Manwell Pablo Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 Dear Sir/MadamToo Noisy? At a football game? In the Kop? Have a word. Yours in disbelief Stuart Mann Racist chanting Club is getting desperate.
Babylon Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 What's happening then, are they still going? Are they going to obey the rules and sit down?
Manwell Pablo Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 Trying to get some on air voices on this, we need to make this as difficult for the club as possible and media is the only way i believe. Responce from I.Stringer:- Hi there Michael, Interesting to hear about your current plight. I can speak with the news team and see what they think, they may wish to contact The Fosse Boys and the club to air the story. What comes after that is down to public support. Unfortunately I'm not allowed, being a BBC staff member, to air my views on such matters which is difficult at times. My advice, for what its worth is to press your story as hard as you can in as many different media outlets as you can, there's a few to choose from. I'll speak with the news team and let you know asap. Regards, Ian You want to be looking at a media source that isn't in the clubs pocket, which could be difficult but not impossible
Mee Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 Dear Sir / Madam,Are you having a laugh? 22 Complaints against a group who have put all their time and effort into trying to make the Walkers a great place to come to. I am honestly in disbelief that you have threatened to ban them or eject them. As everyone who knows the people we know they are as against racism as you are. And you accuse them of being racist. Seriously, do you want the best for this club, and want the fans to keep coming back? Or do you just want them to go once and say 'football fans just aren't the same as before'. At Filbert Street the songs where going around constantly, and people would keep coming back. But at the Walkers, the atmosphere is sometime dead. And this group of lads just purely want to make everyones experience 10 times better. You really should think of what you want for this club and it's atmosphere. Library vs Lively and bubbly atmosphere. Think. Joe Mee.
MeatyLCFC Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 well done lads for putting tht bit in the paper saying (in the home end, the kop i like the sarcaism ) still cant believe the 22 complained for making to much noise on the noise subject i wonder wot the 22 are doing now when the reading the paper?? i think ive got a clue!! football is becoming a laughing stock for atmosphere because of the fookin rubbish FA rules! i could name at over 10 grounds tht there whole kop or where the singers are stand when a important is beenin played and also on low profile games! man utd, chelsea, tottenham, man city, liverpool, aston villa, stoke, birmingham, cardiff ( all there kop stood and dwn the side on the play off game), newcastle, etc... i can keep going! i dnt think fifa has anything to do with this its the Fa but if fifa was involved they would be telling every country, did anyone see rapid venna or any forgein team at home, the whole ground was standing when it was villa rapid home leg! must admit if fifa did anything bout them anit saying they sould because its great for footy they wouldnt be half the sme every week! you only live 1 life so stop listening to them flash shirt tie prawn sandwich eating wood leather sitting faggits and gayboys in yellow and orange jackets, u payed for tht seat so you can do wot you want with it!
Stadt Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 Just sing "STAND UP IF YA LOVE LEICESTER!" KEEP UP THE SUPPORT
haraven Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 There must be a couple of hundred emails in support of the Fosse Boys by now. Also another article that ridicules the club decision to hush-fans : http://thefoxfanzine.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/shhh-keep-the-noise-down/ This really engages me, because I hope to be part of a club that can cheer it's team on. If not, I think I will start watching Chess-matches instead. Seriously.
sbfox Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 For the third time, can we please know if the group was threatened for their STANDING or for their SINGING? I think (my opinion only) that people are getting carried away by these '22 people' line that the club gave. This could be just part of an email the club sent and the reason for the ejections could be your standing. If you're going to ask for support from forums, you really need (my opinion again) to post the full details of what the club tells you and vice versa, otherwise the whole thing turns in to a game of Chinese whispers and we might only get half the story. The club, as annoying as it is, has the right to eject people who persistently stand. I know there are double standards, both in our ground and across the country, but they still have the power. More importantly, we shouldn't be pedalling the line that you're being faced with ejection for singing - that's patently not true. If people want to believe that, fair enough, but I think we can all agree that's not the reason. I know I'll probably be called a jobsworth killjoy for this post, but I think a reasoned debate, rather than hysteria, is needed on this whole issue.
