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Posted

just emailed the club:

To whom it may concern,

I am shocked and appalled at the club's decision to turn against the group who call themselves the 'fosse boys' in response to a handful of apparent complaints following the Middlesborough game.

The idea that a genuine supporter of Leicester City FC could even think of complaining that a section of our home support is too loud seems entirely counter-intuitive to me. I love Leicester City and I have few greater pleasures in my life than watching my team play. However, it is undeniable that the atmosphere in the Walkers stadium leaves a lot to be desired and to my mind this is the worst thing about supporting Leicester City (particularly when the away fans pick up on the fact and shall we say 'rub it in', for example at the home game against Leeds last year when for several minutes the away contingent chanted "your support is fooking shit").

In light of this I find it astonishing that the club would come down on the side of a few miserable killjoys and launch an assault on a passionate, loyal and self evidently devoted group of supporters who have set about trying to remedy the dismal atmosphere inside the stadium. Quite frankly I find it embarrassing that my football club would adopt such a position. The logical inference to be drawn from this seems to be that the club would prefer to fill the ground with the so called 'prawn sandwich' set who sit quietly on their hands and only open their mouths to whinge than with unerringly supportive, vocal fans. I can't imagine whereabouts in the club this sentiment arises because I am absolutely convinced that the vast majority of our fans, as well as the players and coaching staff would wholeheartedly disagree. In fact, the only interest that could possibly be served by the adoption of such a ridiculous stance is that of the away contingent of fans and players. Please rethink your position. You are damaging the football club both in limiting the atmosphere which feeds our players performances and in humiliating and alienating the very fans you should be trying to encourage.

Yours faithfully,

name

Posted

The concerns arising from this issue are so significant that it has motivated me to become a member of a forum. So enraged by this, I may even be forced to write a stiff letter...

First of all, when in Rome, do as a Roman. If some fans don't like noise, then sit in the sections of the ground that are known for silence. The kop has always been for the more energetic and lively fan. If the Foss Boys stood in the family enclosure, I could see that the Club would have a valid point. But this is not the issue of concern here is it. I think many fans will be concerned by this statement to you. I am deeply concerned about what is happening to our Club and the game we go to support.

Whilst the Walkers is larger than Filbert Street, for me, it has never managed to recapture the character or atmosphere of the old ground. Why? The government insisted that everyone sit and then with the move up the street, and the Club shifted the travelling fans away from what would have been the pens. But not satisfied by this, they do more.

In the 80's and 90's, I would have found something sharp to fall on if I thought that the pop music pandemic would have made its way over the Atlantic to stadia in the UK. I doubt anyone at the Club will read this, but if you want to create atmosphere at a football ground, let the fans sing when their team scores a goal. We used to sing, songs with many words - not just chants. I know that not every fan agrees with this, but loud music during a game creates a plastic atmosphere at football matches. If there is a concern over noise levels during a game lets be honest, and maybe review the past 20 years of changes made to the terraces. Even standing for a short time increases volume from the crowd.

But hold everything... new club rule: if more than 20 people sing together and stand whilst a match is in progress, they will be given a one game notice to stop. Good God, the very thought of it - singing and standing up! Those types will want Bovril back again - and then an atmosphere! We must put up ticket prices to discourage those types away. Find 20,000 fans who are willing to pay top prices and not sing and I will find you Fulham.

So, now, when a few supporters try to remind us all what it could be like - should be like - at a football ground, they are told to stop. Every time WE decide to show the club what it is like to stop supporting under dire conditions, some PR man pops up shouting, "Keep the faith"... and, "Foxes never quit!" I am fed up with this, especially now.

Without fans, like the Foss Boys, and every other punter that pays well over the odds to support our team (and 'enjoy' a sport in a phase of decline) the wheels come flying off the wagon, and the whole party ends. Let some stand and sing!

This Cub - our Club - must remember why it has managed to get to this point in time: for 125 + years, fans bothered to watch them play, and in days past, when they bothered, they paid some money which entitled them to sing and stand and have a good time.

