RedHux Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 We have a keeper called Paul Smith. He is a blinding shot stopper but prone to staying rooted to his line and lacks confidence. Forest "fans" for reasons best known to themselves decided to turn on him. Constantly booing him and cheering wildly when he collected a cross. This had the effect of making him a nervous wreck and his performances deteriorated over time. It's fairly safe to say the constant barracking has ended any hope for furthering his career a Forest and its a shame as he's been a model professional and has put in many hours of sterling service to the club. My point being, why would a group of fans attack one of their own players in such a way and how could it possibly be seen as a good thing? In the case of Ricardo it's even more insane as he's only just arrived and really hasn't even had a chance to blot his copy book for you lot! What is it supposed to achieve? I really don't understand a lot of football fans.
Bluefoxtim Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 Just doesnt give you confidence at all, Ricardo. Weale can make a few silly errors and be a bit prone from long range, but over the course of a season, he will save you more points than Ricardo. Weale doesnt flap, needlessly punch and doesnt do cocky things with the ball every so often. You're a moron. Has this led to any issues? No. Damn sight more confident with Ricardo back passes than Weale.
Lesta Legend Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 You're a moron. Has this led to any issues? No. Damn sight more confident with Ricardo back passes than Weale. That's a bit rich you calling him a moron. Ricardo flaps at the ball causing massive heart attacks for the players when it's clear he should be confidently grabbing the ball! Back passes; not much better than Weale! He doesn't inspire confidence in the defence at all. I don't condone this direct booing / chanting against players but understanding what the vast majority of Leicester fans see how the duck will sven swallow his pride to realise weale is the better keeper, it appears mistakes and points dropped won't change his mind. Just give weale a chance Stop booing and support your team Ps Drop Oakley, along with Ricardo there is direct correlation to their introduction to the team and Leicester's change in fortunes. Coincidence or not.
Petchy Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 Anyone fancy getting some Ricardo chants going next game? The guy must think we're ALL out to get him, when it's just the minority. Unfortunately, the minority seem to have big gobs.
filbertway Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 Having seen the goals, none are his fault... World class marking for that first corner though!
TheUltimateWinner Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 Felt soooo sorry for him, He looked gutted after the goals and none of them were his fault. Great saves Ricardo aswell. People shouting Weale need to clear off out the stadium as they arent fans. We get behind our men, And not pick on them. From where i was sitting behind the goal it looked like he was crying. Hes only human get behind him please ffs.
davieG Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 When you boo/ironically cheer and call for Weale you're actually booing Sven so if your aim is to drive Sven out of the club carrying doing it or alternatively just chant Sven Out.
MrSpaM Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 Anyone fancy getting some Ricardo chants going next game? I'm all up for this to be honest, if Svens going to keep picking him for the rest of the season we need to start getting behind him before he gives up playing for us altogether.
Babylon Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 When you boo/ironically cheer and call for Weale you're actually booing Sven so if your aim is to drive Sven out of the club carrying doing it or alternatively just chant Sven Out. Lets face it Davie G, we are one loss away from the usual crowd getting those type of threads going anyway.
Houdini Logic Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 Just watched the highlights and none of the goals from last night were his fault! He doesn't do himself any favours by flapping and trying to get involved too much, but to be fair he didn't half play well after the 3rd goal went in and he had 20k+ fans on his back. That said, it'd be suicide if Sven put him back in the starting line up.
Houdini Logic Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 When you boo/ironically cheer and call for Weale you're actually booing Sven so if your aim is to drive Sven out of the club carrying doing it or alternatively just chant Sven Out. There's a bit of a difference letting the manager know you're not happy with one decision and calling for their head. Some fans may see it that it worked for Kirkland and now they want it to work for Ricardo.
Kermorgant Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 I would never weale chant but my ****ing mates do and it pisses me off because i keep saying trust me hes good you watch and then he goes and deos what he deos, i still rate him over weale but my loyalty for him is running low PLEASE RICKY PROVE THEM WRONG!!!!!!!
21st Century Fox Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 The same people booing Ricardo and chanting for Weale are probably the same people who as kids would cry and throw their toys when they couldn't bash the square pegs into the round holes, no matter how many times you explain it to them they just won't listen.
ithuriel Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 To be honest since riccy has come in we have looked very shaky in defence, we know he cant handle crosses and high balls into the box from his performances so far but the defence looks badly organised too. Since the goalie organises the defence at corners and set pieces, if the players listen to him that is, then maybe he is not the player for us since we look very fragile to set pieces once again. I do not subscribe to chanting players names since it will not make up a managers mind and the player being targeted will get even worst or make silly errors trying to impress, Riccy last night was doing his best to impress and even ran up to near the half way line with the ball after acting has a sweeper but the fact is he is proving to be not good enough these days.
