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Absolute *** of our time Pt.MXXVI

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Thracian

Thracian

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If we (as a country) were in the remotest bit serious about drink driving then we'd have zero tolerance to any levels of alcohol,

IMO

No alcohol,

No cars,

No risks,

No shouting'

No swearing,

No litter,

No parking,

No jobs,

No late night transport,

No using the landlord's electricity,

No sneaking cobs in,

No standing at the football etc, etc, etc,

No - the biggest word in socialist Britain.

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Fez of Mahrez

Fez of Mahrez

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No alcohol,

No cars,

No risks,

No shouting'

No swearing,

No litter,

No parking,

No jobs,

No late night transport,

No using the landlord's electricity,

No sneaking cobs in,

No standing at the football etc, etc, etc,

No - the biggest word in socialist Britain.

No chance of you ever shutting up though, eh? :D

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Sir Fynwy

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I've never regarded myself as a "drink-driver".

Even when you drove home on a flat with sparks coming off the rim because you couldn't risk stopping and having a helpful police patrol stop to help you? Using the name of a friend as part of your arguement against my stance is pretty low, his death didn't change my views, people make their own choices, people driving drunk, on drugs, without passing a test, whilst otherwise incapacitated (my step-father drove for years whilst being epileptic and caused numerous accidents) or any other way that is likely to cause injury or death need stopping.

It wasn't the 'socialists' that started taking the police off our roads and put cameras in their place, the roads are now a free for all because the chances of getting caught for anything other than speeding or illegal parking are negligible.

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Thracian

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Even when you drove home on a flat with sparks coming off the rim because you couldn't risk stopping and having a helpful police patrol stop to help you?

:D :D What is it with some people and lone incidents? It's like saying because someone had a fight in the school yard one particular day in his life, they're a thug.

That incident was so out of character that even my nipper brings it up in family folklore. And even then there was damn all wrong with my driving.

Yes, I've far more sense than to trust my luck to the same degreee twice, but even whether I'd have failed a breath test remains open to debate. So far it's 3-0 to me on breath tests. And if that were Pearson's record with football matches no-one would grumble at all. :innocent:

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Daggers

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Is that because everyone has to drive slowly though?

16 miles in 5 hours

Yep(ish), that article bears little relation to my experience though.

There are jams, but no one gets stressed - men chat up women, women flirt with old men, the young blast salsa from overpowering stereos, conversations interupted by street sellers wandering the lanes of the otherwise fast flowing autopistas, the old tut and huff, the city breathes, the heartbeat continues.

But this is rush hour, this isn't fun time.

Traffic moves in its own idiom, it takes on a life outside that known here ~ it flows, it has life. And it doesn't have to deal with The Pedestrian. People dont cross roads, certainly not ones which have fast flowing vehicles. They'll cross back streets, they'll cross Argentinians but they don't cross vehicular arteries. Why would they? Old 70's Americana is cheap enough and petrol is cheaper than 'life in the barrio'.

But, at the end of the dia, they are culturally different to this country - drink drivers are conscious that they are driving pissed and factor that into their driving. From seven onwards, traffic flows freely - but slower than here, not because of volume but from consideration. Consideration for themselves and life which dances to a slower beat. No one eggs the driver on, no machismo encourages showing off through speed - it's about chrome, the height of your 4x4 and the amount of plastic in your woman's tits. The pace of life is slower, people are too wrapped up in experiencing the shared moment to be bothered proving a point through drunk speed.

I don't knowingly drive after drink anymore because I live here and the country has gone mental over it but I still believe that drink itself does not cause accidents, people's attitudes do. I drove pissed in Ven, I drove pissed here back in the day - but I drove in a controlled fashion because I knew I was affected by alcohol. I'll wager at least half the people on this forum drive over the limit 'the morning after' and don't think twice about it. They feel bleary and drive accordingly.