In the stadium today, evict racists, evict f*!est fans, evict P£^"r T*&lor, even evict asbo proud chavs that wear their tags like a VC - but what ever you do, do not set another tax on atmosphere at a club that could - not so long ago - fill 2 or even 3 pens with singing fans, and then pack more in the East Stand, Carling Stand...

Over the past 20 years, the detrimental decissions affecting the fans - made by our own Club - have been so serious that during the quiet times in the games, I thought I have caught the muffelled rustle of my Grandfather's bones shifting in his grave. What he would make of the statement made to the Foss Boys would be un-publishable.

If the Foss Boys are not allowed to sing and stand, I believe it is time to stand and shout on Saturdays outside the ground.

Foss Boys, sing, stand, shout and bring the biggest flag you can find, and more power to your many elbows. If the s_^t hits the Foss fans on this one, then the rest of the fans must be ready to stand with you in the ground or with you out of it. You are bringing back to our Club what many fans miss about the game in England today.

I do not expect every City fan to agree with me, but at least I feel a bit better now.

Posted

to tht man u song " U N I T E D united is the team for me"

oh barclay

cant u see

u are recking footy

sit dwn shut up silence plz

prawn sandwich and a cup of tea :)

or

to the fernado torres tune " nah nah nah etc fernado torres liverpools number 9"

barclays recking footy wot a twat! twat!

thts all i have to say about tht! tht!

22 complained..... pause!

of the noise!

all because of the foosssee boys! :)

edit if you can make it better! LCFC

Posted

to tht man u song " U N I T E D united is the team for me"

oh barclay

cant u see

u are recking footy

sit dwn shut up silence plz

prawn sandwich and a cup of tea :)

or

to the fernado torres tune " nah nah nah etc fernado torres liverpools number 9"

barclays recking footy wot a twat! twat!

thts all i have to say about tht! tht!

22 complained..... Sshhhh!

of the noise!

all because of the foosssee boys! :)

edit if you can make it better! LCFC

Posted

Happy its going ahead again on Saturday, all the support is great. Hopefully there'll be a few more people singing and standing with the Fosse Boys on Saturday. :thumbup:

Posted

Got to feel sorry for the club staff today - having to read all those nasty wasty emails from the scumbags who come and make a mess of our lovely stadium every other saturday. Maybe it would be better if we didn't have any fans at all. Then we could have a nice, tidy, quiet stadium and we could eat our pre match meal in peace.

I know that the foxestalk community represents only a small fraction of City's support but it does seem like they have pricked everyone's concience with this action. Whisper it, but could this be the start of a revolution?

Posted

FosseBoysTopBoy has just produced the greatest post ever in the history of these FB related threads.

Own up, who was it?

Posted

The concerns arising from this issue are so significant that it has motivated me to become a member of a forum. So enraged by this, I may even be forced to write a stiff letter...

First of all, when in Rome, do as a Roman. If some fans don't like noise, then sit in the sections of the ground that are known for silence. The kop has always been for the more energetic and lively fan. If the Foss Boys stood in the family enclosure, I could see that the Club would have a valid point. But this is not the issue of concern here is it. I think many fans will be concerned by this statement to you. I am deeply concerned about what is happening to our Club and the game we go to support.

Whilst the Walkers is larger than Filbert Street, for me, it has never managed to recapture the character or atmosphere of the old ground. Why? The government insisted that everyone sit and then with the move up the street, and the Club shifted the travelling fans away from what would have been the pens. But not satisfied by this, they do more.

In the 80's and 90's, I would have found something sharp to fall on if I thought that the pop music pandemic would have made its way over the Atlantic to stadia in the UK. I doubt anyone at the Club will read this, but if you want to create atmosphere at a football ground, let the fans sing when their team scores a goal. We used to sing, songs with many words - not just chants. I know that not every fan agrees with this, but loud music during a game creates a plastic atmosphere at football matches. If there is a concern over noise levels during a game lets be honest, and maybe review the past 20 years of changes made to the terraces. Even standing for a short time increases volume from the crowd.

