Sven Haters Gone Very Quiet?

[RumbleFox]

Whilst trudging the dour foxestalk summer of 'fonetic yoof' and associated tribulations of the grammarless, textualisation that is reminiscent of chewing tin foil for kicks, I stopped to look around.

I suddenly noticed the lack of Sven hatred on the boards.

"Where have they all gone" I asked myself.

Maybe they are now seeing that this man knows how to assemble a team of footballers.

Or maybe they are hoping Sven will fail and the club will go into administration so that they can be proved right.

Anyway, you remember when we talked about Sven not having a pre-season?

Well this is what the beginnings of one looks like.

Missing you. (You know who you all are)

N.b Some of you may wish to spend some time editing your previous posts for deniability purposes - I hope it takes you as long to trawl through & edit that crap as it did for the rest of us to read it.

Please form an orderly queue below and begin backtracking........

All the best,

N.

Well done in attempting a post in the vein of my epic poems. Questions, speech marks and parenthesis? Why it could almost be a post from the mighty RumbleFox! Of course it's clearly definable from mine by being, well, ya know, not very good but good effort my boy, glad to see me genius is having an effect!

Fully agree with your post, if you had the time or inclination to go through any of my previous posts you will see that I have always been ridiculously positive (to the point of annoyance probably {to be fair I'm a nice enough lad just a little backwards. I like shiny things and I touch my special man part far too often}).

Jesus I'm rambling. What a strange and inane idiot. Basically, let's all get behind the team we support and stop all the fvcking moaning and finger pointing! We can do this, we can really do this! Just imagine Claridge's shin and Elliott's mighty leg muscles! Collymore's hat-trick, Walshie knocking some poor bugger out and Martin jumping like a angry wabbeh on the sidelines! Remember them and smile but don't get nostalgic, don't pine for those times. Remember them, smile then look forwards and run into the distance with me gibbering about promotion with a record points tally! Come on brothers and sisters, fly with me!!!

Rumble

X

PS

[21st Century Fox]

Who cares if you did want to have a moan about something? This is a football forum not a Sven 'love in'

You have made some very sensible posts Stu, dont feel you have to be defensive just cos 'Nick' wants you to be...

The post above points out that those wanting to agree with everything Sven does are gonna look bloody stupid if he messes if up, in the same way as they did when they blindly failed to appreciate that Holloway was gonna take us down. The forum at that time was full of 'we're too good to go down' and look what happened in the end.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... Neither a Sven bummer nor a Sven hater be... Just be glad that we have contacts, money and a good manager at the helm and then let's see how we get on.

Is that Sven bashing? Of course it bloody isn't...

And Nick.. With threads like yours yesterday you gotta be prize troll of the day

I think this thread was more a response to the people who were blaming Sven for bringing in loans when he had no choice, bringing in players that failed when he had no means of trying them out and tinkering and generally playing with a patched up squad. Lots of people were quick to point out that he was just going to bring in high earning 'has-beens' and neglect lower league talent before he'd even had a chance. Now he's able to put his stamp on the squad, I think just with the players we're linked with and already signed, it atleast goes to show he's done his homework and knows this league.

Just for some of his signing so far, I think some people could do with a slice...

Which isn't to say we're going to storm the league, but I have faith that he knows what he's doing.

[Nick]

I think this thread was more a response to the people who were blaming Sven for bringing in loans when he had no choice, bringing in players that failed when he had no means of trying them out and tinkering and generally playing with a patched up squad. Lots of people were quick to point out that he was just going to bring in high earning 'has-beens' and neglect lower league talent before he'd even had a chance. Now he's able to put his stamp on the squad, I think just with the players we're linked with and already signed, it atleast goes to show he's done his homework and knows this league.

Just for some of his signing so far, I think some people could do with a slice...

Which isn't to say we're going to storm the league, but I have faith that he knows what he's doing.

This.

You may want to check again what the definition of 'trolling' is again Col City.

