Hendo or Martin?

[The Blur]

As I mentioned in the other thread it would be better in long term run if Hendo was picked to form more of an understanding with his defence

Hendo looked composed enough last tuesday and he is reliable. I'm grateful that he dislodged Douglas from no.1 jersey so that is an other brownie point for him

[Mark]

Martin plays as he is clearly in more control of the defence than Henderson.

He is constantly watching things and shouting out instructions, anyone there today should have noticed.

[Father Ted]

Martin plays as he is clearly in more control of the defence than Henderson.

He is constantly watching things and shouting out instructions, anyone there today should have noticed.

NO! That is why we struggle with Martin in goal! No communication at all with him. We got lucky today, his stupid punch nearly cost us, as did a time when he dwelled on the ball and he just cleared it. What does Hendo have to do to get in!!!!! Hendo - Every game he's played = clean sheets. Martin = only 2 clean sheets. Stats and facts don't lie.

[Jimmy]

Martin has also played against better opposition

[Father Ted]

Martin has also played against better opposition

Stockport, Leyton Orient, Millwall.

[Jimmy]

Stockport, Leyton Orient, Millwall.

and Fulham

to Hendo's Franchise, Hartlepool and Lincoln

[davieG]

Stockport, Leyton Orient, Millwall.

Raising the choice of goalkeeper as an issue after today's game strikes me as being somewhat obsessive and irrational considering the major problem was our inability to build on the early goal.

[Fox Genius]

Presumably there must be a clause in the Martin loan deal whereby he has to play so many games? That's the only reason I can think of. Expect that Liverpool would insist on this, otherwise it could be a worthless loan for them.

[ibbosuk]

Martin has only been picked - by Pearson and by people on here - because he's new to the toybox just like Nielson last season and not because he has ever earned his place.

Had Pearson bought in someone like Fulop I'd have had some sympathy but I've seen no evidence at all that Martin is better than Henderson who, despite Pearson's published view of him, has rarely let the team down in all the time he's been here.

Okay, Henderson's never going to be a Shilton, Banks or even a Fulop but neither is Martin and I see no reason why Henderson should play second fiddle to the loanee.

Nothing between these two keepers imo, but as Martin is only here on a short term loan, Pearson I feel, is under preasure to keep both here for as long as possible so is playing him. This makes very good sense I think....

[misiuj]

Nothing between these two keepers imo, but as Martin is only here on a short term loan, Pearson I feel, is under preasure to keep both here for as long as possible so is playing him. This makes very good sense I think....

Cisak off to play for Australia U/20 in Asian cup - should get the chance to feature in the 1st team if he does well over there.

[General Smuts]

Its all about Arran Lee-Barrett.

After the two games he's had against us and the bias i have towards knowing his brother we should clearly sign him up.

[Fox92]

Martin plays as he is clearly in more control of the defence than Henderson.

He is constantly watching things and shouting out instructions, anyone there today should have noticed.

Totally agree with that.

Henderson doesn't know where his nets are either which is really poor and can't kick it with his left foot either.

Henderson has always been a back-up goalkeeper apart from when he was at Bradford which really says something.

When you buy a goalkeeper from Bradford or loan one from Liverpool really states it all.

This loan move will do Martin good and for the person that said he will never play for Liverpool is correct, because of all the foriegn players. The English talent gets overlooked.

[Fox92]

NO! That is why we struggle with Martin in goal! No communication at all with him. We got lucky today, his stupid punch nearly cost us, as did a time when he dwelled on the ball and he just cleared it. What does Hendo have to do to get in!!!!! Hendo - Every game he's played = clean sheets. Martin = only 2 clean sheets. Stats and facts don't lie.

Henderson nearly cost us at Stockport when he missed a cross.

He cost us 3 points at Sheffield United last season which might have been vital.

I don't usually blame the goalkeeper because you really can't but (at Bramall Lane):

Didn't get behind the ball from Beattie's free kick.

Didn't push Beattie's penelty away proporly.

Could have told a defender to mark Beattie when he scored with that free header, which proved his poor cummunication.

[Koke]

Martin plays as he is clearly in more control of the defence than Henderson.

He is constantly watching things and shouting out instructions, anyone there today should have noticed.

I noticed that and I agree. He's got a bit of a girly voice, but nevertheless, he was keeping his defence intact.

[Benjani]

I've heard a few people around say that Martin is scouse because he plays for Liverpool when he clearly isn't - he was born in London and started his career at Wimbledon.

Anyway my choice is Martin. Hendo is not quick enough around his area and cares too much about how is hair looks.

edit: It appears he actually started his career at Spurs before moving to Wimbledon.

[syston_fox]

Henderson nearly cost us at Stockport when he missed a cross.

He cost us 3 points at Sheffield United last season which might have been vital.

I don't usually blame the goalkeeper because you really can't but (at Bramall Lane):

Didn't get behind the ball from Beattie's free kick.

Didn't push Beattie's penelty away proporly.

Could have told a defender to mark Beattie when he scored with that free header, which proved his poor cummunication.

The same cross that went straight out of play and not even close to the goal or anyother player?

Why does everyone hark back to that sheffield united game? It was one dodgy performance in 9 months!!!

[Lovejoy]

I've always thought Hendo was under-rated by our various coaches, and I thought he played well in his stint at the tail end of last season, bar a

mistake or two.

[Ric Flair]

Both are relatively shit in my opinion. By far our weakest link in the squad, but with a very good defence, the problem is masked over in the majority of matches.

