Wish I could steal £16k, get away with it and call it a mistake.

[Bellend Sebastian]

Oh dear.

It's a perfectly legitimate question. I had to dig deep into my own pockets and sell my collection of horse brasses to pay for my penis enlargement, so I too want to know when this bugger will hang

[James.]

MP's expenses online

Losing interest in this to be honest. Same old though really, initial uproar followed by a period of apathy. Soon enough I'll have forgotten the whole thing.

Anyway. Didn't realise George Galloway was my MP. Not sure what to make of that. On the one hand he's quite an interesting, charismatic guy, on the other hand he's clearly a bit of a cunt.

[Monk]

Yeah, he was mine also when I was in Bethnal Green. We almost wrote to him to appeal for help in my girlfriend's visa application (She had been denied a graduate visa despite having all the credentials)..... but decided against it when I remembered that he is a bit of a twat!

[l444ry]

Looking at Camerons expenses, it is little wonder he is a multi-millionaire - we are paying for virtually everything for him. Bus passes, taxi rides, paper clips, staple extractors, heating oil, his subscription to his local rag, his local newsletter and all other papers in the area and also his petrol are only some of the expenses he charges the taxpayer for.

One of the most revealing things is the fact the taxpayer is paying for the creation and the maintenance of his own website. The most comical, or disgusting, depending how you look at it, is the fact that he billed the taxpayer £564 for new pictures of himself. I am sure I could save plenty of money and climb the Times rich list if I could get someone to pay nearly everything for me.

Add this to the fact that we now pay his mortgage, a lot more than we should have due to him fiddling it so he could clear his own personal mortgage, and it is a wonder it isn't all over the papers. But, oh no...Camerons whores have used the Hear No Evil, See No Evil method to anything negative about The Peoples Millionaire. It hardly gets a mention. Not on their agenda obviously. Oh, and he has just remembered today - no honestly, just popped into his head this morning - that he had been overpaid by £947 by the Commons fees office.

This is the man who wants to be PM. He fiddles his mortgage and screws the taxpayer for anything from paper clips to pictures of himself, and the media fawn over everything he says. Apparently he says he is "sorry about the inadvertent mistake".

Who was it that bleated, "It is not good enough for MP's to say sorry and they were within the rules, anyone that is found in the Conservative Party to have misused parliamentary money will be thrown out" So Dave, when do you intend to resign?

Not to be outdone by his boss, Gideon Osborne wins the Most Stupid Troughing Award, beating the moat cleaner and the duck pond house. He claimed £47 off the tax payer for two DVD's of his own speeches. The title of the DVD's ..."DEBATE ON VALUE FOR TAXPAYERS MONEY"....UN****INGBELIEVABLE

[Webbo]

<All Tories are evil>

I think you'll find that all the govts' promotional material is payed for by the taxpayer too.

There are just as many Labour MPs involved in this expenses scam as well. To try and make a party political issue out of this is ridiculous.

[l444ry]

I think you'll find that all the govts' promotional material is payed for by the taxpayer too.

There are just as many Labour MPs involved in this expenses scam as well. To try and make a party political issue out of this is ridiculous.

Ah, but your hero isn't just a mere politician is he?

Do nothing, no policies Dave has now had to pay back nearly £1000 to the Fees Office, apparently for overclaimed numerous items. Oh dear, its an oversight! it’s a mistake! Same old excuses.

And this is the man who wants to get his grubby fingers on the national economy and cut public services. If he can’t manage his personal accounting how does that make him fit for the highest office in the land?

Nice to know that despite his wealth he needed national assistance to pay a few bills! Now, I know Cameron isn’t the only one but he imagines himself as Mr. Clean – clearly we would now be entitled to doubt such a claim!

[Ultra]

Once those old Bullingdon Club photos re-emerge, Cameron will be history anyway..

[stez]

And this is the man who wants to get his grubby fingers on the national economy and cut public services. If he can’t manage his personal accounting how does that make him fit for the highest office in the land?

in real terms, i think you'll find every party is going to have to cut money to public services. some are just more open about it than others.

[breadandcheese]

Once those old Bullingdon Club photos re-emerge, Cameron will be history anyway..

