Zingari Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 Okay, i'm a mad conspiracy theorist but i believe the troubles in the middle east will not be resolved until the global puppeteers decide to do it . it's a playground for them with willing religious fanatics prepared to dance to their tune . Israel’s supposed arch-enemy, the terrorist group Hamas, was founded and funded by Israel’s dominant Likud party and continues to be bankrolled to this day by political bodies pushing a one world government system. This is not my opinion and I am not breaking an exclusive story. It is a documented fact reported on by mainstream news outlets and admitted by respected individuals within the US and Israeli governments and intelligence agencies. The objectives of Hamas dovetail with those of the Likud, no settlement at all costs. Whenever the prospect of a workable peace settlement between the Israelis and Palestinians arises, Hamas or one of their offshoots blows a bus, restaurant or a hotel to pieces. This gives Israel the justification needed to scupper any agreement and further entrench their occupation of disputed lands. All the outsider sees is carnage, death and a mainstream media that spins the issue so that these atrocities somehow represent the wishes of the Palestinian people. where will they want to play next ??
Finnegan Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 World Peace, all that's needed...Get rid of: America, the Balkans, Middle East and Ireland... ... South America, the UK, Central Asia, Russia, Africa and China while we're at it? fook it, mass world cull. We'll leave Bhutan, Canada and Tibet - that should all the world's problems.
Phube Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 ... South America, the UK, Central Asia, Russia, Africa and China while we're at it? fook it, mass world cull. We'll leave Bhutan, Canada and Tibet - that should all the world's problems. Don't forget Switzerland!
Edmund Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 don't usually get involved with politics to much but have you seen the leaked video NSFW - Reason why Israel aern't allowing the media in. The following video contains material of a violent, graphic nature. Viewer discretion is advised. http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Leaked_graph...ge_in_0104.html
Saladin Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 Okay, i'm a mad conspiracy theorist but i believe the troubles in the middle east will not be resolved until the global puppeteers decide to do it . it's a playground for them with willing religious fanatics prepared to dance to their tune .Israel’s supposed arch-enemy, the terrorist group Hamas, was founded and funded by Israel’s dominant Likud party and continues to be bankrolled to this day by political bodies pushing a one world government system. This is not my opinion and I am not breaking an exclusive story. It is a documented fact reported on by mainstream news outlets and admitted by respected individuals within the US and Israeli governments and intelligence agencies. The objectives of Hamas dovetail with those of the Likud, no settlement at all costs. Whenever the prospect of a workable peace settlement between the Israelis and Palestinians arises, Hamas or one of their offshoots blows a bus, restaurant or a hotel to pieces. This gives Israel the justification needed to scupper any agreement and further entrench their occupation of disputed lands. All the outsider sees is carnage, death and a mainstream media that spins the issue so that these atrocities somehow represent the wishes of the Palestinian people. where will they want to play next ?? You also need to remember how Israel was created. It is built on Zionist ideologies and was funded by a super rich banking family called Rothchild. Read this on the Balfour Declaration 1917. You should also watch this, there are 5 parts to it. I'm not asking anyone to believe anything, just watch with a open mind and make your own conclusion.
breadandcheese Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 You also need to remember how Israel was created. It is built on Zionist ideologies and was funded by a super rich banking family called Rothchild. Read this on the Balfour Declaration 1917. You should also watch this, there are 5 parts to it. I'm not asking anyone to believe anything, just watch with a open mind and make your own conclusion. Why don't you just link to the The Protocol of the Elders of Zion? Does the fact that it is a debased and fraudulent text matter?
Guest Bilo Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 Why don't you just link to the The Protocol of the Elders of Zion? Does the fact that it is a debased and fraudulent text matter?
Saladin Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 Why don't you just link to the The Protocol of the Elders of Zion? Does the fact that it is a debased and fraudulent text matter? Please do elaborate.
breadandcheese Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 Please do elaborate. Please. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a debunked anti-semitic text, which is believed to have originated in Russia. It has been proven that it is a falsified text, and has appealed to anti-semites throughtout the past century. Coincidentally, it is now a best seller in many Arab countries. I hope these readers in Arab countries don't believe it and treat it as the piece of fiction it is.
