Bristol City Post Match Thread

[bcfc1897]

when we lost against reading i could accept that because i think the have some good players, but when you loose against bristol city who have been near the bottom it is very frustrating

Umm. We haven't been near the bottom, we've been propping up the rest of the division all season......

......after just two games out of 46 where Englands ex-number one gifted the opposition four goals, hence him being on the bench tonight.

We have good team players but not too many "names" and I know I'd rather have team players who will give their all rather than ex-premiership princesses like David James in the team. It's a proven formula to get promoted from any division. He won't get another game for us, he'll be off for his pension soon enough.

Anyway, you have some decent players at this level (and some who are average or below same as most championship clubs) so I can see you challenging for a top ten, maybe even top six finish so no need to despair after just three games. But there are teams with better squads who will rise to the top and I can't see you (or us) challenging anywhere near the top two.

But I think both clubs have no fears of relegation and mid-table is no disgrace and, if we can get a bit of a run going and keep hold of Maynard we could end up above you in the final analysis.

Best of luck for the season.

[eaststand68]

For me King, Gallagher and Waghorn are not upto the job unless King scores he's a waste of space. Regarding Gallagher hes just a show pony,and Waghorn maybe one day but endevour is not enough at this level. Sven needs to start playing 442 I understand his logic of not wanting tp be over run in midfield, but in the last 2 games both Reading and Bristol have played three up top keeping our full backs pinned back thus causing our wide players to drop into midfield leaving Nugent isolated. He is too stubborn to change we saw that with England but this is the championship not the premiership. Sven please learn about this division. Rant over !!!

Up the City lets beat the Forest please

[Fox You Forest]

Like a man without penis, no penetration.

[Brown Fox]

Why is it always Leicester that decide to just lose to team who are on a complete downer?! Every Bristol fan was expecting a heavy defeat and as soon as they said that you just knew, as a fan of Leicester City Football Club, that we enjoy making things as hard as possible for ourselves. Now we're all worried about Forest and predicting heavy losses etc. we'll probably end up stuffing them. Only the LCFC way

[Bob Weasel Fox]

We were an utter disgrace tonight. Bristol are a poor side and there for the taking, but tonight sadly we were even worse. Fair play Maynard took his goals well but we were piss poor end of. Cant defend, havent a clue up front and out midfield was anonymous - utterly pathetic

[nickelbyfox]

Its only 3 games in and we now have two tough tasks against Forest away then southampton at home, will really be able to judge the team better at that time.

Thing that worries me is if we play well with a 433 and are playing well its all good, but we really do not have any real shake up or plan b if it is not working.

Last point if Ledger hadnt given away the goal and we went on to have a great second half comeback as it looked like after Nugents strike, we would be deliriously happy on this board!

[Grewks]

Couldn't make it today or last Saturday due to work, but heading up to Forest where I'm anticipating an absolute disaster judging by this.

From watching us against Coventry, and the concerns posted here, I am starting to wonder if maybe our pre-season programme was too ambitious. Sure, we learnt a lot about chasing the ball around against Valencia, Bursaspor and Madrid, but how did that help us prepare for the Championship?

In lots of games we will have a lot of the ball in the final 3rd, and perhaps we should have been playing opposition who gave us the opportunity to practice that.

about to post a comment about this myself before i saw this, have the friendlys meant that because we had not a lot of time on the ball that we have forgot how to use it when we get it?

[z-layrex]

hows it going over there boys ?? your dream team doing the business ?? couldnt happen to a nicer bunch of lads ?? dont rick your necks looking up that table !!!

You're a **** but that made me laugh.

[CKB]

Like a man without penis, no penetration.