I thought you were against class prejudice. I didn't realise some class prejudice is bad, some is ok. Four legs good, two legs better.

[breadandcheese]

And this is the man who wants to get his grubby fingers on the national economy and cut public services.

I suggest you re-read the last budget. It is quite clearly written in the spending forecasts by this government that during the next parliament (Labour or Conservative), there will have to be large real-term cuts in public spending to try and get a handle on government borrowing. Alastair Darling, one of the few decent ministers in the government was quite clear and didn't try to sugar coat it, or make misleading claims as Gordon Brown has done. Ok, his figures on borrowing were grossly optimistic, which will be his undoing, but at least he's not lying to the electorate about the need for spending cuts.

I suggest you read the Institute of Fiscal Studies report on the last budget as well. It talks of how much each department will lose from spiralling interest payments, so that each department will have far less to spend on actual goods and services. It also talks about how the welfare budget cannot be cut, due to the need to pay unemployment benefit to an increasing number of people losing their jobs, so instead, even larger cuts will be needed from other government departments.

On this basis, the next parliament will have to cut public spending in a far more savage way than Margaret Thatcher ever did.

[Jon the Hat]

Ah, but your hero isn't just a mere politician is he?

Do nothing, no policies Dave has now had to pay back nearly £1000 to the Fees Office, apparently for overclaimed numerous items. Oh dear, its an oversight! it’s a mistake! Same old excuses.

And this is the man who wants to get his grubby fingers on the national economy and cut public services. If he can’t manage his personal accounting how does that make him fit for the highest office in the land?

Nice to know that despite his wealth he needed national assistance to pay a few bills! Now, I know Cameron isn’t the only one but he imagines himself as Mr. Clean – clearly we would now be entitled to doubt such a claim!

Oh yes he certainly will cut public services, and about time too. You will find yourself in the minority if you believe that a) they should not be cut b) Labour will not cut and c) we can believe anything Labour say about anything financial after years of utter incompetence and wanton profligacy. Not since.. of that's right the Labour government of the 70's has money been thrown at every cause in such a wasteful pointless splurge of taxpayers money.

You can continue to try and paint the tories as not having any ideas and as thieving gits all you like, but the fact of the matter remains your party have had 12 years to fix all of this and they have done nothing. So don't come around on your high horse with the Tories.

And for the record the amount Dave announced yesterday was circa £200, the other £800 having been paid back a few months ago.

[Jon the Hat]

Lets look at Larry's list:

Bus passes, taxi rides. petrol - Travel - entirely appropriate.

paper clips, staple extractors, heating oil - Office / second home expenses - and your problem is?

his subscription to his local rag, his local newsletter and all other papers in the area - keeping in touch with local opinion and issues - clearly a terrrible idea for an MP.

Creation and the maintenance of his own website, £564 for new pictures of himself - communications allowance t0 keep in touch with constituents in the age of the internet when people want to know things now. Shocking.

We know the second homes allowance needs reform, and about 400 MPs seem to have been taking the piss on that one.

I am sure I could save plenty of money and climb the Times rich list if I could get someone to pay nearly everything for me. - Not with that huge chip on your shoulder mate. And why would you want to when you so obviously hate the successful and wealthy?

[breadandcheese]

One of the most revealing things is the fact the taxpayer is paying for the creation and the maintenance of his own website. The most comical, or disgusting, depending how you look at it, is the fact that he billed the taxpayer £564 for new pictures of himself. I am sure I could save plenty of money and climb the Times rich list if I could get someone to pay nearly everything for me.

Looks like Alastair Darling, Yvette Cooper, Ed Balls and other Labour MPs have done the same thing wih £235,000 of taxpayers money.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/poli...icle6531834.ece

[l444ry]

Oh yes he certainly will cut public services, and about time too. You will find yourself in the minority if you believe that a) they should not be cut b) Labour will not cut and c) we can believe anything Labour say about anything financial after years of utter incompetence and wanton profligacy. Not since.. of that's right the Labour government of the 70's has money been thrown at every cause in such a wasteful pointless splurge of taxpayers money.

You can continue to try and paint the tories as not having any ideas and as thieving gits all you like, but the fact of the matter remains your party have had 12 years to fix all of this and they have done nothing. So don't come around on your high horse with the Tories.