Nick is pointing out to the 'EXTREMISTS' who have posted that Sven will end in failure and us in debt. Unsurprisingly this thread has attracted those who feel they are flying the flag of reason and reality, and those who disagree with them are part of the Sven love-in. Nick is not saying this by any means. Sven is open to criticism from me and everyone else. He's not infallible and will make mistakes that will be discussed in reasonable terms. It's the people who blamed our lack of promotion for elements that were out of Sven's control last season, that rile the majority, and the posters who simply wouldn't accept this under any circumstances that have disappeared.

I'll say that we won't hit the ground running, and there will be bumps along the way. I suspect these same posters will be back at that stage to bleat 'I told you so', when in fact, the reality is that our likely trajectory will be upwards in success.

This.

nickhead, blind optimists are just as bad as blind critics. you're gonna look tooltastic if after a proper pre season and signings, were struggling by Christmas!

And not this.

[Nick]

nickhead, blind optimists are just as bad as blind critics. you're gonna look tooltastic if after a proper pre season and signings, were struggling by Christmas!

I see what you've done there, using a clever play on words and my user name to create humour. The irony is that as you have no understanding of my original post in both its context and narrative that you have made yourself look silly.

That's not racist, 'by the way'.

[Guest Col city fan]

I see what you've done there, using a clever play on words and my user name to create humour. The irony is that as you have no understanding of my original post in both its context and narrative that you have made yourself look silly.

That's not racist, 'by the way'.

I'm surprised nick... That last post just sounds like you're being a mardy bum! I expect more of you

Remember my man, neither a bummer nor a hater be...

[Nick]

Who cares if you did want to have a moan about something? This is a football forum not a Sven 'love in'

You have made some very sensible posts Stu, dont feel you have to be defensive just cos 'Nick' wants you to be...

The post above points out that those wanting to agree with everything Sven does are gonna look bloody stupid if he messes if up, in the same way as they did when they blindly failed to appreciate that Holloway was gonna take us down. The forum at that time was full of 'we're too good to go down' and look what happened in the end.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... Neither a Sven bummer nor a Sven hater be... Just be glad that we have contacts, money and a good manager at the helm and then let's see how we get on.

Is that Sven bashing? Of course it bloody isn't...

And Nick.. With threads like yours yesterday you gotta be prize troll of the day

I'm gonna say it one last time for you Col.

Ready?

I am not in love with Sven. I asked questions about formation and player selection from time to time too. I simply believed that giving a manager a pre-season and a chance to act in the transfer market before making a judgement would be a good idea. I also said 'give him till Christmas' months ago. Next, I am pointing out that July 1st, on the first day of pre-season training, one can already see the difference in player selection and pre season preparation that has already taken place in comparison to the shambles Sven inherited under Sousa.

I've highlighted the nonsense in your above post in bold type to help you see where you make big, daft, interpretations and assumptions.

I have underlined in Italics the most proportional thing you have ever written to allow you to see where you've arrived to now (which is sense) from the all the extremist dross you posted in every thread toward the end of last season.

Questioning the manager is fine, talking about football is fine but when people ruin the foxestalk experience for other users by posting the same uninformed rhetorical dross in every thread and making new ones to the same end - Yes it got on my nerves because it wasn't debate, it was just the same old negativity born out of a basic lack of knowledge of football management needs.

Lastly it was you who created the 'Sven - lovers' label. Thus labelling anybody who supported Sven's approaches to management. Again, now we see proportionality come full circle and you are in the 'excited but realistic and cautious camp' with the rest of us. I am not attempting to clone my opinions on these boards, just expect those posters who are going to dominate the boards to have a degree of rationality in their posting, otherwise it just ruins the boards for the rest of us.

Welcome 'New Col City Fan' - (somebody please change his username) !

N.

[Guest Col city fan]

I'm gonna say it one last time for you Col.

Ready?

