Wymsey Posted 6 May 2011 Posted 6 May 2011 This thread's helping to stop drinking just for now as I'm currently drinking a Woodpecker Cider (4.2% alco) but I need to pick up my Sister from East Midland's Airport in half an hour's time. (45 minute drive) I really want another though.
I am Rod Hull Posted 6 May 2011 Posted 6 May 2011 This thread's helping to stop drinking just for now as I'm currently drinking a Woodpecker Cider (4.2% alco) and I need to pick up my Sister from East Midland's Airport (45 minute drive) I really want another though. Woodpecker ? I thought you only drank Chateau Lafite, from a glass slipper
MikeyT Posted 6 May 2011 Posted 6 May 2011 Woodpecker ? I thought you only drank Chateau Lafite, from a glass slipper
Winchester Posted 6 May 2011 Posted 6 May 2011 Wisconsin is a legendary state when it comes to drink driving. I work with people who've been caught 6 times or more. To make that even worse, one police officer told me that a person has typically driven drunk 8 times before they ever get caught. Though obviously, that's not always the case. Eventually a person can lose their license or go to jail - though it takes more than a couple of offenses. Incidentally most of those people who've had enough violations to prevent them from getting a license (even a limited "drive to work" license) then drive illegally...without insurance One charming person I work with told me how every friday he'd load up his car with beer and just speed around the town slamming beers. He's not the only person I've heard admit to doing this. I personally would like a zero tolerance law. It removes any question on the matter.
MPH Posted 6 May 2011 Posted 6 May 2011 Bit touchy? Ok, scratch 'I'm not defending him', read 'I don't condone it' and pay attention to the point of the post. absolutely. read my first post in this thread.
Haydos Posted 6 May 2011 Posted 6 May 2011 absolutely. read my first post in this thread. Alright, and I understand that it's easier to point the blame in incidents that involve drunk drivers as there is obvious blame and from a paramedics point of view that is understandable. (To make it clear I think the law should be zero tolerance). I quote this from my earlier post: "I know drink driving is taboo but I'm not sure why it's more so than speeding or other dangerous offences. I'd be interested to see the accident rates of drink driving compared to other offences." I worded this completely wrongly and it sounds like I'm making light of drink driving when in actual fact I was just trying to raise the issue that a lot of people take things like minor speeding for granted yet they'd hang someone for having 2 pints and driving a couple of miles in the middle of nowhere. Screw this, either way it sounds like I'm trying to justify it and I'm not
fatmando Posted 6 May 2011 Posted 6 May 2011 It's a weird one this because I'm not going to pretend there hasn't been times in my life where I have driven and not thought 'shit, I might be over the limit here'.. But at the same time, if I knew someone was driving down my street, where my kids play, over the limit, by even just a little bit - **** me, I'd be very angry! Think yourself lucky you got caught early mate. At least this way you will learn, the easy way, you were doing something wrong, and hopefully will stop a potential lifetime of doing that something wrong. And by putting it on something like a forum, like this one, maybe you have made someone else think twice about it next time, stopping them from potentially the same fate, or worse. To drunk now for this shit tbh...logging off. Ha.
DB11 Posted 7 May 2011 Posted 7 May 2011 I'd disagree with zero tolerance. How do you know when the alcohol is totally scientifically out of your system?
Winchester Posted 7 May 2011 Posted 7 May 2011 I'd disagree with zero tolerance. How do you know when the alcohol is totally scientifically out of your system? I understand that concern, however, if it is a truly minimal amount in your system it shouldn't affect your driving and you shouldn't be pulled over and and tested unless you're doing something stupid. Maybe also limiting the fine and penalty for minimal amounts (don't know what the specific amount would be) to something less severe. 50 quid or something like that.
dhermon Posted 9 May 2011 Posted 9 May 2011 I'm not sure what 51 reading is as ours is different, over here but it equates roughly to 1 pint ( 2 standard drinks) in your first hour and then 1/2 (1 standard drink) for each hour after that. I had 6 bottles of Becks (1.3 standards per bottle 1.3 x 6 =7.8 standards) over close to 5 hours. So i would of been allowed 7 standards in that period. I drove home as i knew i only had a 5 minute drive and the actual likelyhood of me blowing over would of been minimal. When you are touch and go you certaintly don't draw attention to yourself by driving with out a seat belt, foglights on and a mobile in ya hand. Maybe i shouldn't of driven home and when ever i'm that worried i will just catch a cab as i know the dangers, but i had done the maths and waited 30 minutes after my last drink and knew i wouldn't realistically blow over. Lucky you wernt pulled over as it would be very touch and go for you being over .05 infact depending on your height and weight theres a chance you would of still been twice the legal limit still Subtract approximately 0.01 every 40 minutes after drinking. The liver will process 1 standard drink per hour After doing the drink driving course the 1 thing i feel should be done is have the course taught in school as 99% of people have no real idea on how alchol effects the human body and how it differs from person to person male to female Ive had pissed friends ring me while out asking me to figure out what there BAC was around just to see if they were safe to drive or how long they would have to wait after consuming their last drink before they can drive safely. To the thread starter get yourself booked in and if possible complete the Drink drivers course before your (first) court date so it at least looks like you are showing some remorse and are willing to learn from a mighty big mistake.