But hold everything... new club rule: if more than 20 people sing together and stand whilst a match is in progress, they will be given a one game notice to stop. Good God, the very thought of it - singing and standing up! Those types will want Bovril back again - and then an atmosphere! We must put up ticket prices to discourage those types away. Find 20,000 fans who are willing to pay top prices and not sing and I will find you Fulham.

So, now, when a few supporters try to remind us all what it could be like - should be like - at a football ground, they are told to stop. Every time WE decide to show the club what it is like to stop supporting under dire conditions, some PR man pops up shouting, "Keep the faith"... and, "Foxes never quit!" I am fed up with this, especially now.

Without fans, like the Foss Boys, and every other punter that pays well over the odds to support our team (and 'enjoy' a sport in a phase of decline) the wheels come flying off the wagon, and the whole party ends. Let some stand and sing!

This Cub - our Club - must remember why it has managed to get to this point in time: for 125 + years, fans bothered to watch them play, and in days past, when they bothered, they paid some money which entitled them to sing and stand and have a good time.

In the stadium today, evict racists, evict f*!est fans, evict P£^"r T*&lor, even evict asbo proud chavs that wear their tags like a VC - but what ever you do, do not set another tax on atmosphere at a club that could - not so long ago - fill 2 or even 3 pens with singing fans, and then pack more in the East Stand, Carling Stand...

Over the past 20 years, the detrimental decissions affecting the fans - made by our own Club - have been so serious that during the quiet times in the games, I thought I have caught the muffelled rustle of my Grandfather's bones shifting in his grave. What he would make of the statement made to the Foss Boys would be un-publishable.

If the Foss Boys are not allowed to sing and stand, I believe it is time to stand and shout on Saturdays outside the ground.

Foss Boys, sing, stand, shout and bring the biggest flag you can find, and more power to your many elbows. If the s_^t hits the Foss fans on this one, then the rest of the fans must be ready to stand with you in the ground or with you out of it. You are bringing back to our Club what many fans miss about the game in England today.

I do not expect every City fan to agree with me, but at least I feel a bit better now.

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Posted

If anyone running the club had a brain, you could almost credit them with some orchestrated reverse physchology. Maybe they thought "the atmosphere is shit, how do we get more people making a noise? Maybe if we tell them they can't sing, then it will galvanise the fans into action and more of them will sing?"

Or maybe not.

One of the problems, is that lots of fans refer to the club as "our club" or "belonging to the fans". Trouble is I don't think anyone at the club (or most other clubs for that matter) share that view. If City were in the Premiership then "paying fans" would contribute something in the region of £12m (rough maths) in tickets. Whilst this is a lot of money, considering they reckon that a season in the prem is worth up to £75m to the club, you can see how they come to the conclusion that the paying supporter isn't as important as he might think he is.

Can see the attraction in supporting a non league team these days. Now my boy is getting interested in football, I'll be much more likely to take him up to watch my local East Midlands Counties team up the road for £2 because of the cost of City and the attitude of the club.

Posted

You're in the Mercury, lads.

WE'VE BEEN SILENCED BY CLUB, SAY VOCAL CITY FANS

Page 2! Too long for me to type out, I'm afraid, and a lot of it just quoted from here anyway, including the bit about not being at the Reading game.

There's a quote from an LCFC spokesman saying that they are pleased supporters want to improve the atmosphere, and actively encourage the singing on pro-Leicester songs, and that they communicated that to The Fosse Boys in a recent meeting, before saying that everyone has to adhere to safety regulations. No comment from the club on the 'complaints'. Support from Jobber who describes you as 'young lads and very keen but not trouble makers', and said 'Obviously they have to toe the line but I hope between them and the club they can sort out all the dos and don'ts'. Lance Tomlyn also approves but says supporters 'have to stay within the rules'.