I am not in love with Sven. I asked questions about formation and player selection from time to time too. I simply believed that giving a manager a pre-season and a chance to act in the transfer market before making a judgement would be a good idea. I also said 'give him till Christmas' months ago. Next, I am pointing out that July 1st, on the first day of pre-season training, one can already see the difference in player selection and pre season preparation that has already taken place in comparison to the shambles Sven inherited under Sousa.

I've highlighted the nonsense in your above post in bold type to help you see where you make big, daft, interpretations and assumptions.

I have underlined in Italics the most proportional thing you have ever written to allow you to see where you've arrived to now (which is sense) from the all the extremist dross you posted in every thread toward the end of last season.

Questioning the manager is fine, talking about football is fine but when people ruin the foxestalk experience for other users by posting the same uninformed rhetorical dross in every thread and making new ones to the same end - Yes it got on my nerves because it wasn't debate, it was just the same old negativity born out of a basic lack of knowledge of football management needs.

Lastly it was you who created the 'Sven - lovers' label. Thus labelling anybody who supported Sven's approaches to management. Again, now we see proportionality come full circle and you are in the 'excited but realistic and cautious camp' with the rest of us. I am not attempting to clone my opinions on these boards, just expect those posters who are going to dominate the boards to have a degree of rationality in their posting, otherwise it just ruins the boards for the rest of us.

Welcome 'New Col City Fan' - (somebody please change his username) !

N.

I gotta admit Nick you do have a good sense of humour and make me laff. Sometimes as well you make interesting points (only sometimes though..)

Right, enough of 'you and me', let me make some points clear:

1. I like Sven's signings this close season and, if we get CMS (which it looks like we will today), I will be very impressed because I think CMS will be an inspired signing for City

2. Let bygones by bygones... we are always going to disagree about the points I made last season about Sven... you call me a Sven hater but Im sure if the trawl back through the posts I made (I really dont have the time to cos I gotta go to work), I TRIED to give a balanced view of what I saw (I agree that it didnt always come across this way), but that was my intention..

3. Now, for the coming season.... I am BEHIND the manager... I would love nothing more than to get promotion after a sensational season. HOWEVER, as always, if I think that Sven has made incorrect tactical decisions, the wrong substitutions, the team is not performing as I'd expect it to, I will continue to raise these issues on this football forum and will not be shouted down by those who don't wanna hear what I am saying or suggesting.

This is a democracy and the purpose of such a forum... I am not an extremist either way... my name on here is not 'The Sven Revolution' or 'In Sven we Trust' etc. etc.. I have always attempted to be neutral and am glad that you now think I am - now bugger off and hound someone else xx <_<

[stix]

Chewing tin foil!! i cant think of anything worse!

[Bellend Sebastian]

I think there's a real need here for a

BIG HUG

[Daggers]

"Where have they all gone" I asked myself.

They are waiting to go for a pint in Moulton.

[Nick]

They are waiting to go for a pint in Moulton.

Expect a phone call.

[The Year Of The Fox]

People overlook the fact tho that fans weren't moaning about the signings as such- more the chopping and changing of the team, (especially the back 4) and svens stubborness in playing players who were crap

[davieG]

There was definitely somebums talking out of their arses

[B52]

The problem, as I see it, is that people moan with none-whatsoever analyze of the situation. They have a troublesome situation at their work or at home so they take out their frustration on forums instead where they can be fairly invinsible.

Oh, and we got trolls/wums in for a bit of fun.

[Daggers]

Expect a phone call.

I guess Fi needs to as well, then.

[AoWW]

Eh? What am I being roped into / accused of now?

Edit: ah, ok, I'm guessing you'd been out drinking with Nick when you fell in a ditch and decided to call me to ask where you were?

[sphericalfox]

People overlook the fact tho that fans weren't moaning about the signings as such- more the chopping and changing of the team, (especially the back 4) and svens stubborness in playing players who were crap

What a tremendously objective, not hypocritical assessment, of the reaction of the fans of the last season.

