Mack Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 There is no doubt that Sven's little black book of contacts is outstanding. But is that the problem? It's just too good for LCFC currently? Much as players like Given, Ljungberg (now at Celtic), Beckham etc would add something to the club they are just not realistic targets for a team in the bottom half of the Championship. And the likes of Santa Cruz wont want to drop down either, even if Sven is the coach and the money is there, they have International careers and sponsorship deals to keep ticking over and for that reason, and in the face of better offers from clubs in higher European leagues, we just cant compete currently. Much as I think Sven is a clever guy and is good for our club, I am starting to worry he doesn't have the contacts of the right type to get in what we need to get up the league.
cc_star Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 100% correct, I have no doubt he could attract all those players to us if we were looking dead certs for promotion like Newcastle & West Brom last year. I think his contacts are a million miles away from the lower half of the 2nd tier. Going further I also believe Sven isn't aware of just what a fight/battle/scrap this division is, which is why we're so poor when the opposition has the ball.
Babylon Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 He is aware what a scrap it us and that's exactly why he said only a day or so ago that we aren't strong enough physically as a team. He's also known to like a strong spine to his team as quoted in his book. So I'd expect some of his Jan/summer signings to be pretty strong physical players.
ithuriel Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 Sven has already said that he has had agents giving him a long list of names to look at but until january it was loans only and considering that we have done pretty well, now it comes down to how persuasive Sven is and the competition from other clubs.
sphericalfox Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 He is aware what a scrap it us and that's exactly why he said only a day or so ago that we aren't strong enough physically as a team. He's also known to like a strong spine to his team as quoted in his book. So I'd expect some of his Jan/summer signings to be pretty strong physical players. Actually he's repeating what he said during his Monday night interview on Radio Beebles awhile back, where he categorically said this, and said he preferred to play a 4-4-2, but didn't have the squad to do so, and hoped to remedy this. I don't think the haters want to hear that though.
Stig the Lawnmower Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 maybe Svens contacts are in a bigger league than us, but I think his reputation will attract a better class of player than most, if not all, other managers in the championship. Time will tell, but january will be very interesting.
Bettsj2 Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 Actually he's repeating what he said during his Monday night interview on Radio Beebles awhile back, where he categorically said this, and said he preferred to play a 4-4-2, but didn't have the squad to do so, and hoped to remedy this. I don't think the haters want to hear that though. This. Doesnt seem to matter what Sven or Faz say, some supporters are happier thinking that they dont know what they're doing.
deep blue Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 Actually he's repeating what he said during his Monday night interview on Radio Beebles awhile back, where he categorically said this, and said he preferred to play a 4-4-2, but didn't have the squad to do so, and hoped to remedy this. I don't think the haters want to hear that though. No grey areas for you, Spherical. Just because some of us on here, myself included, are a little disappointed with the dip in progress and see possible problems in recruiting the right players in Jan, doesn't mean we are Sven haters. Quite the reverse, I think he has a fantastic record, though the nature of the Championship does seem to present unique problems for managers. I still fully support him, and if he manages to achieve the right buys/loans in the January window I will be very happy to admit my worries were unfounded. Up the City!
stockyfox Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 As I attempted to point out in my 'January 2011' thread, the importance of what transpires in the transfer window this next month cannot, in my opinion, be overstated. Get it right and Leicester City FC could soon be 'one of the big boys', get it wrong and the fall-out could be catastrophic. Whether you like it or not, we are currently in a relegation battle and our very first over-riding priority must unquestionably be to consolidate our place in the Championship and I say to those who are dreaming of promotion this year 'Get real'. Just look exactly where we are in the league table, look at the inconsistency in our performances, look at the way the defence has leaked goals and been opened up with such relative ease by opposing players who, with all due respect, don't exactly put the fear of God into you when you peruse the team-sheet line-up and at the other end, look at our inability to put the ball in the net on a regular basis - five times in the second half v Millwall, Ian Stringer finished his commentary on succesive City attacks with the word 'wide'. We need players who play effective 'Championship' football. We need players who will give total commitment to getting a result. We need players who give that commitment for the whole of the game. We need players who expect success as standard The question is 'Can Sven adjust his management skills to operate successfully at this level? The eyes of umpteen thousand Foxes fans will be watching his every move, every breath, every word, every coming, every going.