My two penneth is that as usual this is all about the ground regulations and standing. I cannot believe they club have been daft enough to say that noise is an issue - it's a mental PR own goal

Posted

A City spokesman said: "As a club, we are always keen to welcome comment and feedback from our supporters regarding all issues on and off the playing field. We are committed to ensuring that the best interests of the club are protected at all times and the recent positive developments are no different.

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/sport/Trust-meeting-City-s-new-owners/article-2570603-detail/article.html

This is in an unrelated article on the Mercury site. It neglects to mention "unless they are critical of the club in any way"

Posted

The concerns arising from this issue are so significant that it has motivated me to become a member of a forum. So enraged by this, I may even be forced to write a stiff letter...

First of all, when in Rome, do as a Roman. If some fans don't like noise, then sit in the sections of the ground that are known for silence. The kop has always been for the more energetic and lively fan. If the Foss Boys stood in the family enclosure, I could see that the Club would have a valid point. But this is not the issue of concern here is it. I think many fans will be concerned by this statement to you. I am deeply concerned about what is happening to our Club and the game we go to support.

Whilst the Walkers is larger than Filbert Street, for me, it has never managed to recapture the character or atmosphere of the old ground. Why? The government insisted that everyone sit and then with the move up the street, and the Club shifted the travelling fans away from what would have been the pens. But not satisfied by this, they do more.

In the 80's and 90's, I would have found something sharp to fall on if I thought that the pop music pandemic would have made its way over the Atlantic to stadia in the UK. I doubt anyone at the Club will read this, but if you want to create atmosphere at a football ground, let the fans sing when their team scores a goal. We used to sing, songs with many words - not just chants. I know that not every fan agrees with this, but loud music during a game creates a plastic atmosphere at football matches. If there is a concern over noise levels during a game lets be honest, and maybe review the past 20 years of changes made to the terraces. Even standing for a short time increases volume from the crowd.

But hold everything... new club rule: if more than 20 people sing together and stand whilst a match is in progress, they will be given a one game notice to stop. Good God, the very thought of it - singing and standing up! Those types will want Bovril back again - and then an atmosphere! We must put up ticket prices to discourage those types away. Find 20,000 fans who are willing to pay top prices and not sing and I will find you Fulham.

So, now, when a few supporters try to remind us all what it could be like - should be like - at a football ground, they are told to stop. Every time WE decide to show the club what it is like to stop supporting under dire conditions, some PR man pops up shouting, "Keep the faith"... and, "Foxes never quit!" I am fed up with this, especially now.

Without fans, like the Foss Boys, and every other punter that pays well over the odds to support our team (and 'enjoy' a sport in a phase of decline) the wheels come flying off the wagon, and the whole party ends. Let some stand and sing!

This Cub - our Club - must remember why it has managed to get to this point in time: for 125 + years, fans bothered to watch them play, and in days past, when they bothered, they paid some money which entitled them to sing and stand and have a good time.

In the stadium today, evict racists, evict f*!est fans, evict P£^"r T*&lor, even evict asbo proud chavs that wear their tags like a VC - but what ever you do, do not set another tax on atmosphere at a club that could - not so long ago - fill 2 or even 3 pens with singing fans, and then pack more in the East Stand, Carling Stand...

Over the past 20 years, the detrimental decissions affecting the fans - made by our own Club - have been so serious that during the quiet times in the games, I thought I have caught the muffelled rustle of my Grandfather's bones shifting in his grave. What he would make of the statement made to the Foss Boys would be un-publishable.

If the Foss Boys are not allowed to sing and stand, I believe it is time to stand and shout on Saturdays outside the ground.

Foss Boys, sing, stand, shout and bring the biggest flag you can find, and more power to your many elbows. If the s_^t hits the Foss fans on this one, then the rest of the fans must be ready to stand with you in the ground or with you out of it. You are bringing back to our Club what many fans miss about the game in England today.

I do not expect every City fan to agree with me, but at least I feel a bit better now.