And for the record the amount Dave announced yesterday was circa £200, the other £800 having been paid back a few months ago.

Do you Tory apologists deliberately miss the point or not understand what I am saying?

So... let's get this straight.

Douglas Hogg makes the mistake of claiming £2,200 for having his moat cleaned out. Opprobrium is poured on his head from a great height, and he is embarrassed into standing down at the next election.

Sir Peter Viggers claims £1600 for his floating duck house... and in addition to the scorn, he becomes a national joke, and he is embarrassed into standing down at the next election.

David Cameron claims just under £1000 for wrongly claimed items such as removing the wisteria from the chimney of his country home, and we are all expected to think he is some sort of bloody hero for confessing to it!

Furthermore-:

By astonishing coincidence, David Cameron has announced his repayment of £947.29 in inappropriately claimed expenses on exactly the same day that the (heavily censored) official details of MPs’ expenses were published. This larger story tragically deprived his own tale of much of the media coverage he had doubtless hoped for.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/ju...repays-expenses

His repayment covers the £680 claim for the repairs to his constituency home that the Telegraph revealed back in May (the wisteria) and that he’d already promised to pay back, as well as a few other smaller claims and £218.91 for mortgage overclaims that were made in error.

His statement started on the censored publication and then moved on to his own case (emphasis added):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8108004.stm

"…but I think we need a more common-sense approach to releasing this information and I hope we can do that in future.

As for myself, I’ve taken the opportunity today to, er – I’ve been through my accounts in great detail, and I have discovered an inadvertent error I made in 2006 with respect to some mortgage payments – an overclaim of £200 – and I’ve paid that money back today to the Fees Office, along with other announcements that I made previously. I’m very sorry about making a mistake like this, but I think the best thing to do when you discover it is to deal with it as quickly as possible.

…it took a long time to get to the bottom of this particular mortgage claim…"

As soon as I got the information to hand, I made the announcement today and I returned the money today.

It could be an innocent coincidence, although the hastily abandoned “I’ve taken the opportunity today” line (watch the video from about 20 seconds in) might suggest otherwise.

But let’s say that it did in fact take exactly this long to sort out the mortgage claim details. Why delay the repayment for the other things, most notably the wisteria clearing that came to light over five weeks ago? This sort of delay isn’t what he suggested when he said, on 12 May:

http://www.conservatives.com/News/Speeches...n_expenses.aspx

"I want to set out this afternoon the action I’m taking right now. … I mean things that my Party, the Conservative Party; Conservative MPs, the things that they will do – right now.

…

I will pay back the only maintenance bill I have claimed in eight years as a Member of Parliament."

He added:

"We need money paid back now."

Well, so far this looks like little more than standard politician’s slipperiness. But perhaps there’s more to it.

On 22 May, the Oxford Mail covered a public meeting that Cameron held in his Witney constituency:

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/4390913.C...amp;cid=7723598

Mr Cameron said he had voluntarily paid back £680 he claimed for fixing a leaky roof and removing wisteria from his chimney.

He said: “It was for maintenance not decoration, but I felt I had to take a lead and pay back anything questionable.”

But, of course, he hadn’t yet done any such thing. If this report is accurate, it does rather suggest that he was lying.

[breadandcheese]

Do you Tory apologists deliberately miss the point or not understand what I am saying?

The problem is you completely neglect any reference to Labour. You attack David Cameron for wrongly using taxpayer money, but you don't seem to lament that Labour are doing the same. The fact is, they've all had their hands in the trough.

As far as I'm concerned, this country needs primaries at constituency party level, to determine who is to stand for MP in a particular area at the next general election. This way, MPs can be made to answer to their constituency, who will make the decision as to their futures. Hopefully, this would also promote more independent minded MPs across the board, restraining the whips on either party and giving a little more strength to parliament.

[Jon the Hat]

Do you Tory apologists deliberately miss the point or not understand what I am saying?

That's right Larry.. he is rich and therefore must be tring to decieve you. BOOO! Couldn't be that perhaps he has more important things to do like leading his party and pointing out the incompetence of our current government. You know - the generally recognised as the job of the opposition.

We all know Cameron has used the opportunity to strengthen his position and that of the Tory party. Why does that upset you so much?