arch stanton Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 Actually he's repeating what he said during his Monday night interview on Radio Beebles awhile back, where he categorically said this, and said he preferred to play a 4-4-2, but didn't have the squad to do so, and hoped to remedy this. I don't think the haters want to hear that though. If Sven wants to play 4 4 2 then with everyone fit, whats wrong with this team? WEALE NAUGHTON VITOR TUNCHEV BERNER DYER KING WELLENS CUNNINGHAM WAGHORN HOWARD
sphericalfox Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 No grey areas for you, Spherical. Just because some of us on here, myself included, are a little disappointed with the dip in progress and see possible problems in recruiting the right players in Jan, doesn't mean we are Sven haters. Quite the reverse, I think he has a fantastic record, though the nature of the Championship does seem to present unique problems for managers. I still fully support him, and if he manages to achieve the right buys/loans in the January window I will be very happy to admit my worries were unfounded. Up the City! deep blue there are some on here who don't want to hear why Sven feels we are underperforming away. He stated as above. They would prefer to say he is inept and useless. These are the haters and the 'I told you so' brigade, who love to be miserable and rub it peoples faces. I'm not suggesting that anyone who criticise him are 'haters'. Sven is not impeccable and is no messiah, I will judge him on merits and mistakes. At the moment it's wrong to call him useless, as he hasn't had the opportunity to be able to put things right.
jamesmilner Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 if i was the manager of lcfc in the premier with the thai consortium willing to pay out for success then i would be able to contact beckham and co . sven has bought vassell , he is crap and doesnt score goals . sven is now showing his talent , what talent ? the hard bit is getting out of this league , the premier attracts the best players , its not hard to win the premierleague the jack walker / abramovich way . sven is just not good enough in this league look at the results , AWFUL OVERALL !!
sphericalfox Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 if i was the manager of lcfc in the premier with the thai consortium willing to pay out for success then i would be able to contact beckham and co . sven has bought vassell , he is crap and doesnt score goals . sven is now showing his talent , what talent ? the hard bit is getting out of this league , the premier attracts the best players , its not hard to win the premierleague the jack walker / abramovich way . sven is just not good enough in this league look at the results , AWFUL OVERALL !!
shailen Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 If Sven wants to play 4 4 2 then with everyone fit, whats wrong with this team? WEALE NAUGHTON VITOR TUNCHEV BERNER DYER KING WELLENS CUNNINGHAM WAGHORN HOWARD Nothing i agree with you. We do not need to spend much providing we can get naughton on a permanent basis. Our defence is solid but have been far too inconsistent, for whatever reason. We have the best midfield overall in the league IMO, Wellens, King and Abe are all premier league class providing we play Abe in the centre of midfield. The only area we need to strengthen in is to find a striker who can score which sounds odd but for me, Howard isn't clinical enough. Apart from that we have a team that has been seriously underperfoming but is still good enough to get promoted. HAVE FAITH IN THE SQUAD!
Jordan Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 If Sven wants to go 4-4-2, I'm a bit surprised LCFC haven't been linked with more midfielders. Sven's got plenty at his disposal but his comments suggest strongly that Wellens and Abe can't get the job done together let alone by themselves (King has to stay in the starting 11).
Christoph Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 If he wants to play 4-4-2 how does he fit wellens abe and king in then?
Legend_in_blue Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 The situation regarding the formation will not remedy itself until we have a decent right-sided midfield player. We don't have one, we haven't had one for an age that was any good, and until we get one, it's a case of square pegs round holes with a 4-4-2 or continue with the current 4-3-3/4-5-1 system.
Babylon Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 If he wants to play 4-4-2 how does he fit wellens abe and king in then? He can't, which is probably why we won't go 4-4-2. King is the problem (if you can really call it that), sounds weird to say it as he is fantastic getting forward. But he does go missing in games, we can't afford to leave him out as he gets you goals and we can't really play him in a two man midfield. So we either go with a 4-4-2 with one of the wingers tucking in like NP Did, or you go with a three man CM and leave out a front man.
