I know what you mean. But it is easy for others to not understand and suddenly every Muslim is molesting children. Which is why I said before, I don't believe including the religion, which does not encourage such behaviour, is not relevant.

Someone posited the point that not all other tightknit immigrant groups are doing the same as these idiots. Who knows? Who knows what is going on in white British communities? Clearly the police and authorities are not very clever.

[Merging Cultures]

6 more Somalians jailed today btw. Total of 40 years.

Not long enough.

It's actually quite disgraceful that the term 'Asian grooming gangs' has been used so often.

Why should the Hindu and Sikh communities be dragged into something like this that they have played no part of?

Or refer to them using their nationality, names etc rather than religion?

[ADK]

I've seen that photo but is there somewhere that the whole paper is published? Because without the full context we have no idea if the person who referred to "Asian men" was behaving in an insensitive way.

[bovril]

It's actually quite disgraceful that the term 'Asian grooming gangs' has been used so often.

Why should the Hindu and Sikh communities be dragged into something like this that they have played no part of?

 

How are they being dragged into it? You could say that about anything. "British football hooligans", "South American drug cartels". Nobody thinks everybody from that particular  religion/race/nationality are all like that, unless they're thick.

[Dr The Singh]

How are they being dragged into it? You could say that about anything. "British football hooligans", "South American drug cartels". Nobody thinks everybody from that particular religion/race/nationality are all like that, unless they're thick.

Just by using the term Asian, it brings people from my ancestry, all others from that continent into it. The fact that they are called Asian and I am referred to as Asian, I am being dragged into it, even though no sikh has been involved. It's an insult to marginally evolved society that the word Asian is used.

Just to give a balanced approach Amir Khan the great british boxer has been labelled Asian, I take no satisfaction as he has no affiliation to my background

[MooseBreath]

But it is easy for others to not understand and suddenly every Muslim is molesting children.

I don't think anybody has ever even considered the possibility that every muslim is molesting children, so that's absolute nonsense. When these crimes are happening all over the country, and Muslims are the perpetrators almost every single time, I don't think there is any justification for refusing to consider that muslim communities have a problem. Seems like you'd rather maintain a phony mask of false-morality than actually tackle the issue, which is pretty selfish given the horrific nature of these crimes. You can be pretty sure that a kid is being raped tonight at the hands of one of these gangs, but you'd rather skirt around the issue to avoid upsetting anyone. I seriously hope the authorities don't think like you do anymore.

[bovril]

Just by using the term Asian, it brings people from my ancestry, all others from that continent into it. The fact that they are called Asian and I am referred to as Asian, I am being dragged into it, even though no sikh has been involved. It's an insult to marginally evolved society that the word Asian is used.

Just to give a balanced approach Amir Khan the great british boxer has been labelled Asian, I take no satisfaction as he has no affiliation to my background

 

Fair enough if that's how you feel. I don't really understand why you would though. I suppose I'm just another middle-class white guy deciding what people should and shouldn't be offended by!

[Merging Cultures]

I don't think anybody has ever even considered the possibility that every muslim is molesting children, so that's absolute nonsense. When these crimes are happening all over the country, and Muslims are the perpetrators almost every single time, I don't think there is any justification for refusing to consider that muslim communities have a problem. Seems like you'd rather maintain a phony mask of false-morality than actually tackle the issue, which is pretty selfish given the horrific nature of these crimes. You can be pretty sure that a kid is being raped tonight at the hands of one of these gangs, but you'd rather skirt around the issue to avoid upsetting anyone. I seriously hope the authorities don't think like you do anymore.

I don't know about that, I've seen the black Friday crowds.

I'm not skirting round the issue. There is a problem, it seems to be with certain immigrant groups. There was a Pakistani group and now a Somali group. Apparently, their only common denominator was that they are 'Muslim'.

Was Savile Muslim? What about all the other white 'Christian' people who get caught? And those that don't? Are grooming gangs different?

It seems these crimes are happening all over the country, by many different people of different nationalities and faiths.

There is no false sense of morality here.

[Dr The Singh]

Fair enough if that's how you feel. I don't really understand why you would though. I suppose I'm just another middle-class white guy deciding what people should and shouldn't be offended by!

The fact that both hindu and sikh groups are lobbying with all media outlets to abolish the word, is enough to say it doesn't represent us!!