[Jon the Hat]

The problem is you completely neglect any reference to Labour. You attack David Cameron for wrongly using taxpayer money, but you don't seem to lament that Labour are doing the same. The fact is, they've all had their hands in the trough.

As far as I'm concerned, this country needs primaries at constituency party level, to determine who is to stand for MP in a particular area at the next general election. This way, MPs can be made to answer to their constituency, who will make the decision as to their futures. Hopefully, this would also promote more independent minded MPs across the board, restraining the whips on either party and giving a little more strength to parliament.

This is what is known as desperation. Labour are unable to talk about themselves becuase no one believes it anymore, so their only defense is the "yeah but look at the Cameron he is a toff!!" approach. Pathetic.

[breadandcheese]

This is what is known as desperation. Labour are unable to talk about themselves becuase no one believes it anymore, so their only defense is the "yeah but look at the Cameron he is a toff!!" approach. Pathetic.

Apparently, not all class prejudice is bad and people should be judged on their upbringing and where they're from.

Four legs good, two legs better.

[l444ry]

I must be bang on the money if you lads keep prattling on with your straw men you like to knock down. You'll catch up eventually.......

[Webbo]

I must be bang on the money if you lads keep prattling on with your straw men you like to knock down. You'll catch up eventually.......

Not really, you just appear unbelievably childish. You carry on though, I'm bored with this now.

[l444ry]

Not really, you just appear unbelievably childish. You carry on though, I'm bored with this now.

Ha Ha, Webbo. I'm deeply hurt by your barb. Got a touch of Cameronitis have we? He gets personal with Brown to avoid policies as well.

[l444ry]

Dizzy David Cameron wants bigger wardrobe to store his new policies

Tory leader David Cameron, who previously didn't have any policies, has recently accumulated so many that he needs additional wardrobe space to store them all, a confidante said.

The Tory spokesperson added:

"He's a policy-a-holic. He collects new policies on a daily basis. He doesn't know what to do with them all. He's been storing them under his bed, in his bathroom closet, behind the settee in his living room, but now he's run out of space."

Only this week, the fashion guru paraded his anti-rape policy before a bunch of applauding women. According to this policy, men who commit rape should be punished. Under existing laws, alleged rapists are given a free lunch and sent on their way, while the alleged victim is made to do the washing up.

In late April, Dizzy Dave, as he has come to be known in cat walk circles in New York, Paris and Milan, paraded an anti-immigration policy, under which fewer illegal immigrants would be allowed into the country. This policy was generally received well, though some critics called it a "size zero" and alleged there was "not enough meat on the bone".

Mr. Cameron has also introduced a policy dealing with inheritance tax, which rival designer Alistair Darling promptly nicked and pretended was his own. The latest addition to the Cameron wardrobe is a policy that says that local residents should be given a referendum on all council tax increases. This has gone down well with the Sun newspaper but has left many people wondering whether local residents should also be allowed to vote on council expenditure as well.

One local resident told us:

"I'm sick of voting. What with council elections, general elections, European elections and now cancelled elections, I don't get any time to spend with my family. I don't want to have to vote every time my council decides to wipe its arse."

Our friend and discredited psychiatrist Dr. Heinz Baked-Beanz told us:

"Zis business of accumulating policies reprezents vot vee in zee medical verld call psychological compensation. Clearly, ze man is compensating for ze fact zat he has a small veener."

[Jon the Hat]

I must be bang on the money if you lads keep prattling on with your straw men you like to knock down. You'll catch up eventually.......

To be honest, other than the chip on your shoulder I am not sure you really have a point to make?

Anyway, we will see who has policies, becuase this time next year we will have a Conservative government, and your boys will be looking for jobs in the real world, not to return for another 12 -16 years, and only then if they don't rip themselves to shreds handing the opposition to the lib dems. You can have all the policies you like, but once you have had 12 years to implement them and failed to do anything apart from waste money on every available opportunity, no ones cares.

[Hullfox]

To be honest, other than the chip on your shoulder I am not sure you really have a point to make?

Phew, I thought it was just me.

[hairy]

Now its your turn to claim some expenses back

Fill in your claim and send it to your MP. Incidental dog walking costs can reach £100 a day you know!