Saladin Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 Please. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a debunked anti-semitic text, which is believed to have originated in Russia. It has been proven that it is a falsified text, and has appealed to anti-semites throughtout the past century. Coincidentally, it is now a best seller in many Arab countries. I hope these readers in Arab countries don't believe it and treat it as the piece of fiction it is. I was actually talking about the Balfour Declaration. Like i said before make your own mind up on what you believe. I just thought it was relevant to highlight the fact that it was the leader of the Zionist Federation of GB that instigated the creation of the state of Israel. Don' get me confused with a anti-semite, I've got nothing against Jews. In fact some Jews are against the Zionist movement.
breadandcheese Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 I was actually talking about the Balfour Declaration. Like i said before make your own mind up on what you believe. I just thought it was relevant to highlight the fact that it was the leader of the Zionist Federation of GB that instigated the creation of the state of Israel. Don' get me confused with a anti-semite, I've got nothing against Jews. In fact some Jews are agains the Zionist movement. Fair do's. I thought you were referring to the protocols of the elders of zion, which should be debunked as the fiction it is and cast in the same light as the likes of Mein Kampf and other delightful racist treats. I tend to take the view that the Balfour Declaration was political manoeuvring by a country at war. 1917 we were in the midst of the first world war and would probably do whatever necessary to ensure a strong war effort. For that reason, I can understand why Britain would make deals all over the shop, particularly when fighting in the Middle East against the Ottomans.
BoneDog Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 Why don't you just link to the The Protocol of the Elders of Zion? Does the fact that it is a debased and fraudulent text matter? The Protocols might have been debased but there is some truth in there. And there is plenty of other stuff along similar lines that is proven fact. Those people are not a secret society or anything, they're totally out in the open. Just because 1 book or whatever it was is proved a fraud doesn't change history.
Guest Bilo Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 The Protocols might have been debased but there is some truth in there. And there is plenty of other stuff along similar lines that is proven fact. Those people are not a secret society or anything, they're totally out in the open. Just because 1 book or whatever it was is proved a fraud doesn't change history. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion, Library of Congress's Uniform Title; Russian: "Протоколы сионских мудрецов", or "Сионские протоколы" ; see also other titles) is a an antisemitic tract alleging a Jewish and Masonic plot to achieve world domination.The Protocols has been proven by respected international scholars, both Jewish and non-Jewish, to be a forgery, a fraud and a hoax,as well as a clear case of plagiarism. The forgery (Protocols) was also exported to Germany, where it first appeared in 1919 and was used by the Nazi Regime as a justification for their systematic destruction and looting of all Jewish businesses, the theft of all Jewish property, and the incarceration of all Jews in concentration and extermination camps with the goal of the extermination of the entire race by 1945, in what history now refers to as the Holocaust. Not only is the book a complete fabrication, it is among the worst examples of anti-Semitic propaganda in the world. It has been rubbished in the West for decades as the piece of cheap, tacky, lying trash that it is. There are plenty of words I would use to describe the contents of the Protocols but 'truth' isn't one of them.
breadandcheese Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 The Protocols might have been debased but there is some truth in there. And there is plenty of other stuff along similar lines that is proven fact. Those people are not a secret society or anything, they're totally out in the open. Just because 1 book or whatever it was is proved a fraud doesn't change history. You are sh*tting me. Some of the things David Icke said have happened. Doesn't mean I'm going to believe him when he says there are a race of lizard people from the fourth dimension controlling the planet, of which George Bush is one of them. The protocols of the elders of zion is a good old fashioned anti-semitic text. It's up there with Jews go around killing and drinking Christian blood. It is based on the good old fashioned sentiments of fearing what you don't know and making any scaremongering sound plausible, such that others believe it and spread the rumour. Anyone who believes it is an anti-semite. You can see the same process of rumour-mongering and fear going around today with some of the ridiculous claims thrown around at Muslims.
BoneDog Posted 5 January 2009 Posted 5 January 2009 You are sh*tting me.Some of the things David Icke said have happened. Doesn't mean I'm going to believe him when he says there are a race of lizard people from the fourth dimension controlling the planet, of which George Bush is one of them. The protocols of the elders of zion is a good old fashioned anti-semitic text. It's up there with Jews go around killing and drinking Christian blood. It is based on the good old fashioned sentiments of fearing what you don't know and making any scaremongering sound plausible, such that others believe it and spread the rumour. Anyone who believes it is an anti-semite. You can see the same process of rumour-mongering and fear going around today with some of the ridiculous claims thrown around at Muslims. I'm no anti-semite. Not sure if you were saying I am or not? Just because the protocols is wrong doesn't mean that the state of Israel are in the right. Most people in the world know they are not in the right, and haven't been for over 50 years. By the way, I don't associate the Jewish people with their leaders who make all the decisions so I'm not being racist. I love all people, I just hate wankers who blow people up whatever colour or race they are.
Ultra Posted 6 January 2009 Posted 6 January 2009 The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a completely discredited document - not least because the Nazis used it as a pretext for the Holocaust. Any Muslim or other group that seeks to revive it do themselves no favours whatsoever - especially as it gives Zionists yet another chance to play the "anti-semitism" card.
