Swalker Posted 28 December 2010 Posted 28 December 2010 What would you change if you were Sven? No transfers just system, formation or team selection. Personally I would play the following team on Saturday- needs to be mixed up Weale Naughton Hobbs Morrison Berner Moussa Abe King Cunningham left mid Vassel Dyer
Kitchandro Posted 28 December 2010 Posted 28 December 2010 Weale Naughton Davies Hobbs Berner Abe Wellens King Gallagher Vassell Dyer Same front 3 that played against Doncaster in the second half. We hammered them. Don't really see why he changed it after Ipswich tbh
themotivator Posted 28 December 2010 Posted 28 December 2010 Weale Naughton Davies Hobbs Berner Abe Wellens King Gallagher Vassell Dyer Same front 3 that played against Doncaster in the second half. We hammered them. Don't really see why he changed it after Ipswich tbh this is probably my favourite starting 11. gallagher obviously has to be more clinical, but there is a reason why he is picked week in week out. would like to see moussa and waghorn make appearances as subs maybe.
Father Ted Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 3-5-2 Weale Morrison Hobbs Vitor ( )Naughton -------------------------------------- DyerWellens AbeKing Vassell Waghorn
David Guiza Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 As much as it pains me to say as I wasn't his biggest fan but the missing piece is Wayne Brown. We looked solid when he played, not so much for any sort of talent but more leadership and experiance. Jack Hobbs was twice the player he is alongside any of the partners this season. Secondly we're to flimsy away from home when we come up against physical sides because we've lost the grit and determination of last seasons squad and replced it with a footballing side.
themotivator Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 would rather be in the positoin we are now than have brown back. would be nice to have someone else with that agression and leadership and mabe a bit more talent. preferably someone who either sven or derek know well enough to slot in and make an impact.
LCFC_ED Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 would rather be in the positoin we are now than have brown back. would be nice to have someone else with that agression and leadership and mabe a bit more talent. preferably someone who either sven or derek know well enough to slot in and make an impact. yes i agree, when tunchev is back hobbs will be back to his best.
LCFC_ED Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 weale naughton davies hobbs berner abe wellens king © dyer gallagher waghorn i think waggy has to be given the chance, he showed last season he can score goals and play up front on his own. dyer has been one of our best players this season so should be a starter, chris weale should never have been dropped. wellens to skipper as he shows the most passion and king is a bit too young atm
Benjaldinho Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 In all honnestly the one thing that needs to change is the fans who panic constantly Let sven do his job for f*** sake, We pay him x amount of cash for a reason.
Captain... Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 At home, nothing, we are winning at home, playing well, looking good, except when we play bednar. Away from home we need to adapt, and what is frustrating me is a bad away performance seems to lead to changing the team for home games. We need to be less cavalier away from home, defend a bit deeper and not give the ball away. Take control of the game even if it is negative boring football for the first 30 minutes and not concede a sloppy early goal. Whether it is an attitude change or bringing in Berner for Cunningham or Morrison for Naughton, or playing 442 with King Wellens Abe and Oakley (on todays performance) or even Moussa to overrun and dominate the midfield. We can spring the likes of Dyer Vassell Cunningham Naughton off the bench to run at a tiring defence.
lildave3 Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 3-5-2 Weale Morrison Hobbs Vitor ( )Naughton -------------------------------------- DyerWellens AbeKing Vassell Waghorn I've just been saying this to someone, maybe 3-5-2 could be worth a try. I think we need 2 up top but I could not choose between Abe/Wellens and King to have 2 in midfield.
Ross 'LCFC' Turner Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 sven needs to stay of the champers, oakley in for abe? vassell on the bench? bedner starting? unbelievable
themotivator Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 sven needs to stay of the champers, oakley in for abe? vassell on the bench? bedner starting? unbelievable have you seen how busy the fixture list has been? we have 4 games in 8 days. i think its obvious that players had to be rested. any team would do the same.
Ashley Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 we need to shoot from outside the box instead of trying to walk it in.
SMX11 Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 If I was Sven I would tell Weale your my number one for the rest of the season and that should give him a confidence boost that he desperately needs. The formation needs to change to a 4-4-2 imo the three central midfielders makes us too narrow and the advanced wingers expose the young naive full backs to often. Wellens and King did a sterling job last year in the centre of midfield. The centre of defence is in complete disarray and I don't think Curtis Davies is the answer to it, we need to bring in a commanding and experienced centre half in to complement Hobbs or Davies (unlikely to sign for us imo). The striker situation is getting on my nerves atm, I thought Bednar played pretty well when he came on against Leeds but that dismal display yesterday doesn't warrant any further interest from us after his loan expires. Howard cannot play on his own and Waggy doesn't fit the current system (or hasn't been played up front). I think Vassell has been the brightest of the lot especially when he is actually played down the middle and thus we need someone to play along with him, Howard possibly in the short term with hopefully and strong forward being near the top of Sven's wishlist in Jan. These are the types of players I would like to see: DC: Curtis Davies Matt Mills Gareth McAuley Shaun Barker MR/L: Adam Hammill Jobi McAnuff/Jimmy Kebe James Coppinger? Chris Eagles/ Wade Elliott ST: Danny Graham James Vaughan Jason Roberts Steve Morison Unfortunately I can't see most/all of them being available <_<
deep blue Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 What would you change if you were Sven? No transfers just system, formation or team selection. Personally I would play the following team on Saturday- needs to be mixed up Weale Naughton Hobbs Morrison Berner Moussa Abe King Cunningham left mid Vassel Dyer Agree something along these lines. Priority is to stop giving away easy goals, and for me the solution is to get back close to last season's defence, where we had understanding and solidity. We need to stabilise it (too much chopping & changing so far). We probably need a Brown-like figure rather than Morrison, though he did fill in there last season well enough on occasion, and his ability in the air is missed not only in defence but in the few goals he scored too.