Babylon Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 To be honest since riccy has come in we have looked very shaky in defence, we know he cant handle crosses and high balls into the box from his performances so far but the defence looks badly organised too. How did the defence look at Sheff United when we got battered for 90 minutes and were only saved by the bar and post, and great saves by Weale. Or how did the defence look earlier in the season when we were taking a hammering left right and centre. It's very easy to blame the keeper for the defences mistakes, he can't stop Bamba from diving in, or Yakubu for not tracking his man, or Mee for diving in etc etc.
Houdini Logic Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 How did the defence look at Sheff United when we got battered for 90 minutes and were only saved by the bar and post, and great saves by Weale. Or how did the defence look earlier in the season when we were taking a hammering left right and centre. It's very easy to blame the keeper for the defences mistakes, he can't stop Bamba from diving in, or Yakubu for not tracking his man, or Mee for diving in etc etc.
ithuriel Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 How did the defence look at Sheff United when we got battered for 90 minutes and were only saved by the bar and post, and great saves by Weale. Or how did the defence look earlier in the season when we were taking a hammering left right and centre. It's very easy to blame the keeper for the defences mistakes, he can't stop Bamba from diving in, or Yakubu for not tracking his man, or Mee for diving in etc etc. Weale had bad games but was playing well when replaced and we are talking about Riccy here. Saying the defence has looked dodgy at points earlier in the season is no defence of Riccy, since he has come in then see my above post. I was hoping we had signed a keeper to bolster our defence, not take it backwards to being fragile to set pieces again.
Babylon Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 Yes, i'm not saying Weale didn't play well. I've already said that I would play Weale instead of Ricardo quite a few times. The post is about people blaming the keeper for the defences mistakes, Weale has been on the end of some thrashings this season, but I can't remember people blaming individual errors and poor defending on him. Yet poor old Ricardo gets absolutely hammered.
Babylon Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 Weale had bad games but was playing well when replaced and we are talking about Riccy here. Saying the defence has looked dodgy at points earlier in the season is no defence of Riccy, since he has come in then see my above post. I was hoping we had signed a keeper to bolster our defence, not take it backwards to being fragile to set pieces again. This isn't about who is or isn't better, it's about you blaming defenders mistakes on the keeper, which is nonsense. How many set pieces we conceded from with Ricardo in goal exactly? Only one I can think of off hand is last night, and that was nowhere near an area the keeper should be dominating, you can't blame him for Yakubu not bothering to track his man.
ithuriel Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 Riccy organises his defence, ho communicates with his players. Either he does not inspire confidence and thus they do not listen to him or he organises them badly, i have only played in goal a few times in sunday league games many years ago and you tell your players who needs marking, where to stand at corners etc., I do not believe it to be coincidence that our bad run has been happening since Riccy came in, i was hoping he would come good but the defence looks very dodgy at present . Derby in the second half when they began attacking was when we started to look a bit dodgy and against Bristol at home it continued. I do not hate Riccy and would love the bloke to keep clean sheets but he is not winning me over and i can not see things changing though i hope i am proved wrong.
ithuriel Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 I should make it very plain that i do not boo our players, it serves no purpose and will eventually upset them if it is constantly done every game. When Riccy is in goal i worry but never boo.
Babylon Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 Riccy organises his defence, ho communicates with his players. Either he does not inspire confidence and thus they do not listen to him or he organises them badly, i have only played in goal a few times in sunday league games many years ago and you tell your players who needs marking, where to stand at corners etc., Ok then, so every goal we have conceded at set pieces under Weale are down to him. It's his fault as he didn't tell the defender he should stop the opponent from heading the ball in the net. I do not believe it to be coincidence that our bad run has been happening since Riccy came in We were shit at Sheffield United as I keep saying. Weale did well that game and saved us along with the bar and the post. Are you blaming his organisational skills for the defenders allowing the other team so many chances? No. Ricardo is a flapper, but he's not to blame for everything that happens on the pitch.
ithuriel Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 He is not to blame for everything but he can be held accountable for a defence that lets a free header in from a corner like last night, since you want to constantly just go on about one match Weale has is faults, communication being one of them but Riccy was brought in to be better than Weale otherwise there was no point getting Riccy in. One thing i can see happening come the end of the season is a new keeper incoming since Sven obviously does not rate Weale enough to be the number 1 and Riccy is only a temporary measure.
Babylon Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 He is not to blame for everything but he can be held accountable for a defence that lets a free header in from a corner like last night, since you want to constantly just go on about one match I keep mentioning the Sheff U match to be fair to Weale, he played well. If I was being an arse about it I could easily talk about other matches he actually let in a lot of goals. It as also his last game, and the defence wasn't really that solid with him there. He saved them several times.
MikeyT Posted 9 March 2011 Posted 9 March 2011 His distribution and some decision making is quite poor but i felt complete and utter embarrassment when people were chanting Weale's name. Wanted to shrink into my seat, cringe and hide.
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