Osama Bin Laden Dead!

[howlinmadmurfdoc]

I might be wrong but the first plane to hit the twin towers the footage of that Is mainly grainy camera phone footage, the second plane that hit was caught on tv because they were reporting on the first, so the images released were never official US government or whatever images, the plane that's hit the pentagon maybe there are no pics of that because people can't get close enough to film it on their phones and they didn't want to release the official footage,

[Babylon]

Man, you love the official stories don't you!

Many firemen (among others) at the scene have talked about the explosions in the basements and I trust those guys a million times more than I do a government spokesperson.

No, I like stories that ate quite obviously true. Ones where there is NO evidence that it's all a conspiracy.

You can keep trotting put your like minded conspiracy theory videos. As has already been said you think the thousands of journalists, intellectuals etc out there that treat these ideas with contempt would do so if there was a shred of anything credible.

Don't answer, they are all pawns in a game controlled by above, they are all in on it etc. Yawn.

[Finnegan]

YOUR SOURCES ARE ALL UNRELIABLE AND MINE ARE UNQUESTIONABLE RAH RAH RAH

[Koke]

At the end of the day we will never find out what truly happened on that 911 day. I, and many others, dont believe in the "official story" because they are too many holes and inconsistencies in it. I dont claim to know what exactly happened, but I do not believe what they are telling us.

[Babylon]

so basically what you are saying is that the security cameras at the pentagon are a pile of shit and no fookin use whatsover if anything happens to the building

yeah ok , stupid fookin americans

No the cameras are set up perfectly to capture every single thing that had ever gone on before in the history of events at the pentagon or anywhere else. They were not however setup to capture a plane or anything else travelling at those speeds, why would they be?

It's like wondering why they weren't set up to capture heat signals after invisible aliens from mars, who give off lots of heat attack it.

It's an unprecedented event!!

[Babylon]

YOUR SOURCES ARE ALL UNRELIABLE AND MINE ARE UNQUESTIONABLE RAH RAH RAH

Plus the YouTube videos, don't forget them. If you watch to the end I bet they all have FACT in capitals written on it

[Babylon]

Many firemen (among others) at the scene have talked about the explosions in the basements and I trust those guys a million times more than I do a government spokesperson.

You know, those fireman who are more like me and most other people who have to grind through life, I believe their words.

What about all the people there including fireman who refute what they say? You latch onto what you want to hear, these people are a tiny tiny minority but you believe them over everyone else because they are saying what you want.

It's nice to see that you are all resorting to name calling. I suppose not being able to back up your claims does that to people.

[Zingari]

Back on topic!!!

Great news.

At least his death will mean no trial.........,,,,,.....not that he was ever getting out alive!

did they actually have any evidence to put him on trial ?

the last i heard was that the FBI didn't actually have any , that's why they don't actually mention the 911 attacks on the wanted poster

[BoneDog]

A) what interview

B) which reporter

C) what was the date

D) did the reporter find him, or was he taken to him

IMPORTANT

The host makes two important points. One, that at the time, the CIA / FBI have been after Bin Laden for years but can't find him. Yet some everyday journalist can, and did find him...........And important point two, that there will be a massive attack soon on the USA, and there was, 3 months later. The last time anyone attacked the USA on that kind of scale was over 50 years before.

A,B and C - Have a search around if you really want to know. Baker Atyani, a famous journalist, met with him in June 2001 and the intelligence services and even CNN knew about this before it happened.

D - Does it matter how the journalists got to him? Do you know anything about satellite surveillance technology? Or even the other million ways they have of spying / tracking? If you do, then you know that they could have tracked the location of Bin Laden's hideout by watching Atyani and then followed Laden wherever he went and pounced (or just unleashed a Hellfire rocket or something on his ass when he stepped out for a pi$$).

Or do you believe that the intelligence services wouldn't have known that this meeting was taking place until after it happened? That would be a ludicrous thing to think.

