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[Ric Flair]

I genuinely think i'd be less offended if Dennis Wise was in charge of our club right now. Sousa is fastly making me want to eat my own face. It was a horrendous appointment and the fall out from this will be far worse than when we got relegated under Holloway.

Our only hope is that Sousa goes wild and starts chinning the players and we have to let him go, and please for the love of buddah don't let him have any cash before Wednesday. I hope the Thai's put their foot down or the league puts a temporary embargo on us. I dread to tink what plebs he's got lined up.

Moreno looks clueless and Lamey looked to be trying his best to give Reading the ball at every opportunity.

All his other signings will be pony an'all.

He might be fit, he might have been a sensational player but he is more inept as a manager than Peter Taylor.

So for that reason, it's a NO from me. I'm out.

[The Doctor]

they could have handed them in before he got there after pearson went we just dont know

the fact that it's only just been revealed after about a month in the job suggests they've been handed in under sousa.

[buzzy]

anyone on this forum who wants a manager out after 4 games WELL GO AND SUPPORT ANOTHER TEAM BECAUSE WE DON,T NEED YOU

[sbfox]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work it out.

Transfer requests. Shit happens, players want to move on.

Shuffling and rotation of players. New manager trying to find his best starting XI. Happened under Pearson but we were at a level where it didn't matter.

Being linked to a new player every day. Media speculation and other rumours after getting after new budget.

Body language. Says you. I thought most players looked up for it and Sousa certainly had a good chat with Fatty before he came on, arm round his shoulder, the whole thing.

The list goes on. Not really.

Ridiculous... You need to take a step back and relax a bit. Every one of your posts are massive over-reactions to what is admittedly a tough situation, give the team some time to bed in! Hopefully Abe will be able to relieve Oakley of his role, Wellens and King will be able to play their natural games of hustle and drive respectively, Vitor should provide some reassurance at the back and fingers crossed, we get a good striker in.

People are losing their heads today, we/you look a bit stupid truth be told.

[davieG]

Don't think they're that bad personally, they help bring the ball forward into the midfield which players like Neilson and Morrison struggle to do, we just have nothing up front.

But Moreno doesn't the majority of his passes are either misplaced, under/over hit or lobbed/hoofed aimlessly upfield, yes he's played a few decent bits of football but not enough to warrant being in the team ahead of others.

[philce]

I also want to add I hate Matt Mills, simply because he is a good defender who always has a blinder against us.

After he did a dead swan impression twice I said watch him so something!

Sure enough scores a winner and then that clearance.

Players should have to stay off the pitch for 5 minutes if the trainer is called on for an "injury" time wasting twat!

[CosbehFox]

People wonder why I was so anti-Mandaric, here we have it this is what he has produced. We gone so backwards in three months.

I have no confidence in Sousa. His man management is non-existent and his signing record poor.

[Cropwellfox]

anyone on this forum who wants a manager out after 4 games WELL GO AND SUPPORT ANOTHER TEAM BECAUSE WE DON,T NEED YOU

That's the wrong way round. Fans who spend a large chunk of their wages on following their team don't need to support a manager who inside three months appears to have caused real discontent within the first team, has spent money on wages for a whole host of players who seem to have taken our squad backwards, who is incoherent in his press interviews, and who has turned one of the most solid defences in the league into a bunch of clueless halfwits, and after all that picks Moreno and Lamey ahead of Morrison and King. We don't need a pilloc like that in charge of the club. I really hope that I've called it wrong, but that's where I am on Sousa just now.

[breadandcheese]

anyone on this forum who wants a manager out after 4 games WELL GO AND SUPPORT ANOTHER TEAM BECAUSE WE DON,T NEED YOU

I know personal insults are against the rules on this forum but you really are a dick.