Great post but can i just say you have brightened my evening up with your amazing avatar.. I wish i could dance like Van Damme did in Kickboxer

[DJ Barry Hammond]

Won't lie, some strange decisions tonight by Sven.. Dropping Mills after one bad game and he's captain? not a brilliant idea in my opinion

As for the game? very poor, disappointed with the start no doubt.. Yes it's early days, but i've got a horrible feeling Sven isn't motivating these players enough and they are believing the hype when they actually need a manager to firmly put there feet on the ground.. I could be totally wrong but i've just got some iffy feeling about the players thinking they are gonna walk every game

Lets hope i am wrong and Sven puts us on track very soon

Well if the players were thinking that, even they will be able to work out that is not the case following the recent results. Just a shame we have given City an opportunity to try and milk an extra couple of million from us for Maynard!

[your sport]

All of last season I said that 4-3-3 just doesn't work and it is mainly down to the lone striker not being good enough and not having any good natural wingers. The 2 positions that needed filling desperately still haven't been. In my opinion we need 2 wingers and possibly 2 strikers. Is Sven wasting valuable time trying to get people like Beckford when it just isn't going to happen?

I do really like Sven and think it was great when he took charge but just don't understand why we are still playing the same formation. After watching the match tonight and attending a great deal of matches last season I just don't know when I will want to attend again.

It is still of course too early to complain too much and we still have so much time to get up there and winning the league is very possible but only if we get these last couple of people in and sort the formation out.

[EverybodyDannsNow]

Tonight was totally unacceptable. Most people will find it easy to blame SSL however there were 11 men on that field that could not break down a defence which is probably the worst (on paper) we will come across all season. Peltier didnt play terrible but the early signs are that we miss Naughton more than we should ever miss a right back. SSL had a solid game for me untill the error, but i would bring back mills on saturday. The individual performances in the midfield were not all that bad, the problem is that there is no cutting edge link between the midfield and attack. King got forward well, Wellens made a few clever runs and fernandez did okay. The front 3 simply didnt see enough of the ball for me, dyer was non-existant, Gallagher was far from his best and Nugent did the best he possibly could, very good game and MOTM.

Maybe a formation change is needed, the individuals we have should be in the top 3 this season, but they are not gelling at all. I cant see us getting anything from the next 2 games, and if we dont, Sven is in BIG BIG trouble.

Harsh but true

[Thracian]

One thing is abundantly clear. There's no way this team is going to win one of the two automatic promotion places. Nor even be close.

Apart from anything else our defenders have a footballing death wish.

Seriously, I didn't think St Leger could be worse than Mills but he sure put me right on that. And Peltier wasn't much better.

Three or four times in the first half they almost got caught trying to turn and dribble when the last man in defensive situations and it made me wonder if they'd ever been coached in their footballing lives.

But the way St Leger gave away their second goal was straight out of the schoolboy howlers book. It was just 100% inexcusable and for the second time we'd seemed on the verge of taking control only to be floored by a sucker punch.

The first came with the free-kick which led to Maynard's unstoppable opener. What possible reason was there to foul the Bristol guy? It was just thoughtless indiscipline.

The penalty incident was just the same though the bar intervened to give us a reprieve. But did we learn our lessons? Not at all. In fact we showed more determination to give the game away than to win it and the owners really need to be asking some serious questions.

Yet what a winable game it was. I still don't know why Sven persists with playing a lone striker but the presence of King, Dyer, Wellens and Gallagher on occasions meant that there was passing, support and movement even if it did seem a bit incohesive and rusty at times. The result was far more chances being created and far more situatiomns where we should have had chances.

I can excuse the misunderstandings and rustiness, the team really does need time to gel but, suddenly, why can't Dyer deliver a final pass, a cross or a corner with any accuracy?

King too took time to find his touch but thesigns were there and he looked his old self second half and should perhaps have scored with a header from a looped cross that just came down too slowly and steeply for him to generate any power.

Nugent worked a brilliant goal chance out of nothing but delayed his shot too long but his goal was a beauty and nothing less than he deserved for an industrious and always threatening performance - and the sort you'd expect when he's given proprer - or at least better support.

Even so I was disappointed to see Schlupp completely overlooked - I still believe we need two strikers - and Dyer substituted to the cost of all our pace. No Dyer was playing brilliantly and won't be til he's tuned in with more games. But he did pose problems, unsettle defenders and provide another important passing option.