sbfox Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 you only live 1 life so stop listening to them flash shirt tie prawn sandwich eating wood leather sitting faggits and gayboys in yellow and orange jackets, u payed for tht seat so you can do wot you want with it! Oh and completely disagree with this. The guys in the fluro jackets for the most part are good guys and are forced to do whatever they are told or face losing their jobs. If anything, god forbid, did go massively wrong on a Saturday afternoon, those 'gayboys' would be the ones making sure everyone got out the ground safely. The issue of 'paying for a seat and doing what you want' is also stupid. You pay for seats on the bus and yet you can't do whatever you want, why is a football ground any different?
Tommeh Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 i could name at over 10 grounds tht there whole kop or where the singers are stand when a important is beenin played and also on low profile games! man utd, chelsea, tottenham, man city, liverpool, aston villa, stoke, birmingham, cardiff ( all there kop stood and dwn the side on the play off game), newcastle, etc. Decent post mate and I agree with what you're putting across however the bit quoted just isn't true. The only proper Kop to stand in England is Leeds with 5k odd every game, Spurs have a great amount in their lower tier and United and Villa both have good numbers but nowhere near entire stands and Newcastle Man City are blocks similar although much bigger to L1. Stoke get fvck all up same with Brum. The other 2 with really impressive numbers up are Wolves and Ipswich. After that we really don't do that badly. I harvest dreams one day the whole Kop at the walkers will stand of their own accord or by help of safestanding introduction. The response and sense of togetherness in this thread seems to say tomorrow would be the ideal day to start and try and bring back that home game against Birmingham a few years ago
Houdini Logic Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 There must be a couple of hundred emails in support of the Fosse Boys by now. I'd agree, but the club will delete these and deny the true extent. Online Petition I say
Dr The Singh Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 I'd agree, but the club will delete these and deny the true extent. Online Petition I say The only way to get the message accross is to burn some effigies and pelt shoes at those that are in charge!!
LCFC-ARAB Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 For the third time, can we please know if the group was threatened for their STANDING or for their SINGING? I think (my opinion only) that people are getting carried away by these '22 people' line that the club gave. This could be just part of an email the club sent and the reason for the ejections could be your standing. If you're going to ask for support from forums, you really need (my opinion again) to post the full details of what the club tells you and vice versa, otherwise the whole thing turns in to a game of Chinese whispers and we might only get half the story. The club, as annoying as it is, has the right to eject people who persistently stand. I know there are double standards, both in our ground and across the country, but they still have the power. More importantly, we shouldn't be pedalling the line that you're being faced with ejection for singing - that's patently not true. If people want to believe that, fair enough, but I think we can all agree that's not the reason. I know I'll probably be called a jobsworth killjoy for this post, but I think a reasoned debate, rather than hysteria, is needed on this whole issue. The club didnt send us an email, i said earlier that they dont say anything over email to us they phone us so nothing is documented standing is an issue obviously, but they said over the phone that if we do what we did at the boro game again on saturday then long bans will be handed out, they then reffered to the fact that 22 people compplained about us and seeing that we didnt have anyone within about 10 seats of us it wasnt because of standing, the only song we sang with a swear word in was iwan is a welshman (and we sang that once) and there is no way in hell we would ever sing racist chants. so what else would people be compaling about? Katy posted earlier that a lady moved over to where she was sitting because of the noise! people stand freely in L1 and K1 all game every game, people also stand at the back of the kop, the only reason we are being targeted is because we are an organised group. hopefully that has answered your questions
stripeyfox Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 For the third time, can we please know if the group was threatened for their STANDING or for their SINGING? I think (my opinion only) that people are getting carried away by these '22 people' line that the club gave. This could be just part of an email the club sent and the reason for the ejections could be your standing. If you're going to ask for support from forums, you really need (my opinion again) to post the full details of what the club tells you and vice versa, otherwise the whole thing turns in to a game of Chinese whispers and we might only get half the story. The club, as annoying as it is, has the right to eject people who persistently stand. I know there are double standards, both in our ground and across the country, but they still have the power. More importantly, we shouldn't be pedalling the line that you're being faced with ejection for singing - that's patently not true. If people want to believe that, fair enough, but I think we can all agree that's not the reason. I know I'll probably be called a jobsworth killjoy for this post, but I think a reasoned debate, rather than hysteria, is needed on this whole issue. No, this is a good post and an important one to keep the arguments in balance.