[THEBIGJOHNSTEADER;]

My guts are telling me to prepare for another rocky road, and this is nothing to do with the fact I've just had a hot curry and half a dozen cans of wife beater

[lestajigs]

anyone on this forum who wants a manager out after 4 games WELL GO AND SUPPORT ANOTHER TEAM BECAUSE WE DON,T NEED YOU

Yea your dead right let's give him 46 games!!!!

[Ric Flair]

My guts are telling me to prepare for another rocky road, and this is nothing to do with the fact I've just had a hot curry and half a dozen cans of wife beater

Sousa about to be given the boot? High fives.

[STUHILL]

Ridiculous... You need to take a step back and relax a bit. Every one of your posts are massive over-reactions to what is admittedly a tough situation, give the team some time to bed in! Hopefully Abe will be able to relieve Oakley of his role, Wellens and King will be able to play their natural games of hustle and drive respectively, Vitor should provide some reassurance at the back and fingers crossed, we get a good striker in.

People are losing their heads today, we/you look a bit stupid truth be told.

I am not one to over react and i will give him time but you must be worried too?? Wellens, Gallagher and Fryatt have all handed in transfer requests. Players are unfit, training methods are being questioned.

These are not over reactions, these are facts. We have 1 point from 12. Teams take time I know but the spine of this team was consistently a top 6 last season.

The early signs of hope at Boro and 2nd half Palace seem a distant memory right now.

In my opinion we are a long way off from even competing in this league, let alone be pushing for promotion like last season

[STUHILL]

My guts are telling me to prepare for another rocky road, and this is nothing to do with the fact I've just had a hot curry and half a dozen cans of wife beater

You're not hinting at a manager sacking are you?? Surely not even from MM

[Walkers Wench]

That's the wrong way round. Fans who spend a large chunk of their wages on following their team don't need to support a manager who inside three months appears to have caused real discontent within the first team, has spent money on wages for a whole host of players who seem to have taken our squad backwards, who is incoherent in his press interviews, and who has turned one of the most solid defences in the league into a bunch of clueless halfwits, and after all that picks Moreno and Lamey ahead of Morrison and King. We don't need a pilloc like that in charge of the club. I really hope that I've called it wrong, but that's where I am on Sousa just now.

i don't think you have,,, i agree with you completely.

[STUHILL]

My guts are telling me to prepare for another rocky road, and this is nothing to do with the fact I've just had a hot curry and half a dozen cans of wife beater

To be honest if 1st team players are handing in shock transfer requests this early in the Season then maybe Manderic will have no choice

[Ric Flair]

I am not one to over react and i will give him time but you must be worried too?? Wellens, Gallagher and Fryatt have all handed in transfer requests. Players are unfit, training methods are being questioned.

These are not over reactions, these are facts. We have 1 point from 12. Teams take time I know but the spine of this team was consistently a top 6 last season.

The early signs of hope at Boro and 2nd half Palace seem a distant memory right now.

In my opinion we are a long way off from even competing in this league, let alone be pushing for promotion like last season

You've soon changed your tune. You were telling me to shut up earlier, but I was right wasn't I?

[Corky]

Really concerned right now. Our best midfielder is left on the bench, we have a "centre-back" in Moreno who is struggling badly, two wing-backs who were overrun for most of the game and a centre midfield pairing who expertly gave the ball away.

The plus for me was Dyer, who played very well and scored a lovely goal. I've no idea why King's effort was ruled out late on, but the first half, apart from the opening few minutes, was lethargic. What summed it all up for me was when we had a corner with 20 to play, in a crucial game, and no-one wanted to take it.

I really don't know where our first win is coming from, or where we are going.

[Webbo]

anyone on this forum who wants a manager out after 4 games WELL GO AND SUPPORT ANOTHER TEAM BECAUSE WE DON,T NEED YOU

Don't be an arsehole. I've supported Kelly, Allen, Megson and Holloway and stuck up for them when people were calling for their heads. This guy scares the shit out of me.

