wurmer Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 Nero fiddles whilst Rome burns. That sums it up really.... I'm feeling sad now...
Mack Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 something deeply wrong with our team...seriously wrong, and It is on every single level, from dodgy Thai investor who has no connection to LCFC, a manager who clearly dosn't belong here down to a kit brand that no one outside of Lithuania has ever heard of....and a bunch of throughly uncommitted players ( Dyer, however, was outstanding today) whats happening to our club???? Spot on, and I think that is transmitting to the players.
NorthernFox Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 I will give Sousa time...but I have to say in football one of the hardest things is to find success and consistency, we had after a number of years managed to finally achieve it - and whatever reason the powers that be decided in their infinite wisdom to change that. A massive gamble, that so far is not working. However thats not to say it won't work, it depends how long people can put up with a 'transitional spell'... Milan is normally trigger happy...how many games without a win will it take him to sack Paulo. I would urge him not to - we've got to be in this for the long term. Look at Roy Keane at Ipswich, remember how he started last season - they've had a cracking start this season. Are people prepared to wait until next season for a push, while we spend this season finding our passing boots?! That about sums it up. Today was about as unlucky as you can get in a single game, but King is and should be one of the first names on the teamsheet. No panic yet, but it will be interesting to see how the Japanese midfielder turns out....
Vlad The Impaler Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 God knows how King was not selected in the starting 11, could he be one of these players that have supposedly handed in a transfer request? I still think Sousa is the man for the job, he's got a certain something about him which tells me he'll be a success.
Ric Flair Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 The players have alread lost confidence in Sousa. Time for him to go before we lose the likes of King, Fryatt and Hobbs. Absolute neanderthal.
Thracian Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 Dyer apart, it seems we constantly get rid of players who have special game affecting qualities at Leicester while retaining journeymen who flatter to deceive. At the start of the season I emphasised how important it is to score enough goals to give ourselves a chance of promotion. So why would we leave out a midfielder who scores 10 goals or so a season in preference to Oakley or Wellens who don't get anywhere near 10 goals a season between them and don't defend anything like as well in front of the back four? And where is the earthly point in playing a ponderous lone striker like Howard when we have no-one to make the late, driving runs from midfield to back him up? But that's not the end of the handicaps we give ourselves. Our full-backs have largely stopped driving forward to support attacks as well - mostly because they're having trouble enough just dealing with their opponents. But, either way, it negates some of our potential threat and heaps more work on others. Finally there's our defensive back line in general and our centre-backs in particular. Who ever persuaded Sousa that Moreno is a centre-half. He's a typical continental prancing horse. First he commits the schoolboy error of losing possession deep in defence while trying to dribble his way out of trouble. Most folk learn not to do that in junior school. Secondly he plays his part in allowing their striker a free header from 10-yards out at what is obviously a crucial time when every defender should have been alert. It wasn't the first time either - in this match or others. As I've mentioned, it is no use being ablke to stroke the ball around if you're not prepared to be determined and fierce about winning it in the first place. Cos ruthlessness is a requirement of winning football at a professional level. How we contrived to lose today's game against a side who scored two goals and produced one excellent block from Logan from what seemed to be their only three serious chances I don't know - especially as Howard seemed to be presented with three sitters on his own...but failed to take any or even look like he was sharp enough to take them. Kingy on the other hand despatched his one chance with typical aplomb - left-footed at that - and why he should have seen what looked like his second good "goal" of the season rubbed out I suppose the cameras will reveal. But I'd doubt it was for anything more petty than had been ignored in other circumstances. And that includes the penalty we should have had for the pull on one of our players before he delivered a cross from the goalline. We're now another few points off the pace and have scored just two goals in four matches which is way below the eight we needed to score to give ourselves the foundation for a serious challenge. Do weeven have a forwards coach at Leicester, because I really would have been ashamed of some of our failings today had I been Sousa. Quite apart from the missed chances just think back on all the corners and free kicks we had and how little threat they posed. Dyer had a blinder today but his corners matchedhis name ... in fact they rarely cleared the first defender. Nor was there any attempt at variety and on one occasion it was clear no-one fancied taking a corner at all. Bottom line is we're missing a vital cog in a football team - a dead ball specialist. It's like voluntarily throwing away 15-20 goals a season. Add that to the goals we'll lose not fielding central midfielders who can score and the lack of potential goals from any of our back line and its just like we've bought a string of racehorses with three legs and expected them to win races. Football management is not just about the basics like fitness, competency and organisation. It's about the little things that make you lucky instead of the other fellow. Yet we're falling down in so many departments it's resulting in us losing games against inferior sides even at home. Can no-one get the message across to our supposedly celebrated manager. Because from what I've seen so far, the bloke is so naive it's laughable.
Edmund Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 The players have alread lost confidence in Sousa. Time for him to go before we lose the likes of King, Fryatt and Hobbs. Absolute neanderthal. I hate to say it but I agree. What worries me is inevitably he's going to blow the war chest he's been given on mediocre crap. It's deja vu. The players he's brought in are distinctively average.