But bottom line is we were five or six against 11 tonight because so many of our players looked so sub-standard. Peltier, St Leger were the worst but Konchesky. Fernandes, Waghorn and even Gallagher weren't much better.

We can't carry a handicap like that. Bristol's tactics were simple. Get men behind the ball and try to hit us fast on the break. It worked because, King and Wellens apart, we just weren't fast enough or accurate enough with our passing and our close control was far too clumsy in tight situations.

At least there was encouragement where on Saturday there was none but our owners really do have to ask themselves what they've got for £10m not just in players (and some of them have so little effect) but in he performance Sven and his colleagues are getting out of them.

Look again at our free-kicks and corners. They really were embarrassing at times for a professional club. Twice we couldn't even take a proper throw-in, our decision-making in defence was appalling and we got further and surely conclusive eveidence, that our full-backs aren't natural attackers and therefore the very idea of 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 is just not going to work with any fluidity.

With three games played we're seven points off the pace counting goal difference and that after two home games against modest opposition. Whatever team we select will have serious flaws in terms of ability, balance and the vitals need to accumulate points and there's no sign we'll even play the best attacking team we can.

Defensively we need to include so much insurance to keep a clean sheet it will inevitably leave our attack blunted so the crisis we've made for ourselves is serious and has to be addressedeven at this stage. But at lest there was more promise to be seen tonight than on Saturday.

[martyn]

For a side who are so slow and ponderous in supporting the attack, we don't half get turned round quick by the opposition on the counter. I know people will say "it's only 3 games" but that was a worrying performance with very few positives.

We were static, predictable, painfully slow in the build up (this would be fine if every move didn't invariably end with a hopeful lump after getting impatient) and played like strangers. We have no penetration from the centre of midfield (we desperately need a driving runner or someone with guile to unlock a defence), nor do our wide players have the skill nor inclination to offer Nugent the support he needs, whether it be with interplay areound the box, or by getting to the bye line. It's absolutely criminal how isolated Nugent gets, and yet he was our best performer by a country mile.

Waghorn's cameo summed the night up, he has a free kick 30 yaards out, scuffs it low into the wall, the ball rebounds to him yet his cross fails to beat the first man who heads it straight back to Waggy who blasts it miles high and wide from 25 yards. Pitiful.

[CKB]

Well if the players were thinking that, even they will be able to work out that is not the case following the recent results. Just a shame we have given City an opportunity to try and milk an extra couple of million from us for Maynard!

Meaning they are coming a cropper because they are not putting in the effort that is needed, i just have some hunch that the players are not putting in the full round they should be, whether all the hype about us is getting to them i don't know... I should have worded it abit better and as for Maynard? he will probably be valued at 12 million now if Brizzle have anything to do with it!

[Happy Fox]

One thing is abundantly clear. There's no way this team is going to win one of the two automatic promotion places. Nor even be close.

Apart from anything else our defenders have a footballing death wish.

Seriously, I didn't think St Leger could be worse than Mills but he sure put me right on that. And Peltier wasn't much better.

Three or four times in the first half they almost got caught trying to turn and dribble when the last man in defensive situations and it made me wonder if they'd ever been coached in their footballing lives.

But the way St Leger gave away their second goal was straight out of the schoolboy howlers book. It was just 100% inexcusable and for the second time we'd seemed on the verge of taking control only to be floored by a sucker punch.

The first came with the free-kick which led to Maynard's unstoppable opener. What possible reason was there to foul the Bristol guy? It was just thoughtless indiscipline.

The penalty incident was just the same though the bar intervened to give us a reprieve. But did we learn our lessons? Not at all. In fact we showed more determination to give the game away than to win it and the owners really need to be asking some serious questions.

Yet what a winable game it was. I still don't know why Sven persists with playing a lone striker but the presence of King, Dyer, Wellens and Gallagher on occasions meant that there was passing, support and movement even if it did seem a bit incohesive and rusty at times. The result was far more chances being created and far more situatiomns where we should have had chances.