[Nick]

Eh? What am I being roped into / accused of now?

Edit: ah, ok, I'm guessing you'd been out drinking with Nick when you fell in a ditch and decided to call me to ask where you were?

[nickm]

there are those of us who think he's an under achiever and those who absolutely love him-i personally think he'll get found out this season and so will the new owners, i hope i'm wrong 'cos if i am i'll be on here eating humble pie-i suppose it's what each individual fan sees as success or failure-if we go up, by whatever means i'll see him as a success, i just don't think he's the man for the job-i'll be at the Ricoh regardless'cos i'm a Leicester fan!

[accessory]

Some of us think Sven was found out last season. But we hope he's learnt a bit more about what (and who) it takes to achieve success in this league.

With hopefully more stability and depth in the squad this time around, and a better start, we should have a decent tilt at the top 6.

[B52]

Some of us think Sven was found out last season. But we hope he's learnt a bit more about what (and who) it takes to achieve success in this league.

With hopefully more stability and depth in the squad this time around, and a better start, we should have a decent tilt at the top 6.

, sorry I missed this. You managed to have three critical posts about sven in three different threads in one or tho hours.

[accessory]

, sorry I missed this. You managed to have three critical posts about sven in three different threads in one or tho hours.

Apologies - I must have overlooked the forum guidelines stating that criticism of the manager will not be tolerated..

Scepticism comes very easily to those of us who have endured a succession of inadequate halfwits who have filled the manager's chair during the past decade at our club.

If Sven turns out to be the one who ends that dismal run then all respect will be due. However there is still a lot of work to do, especially in the transfer market, before that can happen.

And his previous spells in English football were hardly unqualified successes, were they?

[B52]

Apologies - I must have overlooked the forum guidelines stating that criticism of the manager will not be tolerated..

Scepticism comes very easily to those of us who have endured a succession of inadequate halfwits who have filled the manager's chair during the past decade at our club.

If Sven turns out to be the one who ends that dismal run then all respect will be due. However there is still a lot of work to do, especially in the transfer market, before that can happen.

And his previous spells in English football were hardly unqualified successes, were they?

I think it's nice of a so called fan of the club to treat the clubs representatives with respect.

I repeat, if Sven gets 50 mill to buy players with I can see what you're talking about. If not there is around 10 clubs fighting for promotion and we are one of them. It will be really tough to get promotion and for now we are far away from automatic. A thin squad of players won't get promotion so why do you talking as he has a lot of pressure on him. Let the owners deliver some money instead.

[B52]

And his previous spells in English football were hardly unqualified successes, were they?

Man City was an fantastic success. A reserve team plus 50 mill of foreign players gets the double on Manure for the first time in many, many , many years. 10 straight home wins in the league. And Sven got them into Europe. Unbelieveble with those players.

If Sven can duplicate the sucess with Man City we will be very happy......

[MC Prussian]

We've never had a manager with such credentials at this club.

Maybe, just maybe reason has started to settle in with the majority of the doubters.

Maybe, just maybe Sven-Göran Eriksson is not the forerunner of a new wave of Sodom and Gomorrha.

Eriksson also has the brains for the job, and his last two stints with English clubs were spoilt by decisions beyond his control.

It's great to see that the new owners have pledged their commitment to the club and the new manager.

I believe Eriksson still has some unfinished business to do and wants to put things right - who knows for how much longer he's got the passion to manage a professional football club?

I'm not one of those short-sighted people who calls for people's heads after three quarters of a campaign.

That'd be very silly.

You can't expect immediate success - I can't think of a manager in the past who could turn things around in less than one season.

The roundabout in the past six years were all intertwined with the name Milan Mandaric, who knows how to make a quick dime but can't tell a proper manager from the other.

This season's going to be very exciting.

Entering last October, Sven's had the longest and best pre-season a manager can wish for and I'm sure, not expecting us to walk this league, that we'll still be going places.

Upwards.