FrankieADZ Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 I thought we was a shambles first half, just couldnt get going second half was an improvement, just wonder why we didnt start with King and Fryatt in the starting line up. just hope we can musta a win at Cov ,
maddog Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 Shambolic defending AGAIN. Lamey terrible, and in for Neilson who has been one of our few best players so far. The other two Campbell, easily our most dangerous player seems to have fooked off, and King was left on his arse. We have been shit at times this season but christ we have been unlucky. Last season we would have taken 6 extra points on what we have. How did we lose today Need to pick up a result soon, and with the top two coming to us and Cov away it's hard to see where that win will come, Bellamy will tear that defence apart. Moreno is the weakest centre back to wear the shirt i have seen in seasons. Why the fook those two were in for Morrison and Neilson, crazy.
leftsideoverhere Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 the only thing i can think of would be high foot. But if the ref's going to be that pathetic then their first shouldn't have counted (shirt pull on moreno) and their second shouldn't have counted (as with any corner there was shirt pulling and climbing). By far the better team in the second half but lost out on 1 point (or possibly 3) by a few shite reffing decisions. Still Neilson needs to return for lamey, logan needs to be taken behind the shed and shot ASAP and king has to start ahead of oakley. The ref seemed to indicate that Fryatt had fouled his defender as they both pushed to the ball. Certainly they both fell over, but how the ref figured it for a foul, I do not know. How the world has turned that we're now denouncing a manager for not playing Neilson! It's a funny game all right, but I couldn't find much to laugh about this evening.
Edmund Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 Dyer apart, it seems we constantly get rid of players who have special game affecting qualities at Leicester while retaining journeymen who flatter to deceive. At the start of the season I emphasised how important it is to score enough goals to give ourselves a chance of promotion. So why would we leave out a midfielder who scores 10 goals or so a season in preference to Oakley or Wellens who don't get anywhere near 10 goals a season between them and don't defend anything like as well in front of the back four? And where is the earthly point in playing a ponderous lone striker like Howard when we have no-one to make the late, driving runs from midfield to back him up? But that's not the end of the handicaps we give ourselves. Our full-backs have largely stopped driving forward to support attacks as well - mostly because they're having trouble enough just dealing with their opponents. But, either way, it negates some of our potential threat and heaps more work on others. Finally there's our defensive back line in general and our centre-backs in particular. Who ever persuaded Sousa that Moreno is a centre-half. He's a typical continental prancing horse. First he commits the schoolboy error of losing possession deep in defence while trying to dribble his way out of trouble. Most folk learn not to do that in junior school. Secondly he plays his part in allowing their striker a free header from 10-yards out at what is obviously a crucial time when every defender should have been alert. It wasn't the first time either - in this match or others. As I've mentioned, it is no use being ablke to stroke the ball around if you're not prepared to be determined and fierce about winning it in the first place. Cos ruthlessness is a requirement of winning football at a professional level. How we contrived to lose today's game against a side who scored two goals and produced one excellent block from Logan from what seemed to be their only three serious chances I don't know - especially as Howard seemed to be presented with three sitters on his own...but failed to take any or even look like he was sharp enough to take them. Kingy on the other hand despatched his one chance with typical aplomb - left-footed at that - and why he should have seen what looked like his second good "goal" of the season rubbed out I suppose the cameras will reveal. But I'd doubt it was for anything more petty than had been ignored in other circumstances. And that includes the penalty we should have had for the pull on one of our players before he delivered a cross from the goalline. We're now another few points off the pace and have scored just two goals in four matches which is way below the eight we needed to score to give ourselves the foundation for a serious challenge. Do weeven have a forwards coach at Leicester, because I really would have been ashamed of some of our failings today had I been Sousa. Quite apart from the missed chances just think back on all the corners and free kicks we had and how little threat they posed. Dyer had a blinder today but his corners matchedhis name ... in fact they rarely cleared the first defender. Nor was there any attempt at variety and on one occasion it was clear no-one fancied taking a corner at all. Bottom line is we're missing a vital cog in a football team - a dead ball specialist. It's like voluntarily throwing away 15-20 goals a season. Add that to the goals we'll lose not fielding central midfielders who can score and the lack of potential goals from any of our back line and its just like we've bought a string of racehorses with three legs and expected them to win races. Football management is not just about the basics like fitness, competency and organisation. It's about the little things that make you lucky instead of the other fellow. Yet we're falling down in so many departments it's resulting in us losing games against inferior sides even at home. Can no-one get the message across to our supposedly celebrated manager. Because from what I've seen so far, the bloke is so naive it's laughable. Spot on.
dave the caveman Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 Sousa is a batty boy Sousa is a batty boy la la lala la la lala Poor signings, poor selections, poor tactics, apparent poor man management and very poor post match interviews. I'll give him time (what choice do i have), but I don't like him on either a professional or a personal level. He's like some bastard amalgamation of all the hideous managerial weak spots that we've had to endure during the Mandaric era. The wild, corrupt-feeling signings of Martin Allen, the dull football of Pearson, the abysmal results of Holloway. All neatly put together and packaged by Next, with a hair cut by Tony and Guy. What an embarrasment.