[Paddy]

Henderson nearly cost us at Stockport when he missed a cross.

He cost us 3 points at Sheffield United last season which might have been vital.

I don't usually blame the goalkeeper because you really can't but (at Bramall Lane):

Didn't get behind the ball from Beattie's free kick.

Didn't push Beattie's penelty away proporly.

Could have told a defender to mark Beattie when he scored with that free header, which proved his poor cummunication.

I think you'll find no matter who is in goal, at some point they will cost us points. Going on about 1 piss poor game last season where "the goalkeeper" cost us 3 vital points is pointless. Our strikers cost us most points last season by not finding the back of the fooking net often enough.

beatties free kick took a deflection off mcAuley only feet away from Hendo, (when martin was in goal against fulham for deflected goals people said he was unlucky, why did he not get blamed?) you can't blame a keeper for not 'pushing the ball away from a penalty! Have u ever tried saving one? Your lucky if u guess the correct way! And Hendo seems to be good at peno's, saving 4 last season and 2 so far this season. We should of reacted quicker after the penalty.

Martin has 'nearly' cost us a few times this season, (handling outside the area/punching from front post straight across goal to back post/poor kicking...) they will both make mistakes, as will every other keeper in professional football.

But as Henderson seems to be in better form at present, he should be given a chance.

[lildave3]

Both are relatively shit in my opinion. By far our weakest link in the squad, but with a very good defence, the problem is masked over in the majority of matches.

Agreed.

Equally shit.

[Thracian]

The same cross that went straight out of play and not even close to the goal or anyother player?

Why does everyone hark back to that sheffield united game? It was one dodgy performance in 9 months!!!

Absolutely. Fans are so selective. Some people forgot every mistake Fryatt made for two seasons in continuing to defend him when he didn't deserve it but, where Henderson's concerned, they have instant recall of his precious few major cock-ups.

Henderson has actually made some marvellous saves for City at times.

He'll never be our greatest goalkeeper but neither is Martin. To me Martin has been no more than ordinary in easy circumstances until Saturday when I thought he did enough to merit a fairly good mark.

Like DavieG says, Henderson's main fault is his poor and often slow distribution. Martin throws the ball out more readily but the kicking of both is often dire although I did think Henderson's had improved.

Both seem adequate goalkeepers for the League we're in and I imagine Pearson picks Martin because it would be hard for him to get the goalkeeping cover of a loanee if he wasn't going to play him and I imagine that Liverpool insisted that he get games.

Football is not always a meritocracy. Any more than other work places.

[misiuj]

Absolutely. Fans are so selective. Some people forgot every mistake Fryatt made for two seasons in continuing to defend him when he didn't deserve it but, where Henderson's concerned, they have instant recall of his precious few major cock-ups.

Henderson has actually made some marvellous saves for City at times.

He'll never be our greatest goalkeeper but neither is Martin. To me Martin has been no more than ordinary in easy circumstances until Saturday when I thought he did enough to merit a fairly good mark.

Like DavieG says, Henderson's main fault is his poor and often slow distribution. Martin throws the ball out more readily but the kicking of both is often dire although I did think Henderson's had improved.

Both seem adequate goalkeepers for the League we're in and I imagine Pearson picks Martin because it would be hard for him to get the goalkeeping cover of a loanee if he wasn't going to play him and I imagine that Liverpool insisted that he get games.

Football is not always a meritocracy. Any more than other work places.

then piss martin off back to liverpool and play Cisak as 2nd choice to Hendo - Clearly capable youngster who should have been given a chance by now - was in the sqaud several times last season only to be left off the bench so we could take 5 outfielders on the bench. the keeping position has been one cock-up after another over the past 4 seasons - 1st paying walker £35k a week to play in the championship, then to make the signings, not promote the right youth keepers (logan = wrong choice) - and not to sign kepeers of top quality = Fulop. Also taking shitty keepers on loan = alnwick + martin

[Thracian]

then piss martin off back to liverpool and play Cisak as 2nd choice to Hendo - Clearly capable youngster who should have been given a chance by now - was in the sqaud several times last season only to be left off the bench so we could take 5 outfielders on the bench. the keeping position has been one cock-up after another over the past 4 seasons - 1st paying walker £35k a week to play in the championship, then to make the signings, not promote the right youth keepers (logan = wrong choice) - and not to sign kepeers of top quality = Fulop. Also taking shitty keepers on loan = alnwick + martin

Pearson's made his choice for now. It's Martin and Henderson. We're fourth in the table and have been even meaner in defence than last year with seven clean sheets. That's some cock-up!

Why would Pearson want to bomb out either of his two goalkeepers, especially for an Academy player who's not shown anything unusually special that I've seen?

[misiuj]

Pearson's made his choice for now. It's Martin and Henderson. We're fourth in the table and have been even meaner in defence than last year with seven clean sheets. That's some cock-up!

Why would Pearson want to bomb out either of his two goalkeepers, especially for an Academy player who's not shown anything unusually special that I've seen?

keepers dont win leagues -

it is a cock up bringing in a keeper who is NO better than the guy he's come in to replace - it's a waste of money and costs the club in other ways, i.e- development of their own yth players - martin isn't gd enough to start for leicester city. period.

[Jimmy]

keepers dont win leagues -

it is a cock up bringing in a keeper who is NO better than the guy he's come in to replace - it's a waste of money and costs the club in other ways, i.e- development of their own yth players - martin isn't gd enough to start for leicester city. period.

but neither is Cisak, NP has shown he will play them if he thinks they are good enough, hence why Andy King has played every game