These links have examples of other times Laden could have been deaded.

Guardian

TruthisContagious

[zubi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwSmFnlwrK0&feature=related

This video made me think twice about the collapse of the WTC, I couldn't quite believe that though the tops of the building were hit, and only one maybe two sides were damaged that they still managed to fall.

Some people may not believe it and just think its a nutty conspiracy thoerist talking non sense. But it made me ask a lot of questions about the whole incident

[zubi]

CCTV cameras are not mobile phones/camcorders. They are time lapsed for a reason. To capture enough detail without taking up too much recording space. The picture quality is excellent and the time lapse low compared to most CCTV pictures

They are set to a speed that's enough to capture people, vehicles etc. They are not set to capture something traveling at something like 200mph plus.

Why would it be, it's unheard of for anything like that to eve happen. I'll say again? Just because you don't see a picture doesn't mean it didn't happen. I'm yet to see ANY evidence that does not have a rational explanation.

I have 7 cameras around my building at work, all are capturing footage in real time and storing it on a hard drive, the hard drive has enough data to hold every single second of 1 months data. Any my company chose the cheaper option!

I guess a small business in Leicester is more sophisticated than the Pentagon?

[The Doctor]

Well you can argue that, but quite frankly I dont believe it, but If you can explain the explosions at the base of the buildings which took place on 9-11 and show me proof that the Pentagon was hit by a plane I will gladly admit defeat.

oh and in answer to your question. Afghan Opium is the shizzle!!!

Yeah, plane fuel is incredibly ****ing volatile and will burn with even the slightest spark, hence the massive explosion when the plane crashed into the tower, it's not unlikely that the fuel flowed down through floorboards, elevator shafts, down stairs etc. towards the basement and ended up catching a slight spark down there and blowing the **** up.

Man, you love the official stories don't you!

Many firemen (among others) at the scene have talked about the explosions in the basements and I trust those guys a million times more than I do a government spokesperson.

You know, those fireman who are more like me and most other people who have to grind through life, I believe their words. While you believe the words of guys who are not like me and most people in the world. You believe people who are known to f*%k around with our and our families money and lives. Real scumbag people.

and what did they actually say?

If you two are actually suggesting that the CIA/FBI or whoever else planted bombs at the base of the towers, then rigged a plane crash to disguise the bomb explosions then you really need to step away from youtube and stop trying to find a conspiracy for every major event that's happened.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Not really, but it's nice to have you back.

Yeah, sure. He's back now his mission in Pakistan is complete.

[coale39]

yet you seriously believe that the most secure building on the planet didn't manage to capture one single discern-able photograph of the plane that supposedly slammed in to it ?

The reason is because when the plane went into the Pentagon, lots of aliens came out.

[zubi]

Yeah, plane fuel is incredibly ****ing volatile and will burn with even the slightest spark, hence the massive explosion when the plane crashed into the tower, it's not unlikely that the fuel flowed down through floorboards, elevator shafts, down stairs etc. towards the basement and ended up catching a slight spark down there and blowing the **** up.

True, but a Plane has a limited amount of fuel in the tank, and considering it had previously made a long flight and used some of it up. It would probably take the whole tank and more to get to the bottom of the WTC and melt the beams. If there was only a single explosion at the bottom, then the building would not have collapsed as it did, if you imagine one side of the building blowing up, the tower would then have to fall to its side, not straight down. I think it's highly unlikely that there was an explosion in each of the 4 corners on multiple levels which caused the collapse in such a way. As the plane didn't go through the whole building but 50% or so of one side, so the fuel would not spread evenly.

And for all of that to happen twice! well thats just great coincidence.

And didn't the building next door fall down? where was the jet fuel there?

Edit: Please don't make me post more youtube videos on this! I already have lost enough credability

[BoneDog]

Nobody's forgetting.

Just most of us believe the more likely truth; that, in desperation, the Americans funded a politically and religiously unstable local leader in desperation to help stop the spread of Communism and he later, predictably, turned against them.