Babylon Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 if i was the manager of lcfc in the premier with the thai consortium willing to pay out for success then i would be able to contact beckham and co . sven has bought vassell , he is crap and doesnt score goals . sven is now showing his talent , what talent ? the hard bit is getting out of this league , the premier attracts the best players , its not hard to win the premierleague the jack walker / abramovich way . sven is just not good enough in this league look at the results , AWFUL OVERALL !! You do realise that we were cut adrift at the foot of the table when he took over don't you, and that Paulo Sousa was here for the first nine games? <_<
Legend_in_blue Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 He can't, which is probably why we won't go 4-4-2. King is the problem (if you can really call it that), sounds weird to say it as he is fantastic getting forward. But he does go missing in games, we can't afford to leave him out as he gets you goals and we can't really play him in a two man midfield. So we either go with a 4-4-2 with one of the wingers tucking in like NP Did, or you go with a three man CM and leave out a front man. You could play a 4-4-1-1 with King playing off the front man. Thoughts on this?
Webbo Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 He can't, which is probably why we won't go 4-4-2. King is the problem (if you can really call it that), sounds weird to say it as he is fantastic getting forward. But he does go missing in games, we can't afford to leave him out as he gets you goals and we can't really play him in a two man midfield. So we either go with a 4-4-2 with one of the wingers tucking in like NP Did, or you go with a three man CM and leave out a front man. You could play a 4-4-1-1 with King just behind a big man. Problem is Vassell is ineffective on the wing and I can't see Sven dropping him.
scott_gunnell Posted 31 December 2010 Posted 31 December 2010 You do realise that we were cut adrift at the foot of the table when he took over don't you, and that Paulo Sousa was here for the first nine games? <_< Well said. Its only been such a short time for Sven. I dont think he has done poorly so far. Sven has a reputation and I am sure Sven would have a better chance at landing big players than most managers. Would you rather go to a club with a manager that had won 3 doubles in 3 differnet countries, or a manager that hopes to win trophies. Fulham choose Hughes over Sven, and last week they where in the relegation zone .
Thracian Posted 1 January 2011 Posted 1 January 2011 If Sven wants to play 4 4 2 then with everyone fit, whats wrong with this team? WEALE NAUGHTON VITOR TUNCHEV BERNER DYER KING WELLENS CUNNINGHAM WAGHORN HOWARD Weale (suddenly unreliable), Naughton (okay but suspect defensively) Vitor (forever injured) Tunchev (will he even play again?) Berner (seriously lacking match fitness and not likely to be here), Dyer (fine), King (Would help our defence but we'd losesome of his goals), Wellens (okay), Cunningham (Not really a winger), Waghorn (Debatable whether he would score enough goals. Too one-footed and wins little in the air) Howard (won't score enough goals) But you have highlighted what an incredible mess we're in!
sphericalfox Posted 1 January 2011 Posted 1 January 2011 Weale (suddenly unreliable), Naughton (okay but suspect defensively) Vitor (forever injured) Tunchev (will he even play again?) Berner (seriously lacking match fitness and not likely to be here), Dyer (fine), King (Would help our defence but we'd losesome of his goals), Wellens (okay), Cunningham (Not really a winger), Waghorn (Debatable whether he would score enough goals. Too one-footed and wins little in the air) Howard (won't score enough goals) But you have highlighted what an incredible mess we're in! That'll be why we're stuck with a 4-4-3 /4-5-1 with little options away from home. I fear a draw or worse today.
Thracian Posted 1 January 2011 Posted 1 January 2011 He can't, which is probably why we won't go 4-4-2. King is the problem (if you can really call it that), sounds weird to say it as he is fantastic getting forward. But he does go missing in games, we can't afford to leave him out as he gets you goals and we can't really play him in a two man midfield. So we either go with a 4-4-2 with one of the wingers tucking in like NP Did, or you go with a three man CM and leave out a front man. Or you go 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 and attack games with attitude. When does any team use more than two up front against us? So why the need for a four-man backline at all. If we had mobile players and got up the opposition's arses we'd have far more chance of winning than simply going with a back four that concedes goals all the time anyway. King would be ideal in that set up because he could make a fourth defender at set pieces or free kicks and would benefit when we went back to three defenders by having stacks of passing opportunities around him. How anyone would consider a 10-goals-a-season midfielder to be a problem I don't know. Especially when he's arguably our best defensive midfielder with his reasonable aerial ability and ability to pass the ball quickly and consistently. The problem with Pearson's approach was that the tucking-in winger rarely functioned as a real winger - ie having shots, scoring goals and making goals, he was just as an extra defender. Okay for collecting away points, but not enough points overall.
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