I can excuse the misunderstandings and rustiness, the team really does need time to gel but, suddenly, why can't Dyer deliver a final pass, a cross or a corner with any accuracy?

King too took time to find his touch but thesigns were there and he looked his old self second half and should perhaps have scored with a header from a looped cross that just came down too slowly and steeply for him to generate any power.

Nugent worked a brilliant goal chance out of nothing but delayed his shot too long but his goal was a beauty and nothing less than he deserved for an industrious and always threatening performance - and the sort you'd expect when he's given proprer - or at least better support.

Even so I was disappointed to see Schlupp completely overlooked - I still believe we need two strikers - and Dyer substituted to the cost of all our pace. No Dyer was playing brilliantly and won't be til he's tuned in with more games. But he did pose problems, unsettle defenders and provide another important passing option.

But bottom line is we were five or six against 11 tonight because so many of our players looked so sub-standard. Peltier, St Leger were the worst but Konchesky. Fernandes, Waghorn and even Gallagher weren't much better.

We can't carry a handicap like that. Bristol's tactics were simple. Get men behind the ball and try to hit us fast on the break. It worked because, King and Wellens apart, we just weren't fast enough or accurate enough with our passing and our close control was far too clumsy in tight situations.

At least there was encouragement where on Saturday there was none but our owners really do have to ask themselves what they've got for £10m not just in players (and some of them have so little effect) but in he performance Sven and his colleagues are getting out of them.

Look again at our free-kicks and corners. They really were embarrassing at times for a professional club. Twice we couldn't even take a proper throw-in, our decision-making in defence was appalling and we got further and surely conclusive eveidence, that our full-backs aren't natural attackers and therefore the very idea of 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 is just not going to work with any fluidity.

With three games played we're seven points off the pace counting goal difference and that after two home games against modest opposition. Whatever team we select will have serious flaws in terms of ability, balance and the vitals need to accumulate points and there's no sign we'll even play the best attacking team we can.

Defensively we need to include so much insurance to keep a clean sheet it will inevitably leave our attack blunted so the crisis we've made for ourselves is serious and has to be addressedeven at this stage. But at lest there was more promise to be seen tonight than on Saturday.

He is shit, one thing we need is decent quality wingers most championship teams have them we on the other hand don't

[z-layrex]

For ****s sake I'm at the pub and getting so much shit over this, bearing in mind I live near Brighton, even here everyone hates us. 2 Millwall fans won't shut up about it.

[Maybes]

For ****s sake I'm at the pub and getting so much shit over this, bearing in mind I live near Brighton, even here everyone hates us. 2 Millwall fans won't shut up about it.

Just turn your back on them.

Actually on second thoughts. . .

[bcfc1897]

Tonight was totally unacceptable. Most people will find it easy to blame SSL however there were 11 men on that field that could not break down a defence which is probably the worst (on paper) we will come across all season. Peltier didnt play terrible but the early signs are that we miss Naughton more than we should ever miss a right back. SSL had a solid game for me untill the error, but i would bring back mills on saturday. The individual performances in the midfield were not all that bad, the problem is that there is no cutting edge link between the midfield and attack. King got forward well, Wellens made a few clever runs and fernandez did okay. The front 3 simply didnt see enough of the ball for me, dyer was non-existant, Gallagher was far from his best and Nugent did the best he possibly could, very good game and MOTM.

Maybe a formation change is needed, the individuals we have should be in the top 3 this season, but they are not gelling at all. I cant see us getting anything from the next 2 games, and if we dont, Sven is in BIG BIG trouble.

Harsh but true

It's very easy to spout shite without checking facts, like you have just done.

We had the 5th best defence in the championship last season in terms of clean sheets and nothing has really changed this season other than David James being a year closer to retirement and hopefully now sidelined after throwing two games away.

Get over yourself, your team will compete along with around 16 others for a top six finish - you have no hope whatsoever of a top two finish, there are probably six or seven teams in front of you for that.