[Webbo]

It seems these crimes are happening all over the country, by many different people of different nationalities and faiths.

 

It doesn't seem that way at all.

[Dr The Singh]

I don't know about that, I've seen the black Friday crowds.

I'm not skirting round the issue. There is a problem, it seems to be with certain immigrant groups. There was a Pakistani group and now a Somali group. Apparently, their only common denominator was that they are 'Muslim'.

Was Savile Muslim? What about all the other white 'Christian' people who get caught? And those that don't? Are grooming gangs different?

It seems these crimes are happening all over the country, by many different people of different nationalities and faiths.

There is no false sense of morality here.

From the independant:

 

Various newspapers have quoted figures complied by The Times which examined the 18 trials mentioned earlier and showed that of the 56 people found guilty of crimes including rape, child abduction, indecent assault and sex with a child, 53 were Asian. Of those, 50 were Muslim and a majority were members of the British Pakistani community. Most of the victims have been white, although in one case several Bangladeshi Muslim girls were also abused. These were reported as being supported by research by two academics at the Jill Dando Institute of Security and Crime Science at University College London (UCL) which examined just two cases, involving 25 offenders.  

However, the picture presented by the academics, Ella Cockbain and Helen Brayley, is a lot less clear. "The citations are correct but they have been taken out of context," says Ms Cockbain. "Nor do they acknowledge the small sample size of the original research, which focused on just two large cases." They worried that "findings were being overextended from a small, geographically concentrated sample to characterise an entire crime type". Even their most recent work studies just five cases – though of the 52 offenders involved totals 83 per cent are Asian Pakistani, 11 per cent Asian other and 6 per cent white. 

 

Reason??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2739799/Why-millions-Pakistani-children-falling-prey-vicious-paedophiles.html

[Dr The Singh]

I don't know about that, I've seen the black Friday crowds.

I'm not skirting round the issue. There is a problem, it seems to be with certain immigrant groups. There was a Pakistani group and now a Somali group. Apparently, their only common denominator was that they are 'Muslim'.

Was Savile Muslim? What about all the other white 'Christian' people who get caught? And those that don't? Are grooming gangs different?

It seems these crimes are happening all over the country, by many different people of different nationalities and faiths.

There is no false sense of morality here.

Saville and these muslim peado gangs strategies are different, the pakistani types follow there ancestry traditions of whoring where 'white' paedo's isolate and abuse!!

[Steven]

Man who punched four-year-old so hard she was left in intensive care has been jailed for 13 years

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/man-who-punched-fouryearold-so-hard-she-was-left-in-intensive-care-has-been-jailed-for-13-years-9893932.html

[leicsmac]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/arizona-pastor-predicts-aids-free-christmas-if-all-gays-are-killed-as-god-commands/

 

Nutters like this would be funny if they didn't have people actually believing what they say.

[Rincewind]

There are people that would actually do it. What gives him the right to decide what his 'god' wants? If I believed in a god it would not be his. You could say my god is my conscience and a sense of morality. Calling for people to be killed because they are different is not on in my opinion.

[Merging Cultures]

There are people that would actually do it. What gives him the right to decide what his 'god' wants? If I believed in a god it would not be his. You could say my god is my conscience and a sense of morality. Calling for people to be killed because they are different is not on in my opinion.

 

It's totally disgusting, and he is missing out the new testament, which I know I have mentioned before... so I wont!!

[ElusiveEd]

This bloke........

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2861028/Shocking-moment-woman-punched-face-fellow-contestant-competition-win-car.html

[Steven]

Three police officers and PCSO charged over death of innocent man killed by vigilantes who thought he was a paedophile 

• Bijan Ebrahimi, 44, beaten and set alight by vigilante neighbours in 2013
• Four police staff have now been charged with offences linked to his death 
• Further 12 officers from Avon and Somerset Police accused of misconduct
• Police watchdog probing whether victim had six years of contact with force
• Mr Ebrahami died after he photographed youths vandalising his flowers
• He planned to give the images to police as evidence but they arrested him
• Neighbour falsely reported him as a paedophile, which was untrue
• Police took Mr Ebrahimi away in front of neighbours chanting 'Paedo'
• Officers released him but two days he was attacked and killed near home 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2862167/Three-police-officers-PCSO-charged-death-innocent-man-killed-vigilantes-thought-paedophile.html