Oh right, so you believe that they worked with him only to fight Russia and that was all. I believe they have been working with him right up until the day he died, whenever that was. It's hardly a big leap of faith to believe that when you know about the other murderous regimes we are still arming and funding.

It wasn't Osama, you know, who gave the order to ground ALL the American Air Force on 9/11 for OVER AN HOUR. The same Air Force who are instantly in the air intercepting planes within 60 seconds of them going off course on every other day of the year. Try and find out what US Air Force pilots have to say about the strange occurances that day.

The only day in history until 9/11 that the US Air Force weren't up in the air intercepting just happened to be the day that the US's biggest terrorist attack was planned, and you lot don't question a thing!! HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME

I suppose that you all believe that our leaders helped to fund, arm and make Hitler very strong as an accident too!

[BoneDog]

The plane fuel burned up very, very quickly and can't sustain or get near a high enough temperature fire for anywhere near long enough to start melting steel.

And the buildings were strong enough to withstand whatever happened above impact zone.

[zubi]

The plane fuel burned up very, very quickly and can't sustain or get near a high enough temperature fire for anywhere near long enough to start melting steel.

And the buildings were strong enough to withstand whatever happened above impact zone.

Thermate theory?

[The Doctor]

The plane fuel burned up very, very quickly and can't sustain or get near a high enough temperature fire for anywhere near long enough to start melting steel.

And the buildings were strong enough to withstand whatever happened above impact zone.

I'm not architect but i reckon if you blew a ****ing massive hole into a skyscraper it would probably destroy supporting beams, and if the supporting beams have been destroyed then there's nothing to stop everything upwards of the impact zone being dragged downwards by gravity.

and zubi:

And didn't the building next door fall down? where was the jet fuel there?

a massive ****-off explosion would destroy more than just the building it is in, destroying surrounding buildings and sending massive chunks of debris smashing into the building next door, smashing it down even if it did just survive the explosion itself.

[Babylon]

and what did they actually say?

They will only give you snippets of what they said, if they gave you the whole transcript they would give a different impression entirely.

A bit like these ones about the Pentagon.

But I suppose these people are all in on the grand plan. You'd of needed about 30,000 people in on it to achieve all the things these guys want you to believe.

[BoneDog]

Mr Cooper sounds like a nice fellow:

*Fabricated shiz by fellows down the lodge who've been handed a wedge and a favour or two. Happens all the time *

Babylon, clearly that was all a smear campaign. That's what they want you to believe, maaan!

Correct, most of it was a smear campaign. Cooper was a thorn in their side and they got rid.

As for the method of execution Babylon, they often do these murders in full public view. These daring methods are very easy to get away with (just like JFK), as the public will always say "they would have done it in an easier, hassle free way if they were responsible". FACT. "The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it."

[Babylon]

As for the method of execution Babylon, they often do these murders in full public view. These daring methods are very easy to get away with (just like JFK), as the public will always say "they would have done it in an easier, hassle free way if they were responsible". FACT. "The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it."

Course they do silly me. There is me thinking a crack head breaking in to Rob him would surfice, when what it really needed was a big **** off shoot out on the front lawn.

[zubi]

and zubi:

a massive ****-off explosion would destroy more than just the building it is in, destroying surrounding buildings and sending massive chunks of debris smashing into the building next door, smashing it down even if it did just survive the explosion itself.

Sure an explosion may have cause a lot of damage, but again the way the building collapsed was just like a controlled demolition. Straight down, not on its side.

Other buildings surrounding the very close proximity of the wtc survived collapsing didn't they?

[Ashley]

Am I wrong to think Bin Laden is still alive? Massive conspiracy 'El Empty' theory here but the government havent released any pictures of his body, nor of him being shot? I would believe it if I saw the pictures

[l444ry]

Building 7 did not explode.

You need to listen to people who know what they are talking about instead of a bunch of clueless conspiracy theorists.