Apart from the bit about Bovril, that, sir, was a top first post. :appl:

Posted

The concerns arising from this issue are so significant that it has motivated me to become a member of a forum. So enraged by this, I may even be forced to write a stiff letter...

First of all, when in Rome, do as a Roman. If some fans don't like noise, then sit in the sections of the ground that are known for silence. The kop has always been for the more energetic and lively fan. If the Foss Boys stood in the family enclosure, I could see that the Club would have a valid point. But this is not the issue of concern here is it. I think many fans will be concerned by this statement to you. I am deeply concerned about what is happening to our Club and the game we go to support.

Whilst the Walkers is larger than Filbert Street, for me, it has never managed to recapture the character or atmosphere of the old ground. Why? The government insisted that everyone sit and then with the move up the street, and the Club shifted the travelling fans away from what would have been the pens. But not satisfied by this, they do more.

In the 80's and 90's, I would have found something sharp to fall on if I thought that the pop music pandemic would have made its way over the Atlantic to stadia in the UK. I doubt anyone at the Club will read this, but if you want to create atmosphere at a football ground, let the fans sing when their team scores a goal. We used to sing, songs with many words - not just chants. I know that not every fan agrees with this, but loud music during a game creates a plastic atmosphere at football matches. If there is a concern over noise levels during a game lets be honest, and maybe review the past 20 years of changes made to the terraces. Even standing for a short time increases volume from the crowd.

But hold everything... new club rule: if more than 20 people sing together and stand whilst a match is in progress, they will be given a one game notice to stop. Good God, the very thought of it - singing and standing up! Those types will want Bovril back again - and then an atmosphere! We must put up ticket prices to discourage those types away. Find 20,000 fans who are willing to pay top prices and not sing and I will find you Fulham.

So, now, when a few supporters try to remind us all what it could be like - should be like - at a football ground, they are told to stop. Every time WE decide to show the club what it is like to stop supporting under dire conditions, some PR man pops up shouting, "Keep the faith"... and, "Foxes never quit!" I am fed up with this, especially now.

Without fans, like the Foss Boys, and every other punter that pays well over the odds to support our team (and 'enjoy' a sport in a phase of decline) the wheels come flying off the wagon, and the whole party ends. Let some stand and sing!

This Cub - our Club - must remember why it has managed to get to this point in time: for 125 + years, fans bothered to watch them play, and in days past, when they bothered, they paid some money which entitled them to sing and stand and have a good time.

In the stadium today, evict racists, evict f*!est fans, evict P£^"r T*&lor, even evict asbo proud chavs that wear their tags like a VC - but what ever you do, do not set another tax on atmosphere at a club that could - not so long ago - fill 2 or even 3 pens with singing fans, and then pack more in the East Stand, Carling Stand...

Over the past 20 years, the detrimental decissions affecting the fans - made by our own Club - have been so serious that during the quiet times in the games, I thought I have caught the muffelled rustle of my Grandfather's bones shifting in his grave. What he would make of the statement made to the Foss Boys would be un-publishable.

If the Foss Boys are not allowed to sing and stand, I believe it is time to stand and shout on Saturdays outside the ground.

Foss Boys, sing, stand, shout and bring the biggest flag you can find, and more power to your many elbows. If the s_^t hits the Foss fans on this one, then the rest of the fans must be ready to stand with you in the ground or with you out of it. You are bringing back to our Club what many fans miss about the game in England today.

I do not expect every City fan to agree with me, but at least I feel a bit better now.

This. :thumbup::scarf::appl:

Let's also recall that it was only last season that the club rebranded that area of the

ground with, as I remember, the specific aim of re-creating the atmosphere of its equivalent at Filbo.

So why should the Fosse Boys or anyone else face the prospect of sanctions, simply for taking them at their word?

Meanwhile, an email from the club landed in my in-tray last night, offering me discounted tickets for family and friends for tomorrow. The headline of this email, I kid you not, was "Share The Passion".

You really couldn't make this up..