I've lost two bike mates to "drink drivers" and a third is paralised down his right-hand side, having lost half an inch from his leg. And then there was Janx. None of these accidents happened because of drink, booze simply made them worse because someone was shite at driving and/or life to begin with. It's our culture, God bless it. We are shit. We are a nation of Formula One wannabies making a bee line to the red line. To the dead line.

And while it continues we can't tollerate drink driving, as much as I don't believe that drink is the major problem.

Which brings me onto the next quote...

If we (as a country) were in the remotest bit serious about drink driving then we'd have zero tolerance to any levels of alcohol,

Or that. I totally agree.

No chance of you ever shutting up though, eh? :D

lol

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Thracian

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You've done it again!! You've taken the one subject (dangerous driving) and turned into a crusade against the government on a whole multitude of issues.

Victims are becoming more involved in the process, and we have come full circle from the 18th century on this.

Report

And it's not human rights that have determined prison sentences, as most have been set for many years, pre-dating the HRA.

Therapeutic it may be but I cannot see any way that has affected sentencing.

And as usual you ignore the important issues I've raised - like imposing sentences that will permanently protect people from the sort of criminals I've mentioned, and explaining to me how the Labour government is being tough on crime and on criminals?

Cos I've yet to see it.

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Therapeutic it may be but I cannot see any way that has affected sentencing.

And as usual you ignore the important issues I've raised - like imposing sentences that will permanently protect people from the sort of criminals I've mentioned, and explaining to me how the Labour government is being tough on crime and on criminals?

Cos I've yet to see it.

Most criminals are locked up. The cock-ups are a small percentage, and consequently make the news. Then we all think the system is forked up.

The media is backing the other lot at the moment, and so will report to reflect that. The fact that the other lot won't come in and make any difference at all isn't worth arguing over.

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Thracian

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Most criminals are locked up. The cock-ups are a small percentage, and consequently make the news. Then we all think the system is forked up.

The media is backing the other lot at the moment, and so will report to reflect that. The fact that the other lot won't come in and make any difference at all isn't worth arguing over.

I've no idea what any "other lot" will accomplish. But they'd be hard pushed to match the harm done by this lot.

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http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article.aspx?...mentid=16375667

<h1 class="article_title">Blasts kill 16 children in Pakistan</h1>

Sixteen children have been killed in two separate bomb incidents in Pakistan over the weekend, including one with a bomb hidden inside a football. Violence has increased in the region as Taliban fighters have extended their reach. Western allies, needing Pakistan's help to defeat al Qaeda and stabilise neighbouring Afghanistan, fear the country is in danger of sliding into chaos. The grenade exploded in a car carrying a couple and their eight children near Datta Kheil, a district in the North Waziristan tribal region, near the Afghan border. Mirbad Khan, a hospital official in Miranshah, the main town of North Waziristan, said: "The parents and four of their children died instantly and their bodies were brought to hospital. Four other children were wounded." Authorities are unsure whether the parents were carrying the grenade, or if it was planted in the car. North Waziristan is one of the major sanctuaries for al Qaeda and Taliban militants in Pakistani border areas with Afghanistan. On Saturday, twelve children were killed when they were playing with a bomb hidden in a football and it exploded in Lower Dir, a mountainous, district 260 km northeast of Miranshah. The children, five of them girls, found the ball as they were returning from school. Seven victims belonged to the same family.

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Vile scum the lot of them.

Sincerely hope they get theirs in prison, and I'm sure they'll be plenty more than happy to oblige inside. It's going to be a long, hard sentence for all three of them and I hope they spend every waking hour of it fearing for their safety.

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As a result of my recent promotion, I shall be in regular contact with a number of judges.

I bet most of them come from a background where child abuse is often taken for granted.

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The total Bastard scum low life Mother and Step Father who starved that beautiful 7 year old girl to death over months in Birmingham. How the fook can this happen in Britain in 2009??? Did she not go to school or see any family? Im stunned, truely stunned at what Ive just read. :cry: Im glad the other children have been saved but wish one of the dumb fook neighbours that heard screams in the night and saw her "looking like a bag of bones" had bothered to report it/made someone listen before it was too late for the poor mite.

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