Bert Posted 9 May 2011 Posted 9 May 2011 It's just indefensible. If you're driving, there's just not even a point in having a drink. My mate got done on one pint before. I know this bloke in the pub I go in who drink drives, he's not been caught yet and I hope he does. I'm half tempted to dob him in. Just gonna wait until he pisses me off
lcfcadam Posted 9 May 2011 Posted 9 May 2011 This debate in this thread seems entirely to act as evidence that the limit on alcohol whilst driving should be reduced to zero, because then there would be no grey area whatsoever and anyone who took so much as a sip would know where they stand. Also on a slightly related note, everyone who wants to buy alcohol should have to show proof-of-age, because that would eliminate the nightmare situation that poor checkout assistants and bar-people have to deal with every time an alcohol purchase is made. Trust me, I should know after having worked on a supermarket checkout for a couple of years...
Mee Posted 9 May 2011 Posted 9 May 2011 I think it should be zero. I remember seeing this program, where a 22 year old had had 5 pints, and he was in his flash range rover, and smashed into this other car, leaving a young 2 year old brain damaged for the rest of her life. I think it's stupid and irresponsible whoever drink drives.
AoWW Posted 9 May 2011 Posted 9 May 2011 This debate in this thread seems entirely to act as evidence that the limit on alcohol whilst driving should be reduced to zero, because then there would be no grey area whatsoever and anyone who took so much as a sip would know where they stand. Also on a slightly related note, everyone who wants to buy alcohol should have to show proof-of-age, because that would eliminate the nightmare situation that poor checkout assistants and bar-people have to deal with every time an alcohol purchase is made. Trust me, I should know after having worked on a supermarket checkout for a couple of years... My fear with this is the number of people who'd get caught out the next morning after having a minimal/sensible amount to drink the night before. Presumably there'd be a risk of this showing up on a breathalyser, even if they were still well under the (current) legal limit?
MikeyT Posted 9 May 2011 Posted 9 May 2011 It's just indefensible. If you're driving, there's just not even a point in having a drink. My mate got done on one pint before. I know this bloke in the pub I go in who drink drives, he's not been caught yet and I hope he does. I'm half tempted to dob him in. Just gonna wait until he pisses me off Do it. If he's stupid enough to be like that then he should take the consequences of his actions.
lcfcadam Posted 9 May 2011 Posted 9 May 2011 My fear with this is the number of people who'd get caught out the next morning after having a minimal/sensible amount to drink the night before. Presumably there'd be a risk of this showing up on a breathalyser, even if they were still well under the (current) legal limit? Good point, it's clearly a very difficult issue to deal with. We can hardly say "if you're thinking of driving at any point in the next ??? hours then you must have absolutely nothing to drink". Perhaps the limit should be something very low, like 1 unit, which doesn't constitute what anyone would consider a drink worth having at the time but should account for reasonable previous evening drinking...
Alexikokopops Posted 15 April 2013 Posted 15 April 2013 Got done again last night Another "error of judgement"? How pissed off are you this time? I am counting myself very lucky no-one was hurt, and don't worry i have. Was a complete error of judgement on my part, thought i'd be ok after only having a couple. i'm pissed at myself more than anyone could be pissed off at me!
Fox92 Posted 15 April 2013 Posted 15 April 2013 Got done again last night Not being offensive or anything, but are you stupid?
acooling08 Posted 15 April 2013 Posted 15 April 2013 Done again? You fvcking idiot. Should be a very very hefty fine and ban for that.
Thracian Posted 15 April 2013 Posted 15 April 2013 you are a selfish fool. Having worked in the paediatric intensive care Unit of the Royal Infirmary i can say i have seen the results of actions like this. Whatever punishment you get, it isnt enough. Please learn from this. I'm not defending anything but I've been to hospitals and covered stories relating to smoking, drugs abuse, domestic violence, the consequence of mental shortcomings, irresponsible sex, gang violence, stress related violence, hate crimes, sober people killing others on the roads, phoneless folk doing daft things which resulted in horrific injuries and deaths etc, etc, etc. As far as I can see this individual acted irresponsibly and theoretically put people in danger. The ones I'm talking about actually did it. And causing death, injury, distress etc to others is not just the prerogative of either drivers who've had a drink or people who've been using a phone. Police cause death and injury all the time responding recklessly to suspected crime. And I see irresponsible, inconsiderate and incapable drivers on our roads every day who've likely never been near a drink or a phone and they cause all sorts of shit at times. And most of them get ignored because there's no suspicion of other crimes...people driving in the centre-lane, people driving at ridiculously slow speeds for the situation, people driving carelessly because they're looking for a parking spot or have no idea where they are, people who've clearly never qualified for a British driving licence.....
Guest Bilo Posted 15 April 2013 Posted 15 April 2013 If you feel like an idiot, that's because you are.
StanSP Posted 15 April 2013 Posted 15 April 2013 You clearly didn't learn your lesson from the first time. I hope you get punished accordingly.
Soar Fox Posted 15 April 2013 Posted 15 April 2013 Got done again last night This has got to be a wind up?? Surely nobody is that stupid to drink & drive again.
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