Edmund Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 The wild, corrupt-feeling signings of Martin Allen, the dull football of Pearson, the abysmal results of Holloway. All neatly put together and packaged by Next, with a hair cut by Tony and Guy. Brilliant
LoughboroughFox Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 Think most of the players have gone a bit slitty eyed,
wacky Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 Omg I'm very worried. That was awful against a poor Reading side. Transfers? Everyone can go apart from wellens & Hobbs . Dyer had a good game (nice goal ) but he his not good enough for the championship. One thing I didn't understand that Sousa did,is to change it after we scored. We looked on top & ready to take the game to Reading. After the changes the tempo slowed down again which didn't suit us.we tried to play football but we weren't good enough to do it (players ability). There was no game plan after we conceded
Matt Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 Can't get my head round my mood, I'm annoyed, i'm annoyed at the defence and how we didn't score 3 or 4 (maybe more) with the amount of chances we had, but at the same time thought we played OK and had the most chances, we should have won. I'm annoyed at Sousa, and the team but not sure what for - Not winning, or losing more the case. Disappointment doesn't describe my feelings. Very pissed off and planning to drinking through this feeling i've not felt for 2 years. I'm already annoyed at what Sousa is bring to our football club, I'm gonna give Sousa 2 more games before I get very annoyed, I'm then going to give Sousa 5 games before I start calling for his head, I think that's fair. (Again like I said to one comment in the summer - forget what the subject was. At the end of the day doesn't matter what I think or want it won't change anything though).
Tommeh Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 We're very, very poor and what is a shame is that I really don't care anymore.
J.Lisemore Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 Tired of hearing we were unlucky. Luck doesn't win you games. Piss poor. I agree with this.
Numskull-jack Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 Sorry lads you were warned by us Swans fans that Sousa has no I dea what he is doing. We lost Leon Britton because he didn't get on with Sousa. The players all hated his defense minded style of play and the fans were bored stiff watching the games. Even I fell asleep during one match! You need to replace him asap, cause you should be up there challending for the play offs but could end up at the other end heading south. Sousa is negative and since Brendan Rodgers has come in we look a very attack minded side again and the players are enjoying playing football again. All the best to you, and I hope that you come to your senses before Sousa drags you down.
Dylan Posted 28 August 2010 Author Posted 28 August 2010 On the bright side, there was twice last season where we had a spell where we only got 1 point from 4 games.
davieG Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 Sorry lads you were warned by us Swans fans that Sousa has no I dea what he is doing. We lost Leon Britton because he didn't get on with Sousa. The players all hated his defense minded style of play and the fans were bored stiff watching the games. Even I fell asleep during one match! You need to replace him asap, cause you should be up there challending for the play offs but could end up at the other end heading south. Sousa is negative and since Brendan Rodgers has come in we look a very attack minded side again and the players are enjoying playing football again. All the best to you, and I hope that you come to your senses before Sousa drags you down. Well that doesn't describe our situation at all except maybe no idea what he is doing, well I don't anyway. The games aren't boring they're just haphazard and lacking structure. As for replacing him mind your own business.
buzzy Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 I hate to say it but I agree. What worries me is inevitably he's going to blow the war chest he's been given on mediocre crap. It's deja vu. The players he's brought in are distinctively average. how can you say that. only 2 players he bought in played today so that leaves 9 players who were there from previous seasons. you are saying he as got a war chest to buy players do you believe anything that the leicester mercury milan and and the new owners say,im not so sure. paulo needs time but he needs a settled team the right formation and the squad to belive in him and undersyand what he wants. forget pearson his gone and if you think we did not over achive last season you belong in cloud cuckoo land. remember the trees last season at the start could not buy a win then went 22 games unbeaten.we must back him but if in that postion in november must look to see if we have got right man. don,t judge after 4 games after 14 games. come on leicester
MattyFromLE Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 Sorry lads you were warned by us Swans fans that Sousa has no I dea what he is doing. We lost Leon Britton because he didn't get on with Sousa. The players all hated his defense minded style of play and the fans were bored stiff watching the games. Even I fell asleep during one match! You need to replace him asap, cause you should be up there challending for the play offs but could end up at the other end heading south. Sousa is negative and since Brendan Rodgers has come in we look a very attack minded side again and the players are enjoying playing football again. All the best to you, and I hope that you come to your senses before Sousa drags you down. Appreciate your input. BUT. 4 games in, i want to try stay positive. But i am worried. He did still take you high in the league, i kinda think you guys are massively ungrateful for that. But each to their own. Lets hope we get some fooking solidarity and strength.
Cropwellfox Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 The wild, corrupt-feeling signings of Martin Allen, the dull football of Pearson, the abysmal results of Holloway. All neatly put together and packaged by Next, with a hair cut by Tony and Guy. What an embarrasment. Hilarious ! Raised a laugh on a really shitty evening to be a lcfc fan.
Ozwin Posted 28 August 2010 Posted 28 August 2010 I don't care in people think it's too early and 'he hasn't been given long enough' yet - Sousa's causing havok, it took less for Martin Allen to get the boot and he'd just won 4-1 ffs! Sousa out!
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