Jimmy Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 3-5-2 Weale Morrison Hobbs Vitor ( )Naughton -------------------------------------- DyerWellens AbeKing Vassell Waghorn worth a try but I don't think Dyer is good enough to play a wing back role
marbelladave Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 With the players we have we should be doing better, particularly away from home. Tactically we are way too open, our fullbacks need to play more cautiously or they need effective cover from midfield. Our midfield needs to get the ball forward much quicker if our strikers are going to have any chance. So, something like; Weale Naughton--Davies--Hobbs--CunninghamKing--MorenoDyer--Gallagher--MoussaWaghorn/Vassell I would prefer Hobbs and Vitor in central defence but Vitor does not appear to be up to the rigours of the English Championship, far too fragile.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 I honestly think it has got to the point where we need to play a different team/style/formation depending on whether we are away or at home or the sort of team we are up against. 4-3-3 has worked at home, we have ben good going forward and although we are conceding the odd goal, its not as bad as it has been away from home. So I'd stick with it at home. Away from home we have lookd ok going forward, its the defence that is the problem not the goal scoring. We couldnt score last season, but the fact we didnt concede many got us into the top 6. I'd play a 4-4-2 as with 4-3-3 our full backs are too attack minded and neither Gallagher/Dyer/Vassell on the wings dont defend well, meaining the ball is easily put into the area from the flanks and a goal occurs. Like their second goal yesterday. 4-4-2 gets who ever playing left mid/wing and right mid/wing, helping out the full backs and we were much more successful at stopping the goals flooding in last year when we used thsi fromation away from home. Though I understand you cant really keep changing the team and player selection as we realy need consistency, but Sven doesnt seem to know who is best team is. Although we do need changes in January, at the moment with the best of what we have this is the team I'd play, at home anyway: Weale Naughton Hobbs Davies Berner Abe King Wellens Dyer Howard/Waghorn Gallagher/Vassell Away from home that could easily be changed with just a minor player exchange: Weale Naughton Hobbs Davies Berner Gallagher (we lack a right mid) Wellens King Dyer Howard/Waghorn Vassell
Captain... Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 I honestly think it has got to the point where we need to play a different team/style/formation depending on whether we are away or at home or the sort of team we are up against. 4-3-3 has worked at home, we have ben good going forward and although we are conceding the odd goal, its not as bad as it has been away from home. So I'd stick with it at home. Away from home we have lookd ok going forward, its the defence that is the problem not the goal scoring. We couldnt score last season, but the fact we didnt concede many got us into the top 6. I'd play a 4-4-2 as with 4-3-3 our full backs are too attack minded and neither Gallagher/Dyer/Vassell on the wings dont defend well, meaining the ball is easily put into the area from the flanks and a goal occurs. Like their second goal yesterday. 4-4-2 gets who ever playing left mid/wing and right mid/wing, helping out the full backs and we were much more successful at stopping the goals flooding in last year when we used thsi fromation away from home. Though I understand you cant really keep changing the team and player selection as we realy need consistency, but Sven doesnt seem to know who is best team is. Although we do need changes in January, at the moment with the best of what we have this is the team I'd play, at home anyway: Weale Naughton Hobbs Davies Berner Abe King Wellens Dyer Howard/Waghorn Gallagher/Vassell Away from home that could easily be changed with just a minor player exchange: Weale Naughton Hobbs Davies Berner Gallagher (we lack a right mid) Wellens King Dyer Howard/Waghorn Vassell Very similar to what I said up there, although I wouldn't play Gallagher away from home, Oakley or Abe would be better as Right Mid, help Naughton defensively, and tuck in and allow Naughton to provide the width. Gallagher for all his ability is a bit soft and we need more bite in the midfield away. We can always bring him and cunningham on if we need a goal, to run at the tired defence.
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 SACK THE SWEDE! Go back to licking those windows, theres a good boy.
SirBlueFoxington Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 Anything that doesn't involve Bednar, Howard, Oakley or Kirkland is fine by me
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 Very similar to what I said up there, although I wouldn't play Gallagher away from home, Oakley or Abe would be better as Right Mid, help Naughton defensively, and tuck in and allow Naughton to provide the width. Gallagher for all his ability is a bit soft and we need more bite in the midfield away. We can always bring him and cunningham on if we need a goal, to run at the tired defence. I agree really I wouldnt play Gallagher really either, because to be honest I dont rate him at all! He doesnt contribute much at all, nothing in the air, doesnt tackle well, jst lives off the odd set piece. Oakley I think is a bit past if for that position now, though he is the best at playing that role defensively. Abe is a possibility too, but a bit leight weight and not quite qucik enough. Really we do need a new proper right mid, as we are filling that position with square pegs in a round hole.
ibbosuk Posted 29 December 2010 Posted 29 December 2010 But that talk is pointless, Sousa & Sven for what ever the reason have been unable to get the same out of these player's as Pearson did. Perhap's Pearson had a very straight forward and simplistic way of getting his point across to the player's and each understood in there own way. But for what ever reason these player's have way under performed under the last two manager's, we all know this as a fact. Sven knows that if he wants to keep his job he must get in player's who are going to respond to what he is asking them to do and not just in training but on match days as well. He is very lucky to have the money to be able to bring in his own men. I am sure he will bring in people who he has worked with before, people who he know's and can trust, if that happen's thing's could improve very quickly and a top six place could well be back on in half a dozen games time. :sge:
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