You have players that have joined you for a reason other than football................money. Just like your manager.

Best of luck.

[Blinking Blue Owl]

It feels like ground hog day . We were spouting the same crap about Sousa last year , give him time , the players need to gel blah blah blah . Yet deep in our hearts we knew he didn't have a clue and had brought crap players and was asking them to play like Chelsea when they actually had the ability of Raith Rovers . The end was inevitable , same as it will be for Sven . It's going to get worse before it gets better the king is wearing no clothes and sooner than later the owners will put him out of his misery . I predict if we loose the next two games he's on his bike and quite right too.

[sbfox]

It's very easy to spout shite without checking facts, like you have just done.

We had the 5th best defence in the championship last season in terms of clean sheets and nothing has really changed this season other than David James being a year closer to retirement and hopefully now sidelined after throwing two games away.

Get over yourself, your team will compete along with around 16 others for a top six finish - you have no hope whatsoever of a top two finish, there are probably six or seven teams in front of you for that.

You have players that have joined you for a reason other than football................money. Just like your manager.

Best of luck.

Mmmmmkay.... **** off back to your own board now? Kthnxbai

[Neil_LCFC]

Jack Hobbs to Hull 800k

St Ledger to Leicester 1.2 million

Absolute joke, he was awful all game. Passing and all round performance was shocking-why you would drop a 5.5 million pound record signing for a back up (at best) player.

Playing a 4-5-1, but we have nothing on the wing other than Konchesky...no support for Nugent. We pass it around defence and midfield and then run out of ideas in the final third.

Changes are needed!

This post is spot on I am worrying about Sven's judgement of players after letting Hobbs go for 800k and Spending 5mil on Mills and 1.2 on St Ledger.He doesn't seem to like wingers at all just packs his team with centre mid players. We look a shadow of the side we had at the end of last season let alone the TEAM we had under Pearson, That's right team you don't need to spend millions to get out of this division look at the cost of recent promoted teams.

We had Waghorn 2 mill, Mills 5 mill on the bench ,that is more than some other sides starting 11 cost. We are fast becoming a laughing stock,

[Basil Brush]

This post is spot on I am worrying about Sven's judgement of players after letting Hobbs go for 800k and Spending 5mil on Mills and 1.2 on St Ledger.He doesn't seem to like wingers at all just packs his team with centre mid players. We look a shadow of the side we had at the end of last season let alone the TEAM we had under Pearson, That's right team you don't need to spend millions to get out of this division look at the cost of recent promoted teams.

We had Waghorn 2 mill, Mills 5 mill on the bench ,that is more than some other sides starting 11 cost. We are fast becoming a laughing stock,

Umm Mills was 4mm good businees i think, St Legend i though did ok considering. We ar enot a laughing stock, we are just now acutly aware than we need to spend big money ona striker, otherwise we will struggle for top 6 let alone auto.

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

This post is spot on I am worrying about Sven's judgement of players after letting Hobbs go for 800k and Spending 5mil on Mills and 1.2 on St Ledger.He doesn't seem to like wingers at all just packs his team with centre mid players. We look a shadow of the side we had at the end of last season let alone the TEAM we had under Pearson, That's right team you don't need to spend millions to get out of this division look at the cost of recent promoted teams.

We had Waghorn 2 mill, Mills 5 mill on the bench ,that is more than some other sides starting 11 cost. We are fast becoming a laughing stock,

The thing that annoys me is that people on here said we got rid of Hobbs because he wasnt a footballing defender who could pass the ball around. Well Mills and St Ledger are even worse from what I have seen and we got peanutes for Hobbs in comparison.

You dont need to spend millions, you just need to be organised and have your team set up properly, playing the right formation and the right tactics. Sven doesnt even know hwat his best team is, let alone formation.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Not a good result. Beaten by a poor side, who still have the best striker in the league. His price is going to go up. With him in our side tonight, we would probably have won easily. A real kick in the teeth, for us.