Posted

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/news/ve-silenced-club-say-vocal-City-fans/article-2576874-detail/article.html

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By david owen

A group of football fans hoping to crank up the atmosphere at Leicester City games claim they have been silenced by the club.

The Fosse Boys – a band of about 50 young city diehards – spent the summer organising themselves into a continental-style supporters group.

Their self-appointed mission was to add some noise and colour to match days at the Walkers Stadium – by singing, leading chants, waving flags and parading banners en-masse, from a section of the Kop (SK1).

However, the group claim the club is now threatening to ban them after other fans apparently complained about their vocal antics at city's first home game of the season.

A statement posted by the group on the FoxesTalk message board, the site where it was formed, said members will not be out in force for tomorrow's game against Reading.

It reads: "Following on from the Middlesbrough game, LCFC apparently received 25 e-mails regarding the group, of which three were in support and 22 were apparently complaints about us being too noisy (remember, the Kop is meant to be our home end).

"As a result, we have been issued with an ultimatum, to either move, face ejections or bans.

"Obviously, we don't much like this bullying approach and as such we need a short time to resolve this issue.

"So, we have decided just for the Reading game on Saturday there will be no Fosse Boys section at the back of SK1."

It continued: "This is obviously a setback to the group's ambitions but we know if we don't get our organisation right while the group is still in its infancy, we're doomed to fail, so hopefully people will understand why we're doing this."

A spokesman for Leicester City said: "We are pleased supporters want to improve the atmosphere within the stadium and actively encourage the singing of pro-Leicester songs and chants, something that we communicated to The Fosse Boys in a recent meeting.

"All supporters must, however, ensure they adhere to the safety regulations that are in place to ensure a safe and enjoyable environment for everyone."

Many city fans have shown their support for the group.

City fan Lee Jobber leads match-day celebrations with his drum in the section by the away fans.

He said: "I've met a couple of the group at away games. They're young lads and very keen but not troublemakers.

"It's great what they're doing and it adds to the atmosphere.

"Obviously, they have to toe the line but I hope between them and the club they can sort out all the dos and don'ts."

Lance Tomlyn, of the Leicester City Independent Supporters' Association, said: "There are too many fans at the Walkers who sit on their hands.

"I'm all for anything that will improve the atmosphere on match days but supporters have to stay within the rules."

Posted

This is only the latest in a long line of atmosphere destroying moves by the club. I sent them an email a couple of years ago explaining that until they turned down the volume of the music pre-match, and completely cancelled the after goal music (both pyscological tools used to, in the first instance, prevent the atmosphere building, and in the 2nd, to quickly calm people down and get them seated again), I would not be attending another game. I've remained true to my word.

I understand that they have rules and regulations they must adhere to, and that the fines they will receive if they do not adhere to them will cancel out and profits they will make from having a better atmosphere/more supporters, but I personally do not which to spend my Saturday afternoons and a good chunk of my hard earned cash being processed through some cringeworthy 'match day experience' while sitting silently in a cramped plastic chair.

This has previously been a problem with all football clubs, not just Leicester, but this latest installment really pushes us forward as the pioneers of the end of football matches as we know it.

With charged mainstream internet streaming of all matches very much on the horizon, supporters will be able to choose between watching the match at home or the pub with a few mates, plenty of beer and with the freedom to be as noisy as they like, or, they could be processed airport style through an uncomfortable, expensive, and ultimately boring two hours at the prison stadium.

I know which one I will be choosing.

Posted
"So, we have decided just for the Reading game on Saturday there will be no Fosse Boys section at the back of SK1."

It continued: "This is obviously a setback to the group's ambitions but we know if we don't get our organisation right while the group is still in its infancy, we're doomed to fail, so hopefully people will understand why we're doing this."

:dunno:

Posted

Sorry I can't find the link but there is a comment somewhere on the Mercury site by someone claiming to be a club official, he/she suggests that these complaints were about racist chanting. This could be a wind up but it needs looking into.

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