sbfox Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 The club didnt send us an email, i said earlier that they dont say anything over email to us they phone us so nothing is documented standing is an issue obviously, but they said over the phone that if we do what we did at the boro game again on saturday then long bans will be handed out, they then reffered to the fact that 22 people compplained about us and seeing that we didnt have anyone within about 10 seats of us it wasnt because of standing, the only song we sang with a swear word in was iwan is a welshman (and we sang that once) and there is no way in hell we would ever sing racist chants. so what else would people be compaling about? Katy posted earlier that a lady moved over to where she was sitting because of the noise! people stand freely in L1 and K1 all game every game, people also stand at the back of the kop, the only reason we are being targeted is because we are an organised group. hopefully that has answered your questions Well it does and it doesn't... I understand about the emails, but you've got to get smart about stuff like that - record phonecalls, bring dictation equipment to face to face meetings, communicate via letters, you know what I mean... Secondly, its still not quite clear to me why you're being threatened. "If you do what you did at the Boro game"... Does that refer to your standing or singing? To me, that still refers to your standing, rather than the singing and as we all know, the club do have the right to eject you for that. I know its unfair and lots of others do it, but why not carry on the singing from your seats?
Babylon Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 The club didnt send us an email, i said earlier that they dont say anything over email to us they phone us so nothing is documented standing is an issue obviously, but they said over the phone that if we do what we did at the boro game again on saturday then long bans will be handed out, they then reffered to the fact that 22 people compplained about us and seeing that we didnt have anyone within about 10 seats of us it wasnt because of standing, the only song we sang with a swear word in was iwan is a welshman (and we sang that once) and there is no way in hell we would ever sing racist chants. so what else would people be compaling about? Katy posted earlier that a lady moved over to where she was sitting because of the noise! people stand freely in L1 and K1 all game every game, people also stand at the back of the kop, the only reason we are being targeted is because we are an organised group. hopefully that has answered your questions I think you need to start posting EXACTLY what has been said rather than your interpretation of it. You made it sound in your first posts like it was all about the noise, then there was you saying they called everyone who emailed them a kid. Which was blatantly not true as you admitted later on. I've got to be honest some of your posts have been very misleading and when the story changes later on it's not painting you in a particularly good light. It's certainly not going to do your cause much good saying the club said x when they actually said y. If you want support, people need the facts so they can decide for themselves. Whats gone on may now mean the club will be gunning for you more than before.