[lcfcsnow]

But Moreno doesn't the majority of his passes are either misplaced, under/over hit or lobbed/hoofed aimlessly upfield, yes he's played a few decent bits of football but not enough to warrant being in the team ahead of others.

I agree that Moreno shouldn't be played center back, too risky in this league.

Berner looked a mess today, I don't think anyones picked up on it too busy concentrating on Paulo's signings, but his legs have gone.

[THEBIGJOHNSTEADER;]

You're not hinting at a manager sacking are you?? Surely not even from MM

I might try and instigate it if we lose to cov, I can't take the pain

[STUHILL]

You've soon changed your tune. You were telling me to shut up earlier, but I was right wasn't I?

Well half way through a game and your calling for him to be sacked is shocking in my opinion.

I still haven't called for his sacking and won't until 10 games in BUT the concerning thing for me is the news that transfer requests have come in from three 1st team players, which to me suggests that rumours of players unrest and Sousa already losing the dressing room is potentially true.

I want what is best for the Club and I know supporting the Manager and players whoever they are is always the best option for me HOWEVER I am worried after today and not just because of the performance......

[Edmund]

Ridiculous... You need to take a step back and relax a bit. Every one of your posts are massive over-reactions to what is admittedly a tough situation, give the team some time to bed in! Hopefully Abe will be able to relieve Oakley of his role, Wellens and King will be able to play their natural games of hustle and drive respectively, Vitor should provide some reassurance at the back and fingers crossed, we get a good striker in.

People are losing their heads today, we/you look a bit stupid truth be told.

I wish I could share you're optimism. For me it's not felt right since before the season even started.

It may be a massive reaction in your view but I'm just passionate about the club and it hurts to see the club fading so quickly. You can't honestly say that were not capitulating at the moment with key players not happy.

I may come across as being negative but I'm just going on gut feeling and it's a feeling I've not had since the relegation season. You still wont find me booing the team but at the same time I feel I've got every right to be critical of the shower of shit which is being served to us at the moment and I'm not talking just about the performances, it's everything.

I only want to see my Leicester do well, shoot me.

I am not one to over react and i will give him time but you must be worried too?? Wellens, Gallagher and Fryatt have all handed in transfer requests. Players are unfit, training methods are being questioned.

These are not over reactions, these are facts. We have 1 point from 12. Teams take time I know but the spine of this team was consistently a top 6 last season.

The early signs of hope at Boro and 2nd half Palace seem a distant memory right now.

In my opinion we are a long way off from even competing in this league, let alone be pushing for promotion like last season

[CosbehFox]

I agree that Moreno shouldn't be played center back, too risky in this league.

Berner looked a mess today, I don't think anyones picked up on it too busy concentrating on Paulo's signings, but his legs have gone.

Defo. I doubt a pre-season with little fitness work as helped either.

[EnglishOxide]

What players have handed in transfer requests then? Are we sure that it doesn't just relate to a language issue from Sousa and he was referring only to DJ Campell? Or it could even be some shitty player.

Suggesting that Sousa has lost the dressing room at this stage is daft. He's a new manager. Needs more competitive games to get the best out of his squad. Doesn't know the full attributes of the players yet. And is trying to implement his own style. Were it not for bad luck today it could have been 3 points in the back and City are up and running.

The fickleness of some supporters never ceases to amaze me. I was disappointed again at the booing at half time too. About half a dozen people said 'this is shit, don't know why i pay my money, they are useless' etc at half time, yet were soon on their feet cheering and happy as Larry when Dyer scored. You fickle idiots. This is football. Some of these people were also shouting 'shoot' at every fooking opportunity too, despite there clearly being no space for a shot so a forward pass was the next best option.

The main downside to City today, apart from one or two starting lineup mistakes was that the crossing and corners were poor. Nothing else was majorly wrong, IMO and calling Reading poor is poor form. There are no easy games in this league remember.

Chill out, give it 10 games or so and re-assess your thoughts on the manager and the players who are settling in. This isn't disaster or panic time.