Guest Bilo Posted 6 January 2009 Posted 6 January 2009 The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a completely discredited document - not least because the Nazis used it as a pretext for the Holocaust.Any Muslim or other group that seeks to revive it do themselves no favours whatsoever - especially as it gives Zionists yet another chance to play the "anti-semitism" card. Would you not agree that some (most definitely not all) of Israel's opponents are motivated as much by anti-Semitism as a sense of injustice regarding the treatment of the Palestinian people? After all, Tibet is well and truly under China's jackboot and Sudan are slaughtering thousands in Darfur without half as much media attention.
Ultra Posted 6 January 2009 Posted 6 January 2009 Would you be saying the same thing if the BNP got into power here? In the VERY unlikely event of that happening, I'd be in exile. It would be the only way for me to survive. But even with a mere handful of councillors, the BNP is influencing the political agenda as the government seeks to undermine its power base by taking a tougher line on crime and immigration. If the government believes, as it does, that BNP supporters can have legitimate concerns then the question must arise as to why it doesn't take a similar line towards supporters of Hamas.
Ultra Posted 6 January 2009 Posted 6 January 2009 Would you not agree that some (most definitely not all) of Israel's opponents are motivated as much by anti-Semitism as a sense of injustice regarding the treatment of the Palestinian people? After all, Tibet is well and truly under China's jackboot and Sudan are slaughtering thousands in Darfur without half as much media attention. Neither China nor Sudan receive anywhere near the amount of Western aid, or have the same cultural links with the West, that Israel does. And given the role that the UK and the US played in establishing the state of Israel in the first place, we have to assume a large degree of responsibility for what has happened since. I don't deny that prejudice towards Jews is a factor among some communities in the Arab world and elsewhere, though its extent is often somewhat exaggerated by Israel and its apologists for their own ends. But there have also been many occasions where Israel, despite breaking any number of international laws, has not been subject to the same treatment as others (eg Iraq) who have done so. Such double standards breed resentment which can then be readily exploited throughout the Muslim world by the likes of not only Hamas, but Hezbollah and Al-Qaida. Whatever the eventual death toll in Gaza might be, those groups will not disappear any time soon.
shen Posted 6 January 2009 Posted 6 January 2009 don't usually get involved with politics to much but have you seen the leaked videoNSFW - Reason why Israel aern't allowing the media in. The following video contains material of a violent, graphic nature. Viewer discretion is advised. http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Leaked_graph...ge_in_0104.html Look at the site you linked to again...
Head Honcho Posted 6 January 2009 Author Posted 6 January 2009 Neither China nor Sudan receive anywhere near the amount of Western aid, or have the same cultural links with the West, that Israel does.And given the role that the UK and the US played in establishing the state of Israel in the first place, we have to assume a large degree of responsibility for what has happened since. I don't deny that prejudice towards Jews is a factor among some communities in the Arab world and elsewhere, though its extent is often somewhat exaggerated by Israel and its apologists for their own ends. But there have also been many occasions where Israel, despite breaking any number of international laws, has not been subject to the same treatment as others (eg Iraq) who have done so. Such double standards breed resentment which can then be readily exploited throughout the Muslim world by the likes of not only Hamas, but Hezbollah and Al-Qaida. Whatever the eventual death toll in Gaza might be, those groups will not disappear any time soon. You keep banging on about Israel breaking international laws..... How many instances of this do you have and has Israel ever agreed to abide by them? International law!!! What does that mean anyway?
Thracian Posted 6 January 2009 Posted 6 January 2009 You keep banging on about Israel breaking international laws.....How many instances of this do you have and has Israel ever agreed to abide by them? International law!!! What does that mean anyway? Not a lot to Tony Blair when he took us into Iraq. At least as far as I could see. Or was that technically some other law? I'm sure Lisa would know. But it seemed like one big con to me.
Head Honcho Posted 6 January 2009 Author Posted 6 January 2009 Not a lot to Tony Blair when he took us into Iraq. At least as far as I could see. Or was that technically some other law? I'm sure Lisa would know. But it seemed like one big con to me. So what are you saying? If WMD's were found you'd have no complaints about the invasion?
davieG Posted 6 January 2009 Posted 6 January 2009 Didn't the Romans kick the Jews out of Jerusalem 3000 years ago?
Hullfox Posted 6 January 2009 Posted 6 January 2009 Didn't the Romans kick the Jews out of Jerusalem 3000 years ago? No davie, that was the Baby Squad.
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