Manwell Pablo Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 The club didnt send us an email, i said earlier that they dont say anything over email to us they phone us so nothing is documented standing is an issue obviously, but they said over the phone that if we do what we did at the boro game again on saturday then long bans will be handed out, they then reffered to the fact that 22 people compplained about us and seeing that we didnt have anyone within about 10 seats of us it wasnt because of standing, the only song we sang with a swear word in was iwan is a welshman (and we sang that once) and there is no way in hell we would ever sing racist chants. so what else would people be compaling about? Katy posted earlier that a lady moved over to where she was sitting because of the noise! people stand freely in L1 and K1 all game every game, people also stand at the back of the kop, the only reason we are being targeted is because we are an organised group. hopefully that has answered your questions Can't really see the problem even if you did sing songs with swear words in them. Kids = West Stand or Family Stand, that simple.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 Well it does and it doesn't... I understand about the emails, but you've got to get smart about stuff like that - record phonecalls, bring dictation equipment to face to face meetings, communicate via letters, you know what I mean... Secondly, its still not quite clear to me why you're being threatened. "If you do what you did at the Boro game"... Does that refer to your standing or singing? To me, that still refers to your standing, rather than the singing and as we all know, the club do have the right to eject you for that. I know its unfair and lots of others do it, but why not carry on the singing from your seats? I am just a lad that goes to football! not a CIA agent, i never thought all this would get so mafiaish, so i wouldnt think of recording all this stuff. Like i said earlier, the club has turned a blind eye to L1 they could do the same to us. if they want us to sit then do the same they do at other grounds, send stewrads up to ask us. they didnt ring people in L1 up when that used to be made to sit down, they were never threatened with bans the whole idea of this group is to attract more people to us who want to sing all game, and we just wont attract the right people if we are sitting down singing, L1 and the other parts of the ground couldnt hear us at the boro game but they could see us, and that's all we have at the minute. this is turning into the other thread where i just repeat my self! so please read back where i have said all this before
Fosse Boy Posted 27 August 2010 Author Posted 27 August 2010 I think you need to start posting EXACTLY what has been said rather than your interpretation of it. You made it sound in your first posts like it was all about the noise, then there was you saying they called everyone who emailed them a kid. Which was blatantly not true as you admitted later on. I've got to be honest some of your posts have been very misleading and when the story changes later on it's not painting you in a particularly good light. It's certainly not going to do your cause much good saying the club said x when they actually said y. If you want support, people need the facts so they can decide for themselves. Whats gone on may now mean the club will be gunning for you more than before. Both myself and ARAB have posted exactly what we know. All the information we have posted on here has been passed on to us by another member of our group (who posts on here), who has an ongoing dialogue with Mr. Barclay. If we could add any more clarity to the content of these 22 e-mails then we would.
sbfox Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 Like i said earlier, the club has turned a blind eye to L1 they could do the same to us. if they want us to sit then do the same they do at other grounds, send stewrads up to ask us. they didnt ring people in L1 up when that used to be made to sit down, they were never threatened with bans the whole idea of this group is to attract more people to us who want to sing all game, and we just wont attract the right people if we are sitting down singing, L1 and the other parts of the ground couldnt hear us at the boro game but they could see us, and that's all we have at the minute. this is turning into the other thread where i just repeat my self! so please read back where i have said all this before Thing is, you've whipped up a bit of a storm here and its looking increasingly like it was nothing at all. There's even a story in the Mercury about how you're being threatened because of your loud support and there are hundreds of emails to the club, all of which look like being totally wrong. It instead seems like the club are threatening you because of your standing - the noise comments look like they were just that, comments. Again, I know it seems unfair, but there's very little you can do. They have the right to eject you for your standing, however petty it may seem.
Head Honcho Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 At least with all this publicity your numbers should increase.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 Going to email them right now. If I were you I'd refuse to sit down. Ive walked out of wembley once for this.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 27 August 2010 Posted 27 August 2010 Thing is, you've whipped up a bit of a storm here and its looking increasingly like it was nothing at all. There's even a story in the Mercury about how you're being threatened because of your loud support and there are hundreds of emails to the club, all of which look like being totally wrong. It instead seems like the club are threatening you because of your standing - the noise comments look like they were just that, comments. Again, I know it seems unfair, but there's very little you can do. They have the right to eject you for your standing, however petty it may seem. what?? all over nothing??? the club has threatened us saying that of we dont move to K1 they will ban us, so it isnt about standing as they will let us stand there? so that doesnt really make sense the complaints to the club can only be about noise, we didnt kick up a storm either! we never in a million years thought we would get so much support, we thought maybe 2 or 3 emails in our favour, when it comes down to it the club has told us that we cant do what we do in the kop, we cant stand or sing, but we can in K1 so sorry to everyone who is in the kop and wants an atmopshere because it looks like you arent allowed one how can people not see that the club have complete double standards? i have just typed what i have been told over the phone, if they emailed us then i would happily copy them to this forum for everyone to see, but the club dont want that
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