SMX11 Posted 18 August 2011 Posted 18 August 2011 He is playing out of position but I am pretty sure he would be equally useless up front.
SMX11 Posted 18 August 2011 Posted 18 August 2011 I just don't think he fits the current system, his performances have been pretty awful but I think he may have some value in a better system, you can't go from being so good to being so bad like he has.
HoustonFox Posted 18 August 2011 Posted 18 August 2011 Jeez, he's only 21 and not been here that long and we want to get rid. Any other 21 yr old would be given some more time. I agree with Father Ted that maybe he has spent too much time down the gym and we saw what happened to Owen when he did that (NOT comparing him in terms of ability to Owen by the way). Also agree with the others about a short term loan (3 months to get his eye in - clause that he HAS to play). Then if he is parp with someone else we can sell in Jan... If good, we bring him back.
Guest ttfn Posted 18 August 2011 Posted 18 August 2011 Jeez, he's only 21 and not been here that long and we want to get rid. Any other 21 yr old would be given some more time. I agree with Father Ted that maybe he has spent too much time down the gym and we saw what happened to Owen when he did that (NOT comparing him in terms of ability to Owen by the way). Also agree with the others about a short term loan (3 months to get his eye in - clause that he HAS to play). Then if he is parp with someone else we can sell in Jan... If good, we bring him back. Any amount of "sharpness" won't make up for his appalling first touch. I feel so sorry for the lad, but he's not good enough.
fleckneymike Posted 18 August 2011 Posted 18 August 2011 Any amount of "sharpness" won't make up for his appalling first touch. I feel so sorry for the lad, but he's not good enough. Agree. We've paid well over the odds for a very average player. He did ok under Pearson where the play was very predictable, everyone had clearly defined roles and we essentially played table football (rigid rows of play). Under this style where we are expected to be slightly more fluid in terms of positioning and movement (to very limited success it must be said) he sadly just isn't up to it.
hemelfox Posted 18 August 2011 Posted 18 August 2011 As much as I love Waggy, alas he is not up to it. Sorry :-(
MPH Posted 18 August 2011 Posted 18 August 2011 Every now and then, when you get a regime change ( or two!) a player for whatever reason is not able to fit into that new style of play the new training methods or just doesn't posses the abilities that the new manager wants to base his formation and tactics on. Now is that regime and Waghorn is that player. I loved the guy when he first signed for us... But it makes no sense to have a 2-3m young promising striker sitting on the bench doing nothing. The time has come to sell.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 18 August 2011 Posted 18 August 2011 Get rid of him, he's complete horseshit. Would much rather see Schlupp.
lcfcnoely Posted 18 August 2011 Posted 18 August 2011 He is playing out of position but I am pretty sure he would be equally useless up front. This! Exactly!
lcfcnoely Posted 18 August 2011 Posted 18 August 2011 It's got to a stage that when he comes on when were losing all my hope of us getting back in the game dies....
cambridgefox Posted 18 August 2011 Posted 18 August 2011 Anywhere.i got slated a year or so ago for saying he was overated and not as good as people made out! FFS listen in the future
leicesterthroughandthrough Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 Waghorn IQ > LCFC@ This. Waggy did a lot on loan, and if given the chance can win matches.
hbkkids Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 get rid of him??? he needs playing time, he scored about 12 goals a few seasons ago, you can not say that was a fluke! he just has not found his scoring boots yet!!!
bluearmyfox23 Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 get rid of him??? he needs playing time, he scored about 12 goals a few seasons ago, you can not say that was a fluke! he just has not found his scoring boots yet!!! Maybe nigel pearson nicked them ?
leicesterthroughandthrough Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 He is playing out of position but I am pretty sure he would be equally useless up front. What, based on the fact that when he did play up front he had a hell of an impact and scored for fun...?
The Doctor Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 What, based on the fact that when he did play up front he had a hell of an impact and scored for fun...? No based on the fact his control is non-existent and his shooting has no finesse.
leicesterthroughandthrough Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 No based on the fact his control is non-existent and his shooting has no finesse. That didn't seem the case when he scored 12 goals in a loan spell while up front...
The Doctor Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 That didn't seem the case when he scored 12 goals in a loan spell while up front... It was however the case last season, pre-season and so far this season.
leicesterthroughandthrough Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 It was however the case last season, pre-season and so far this season. Out of position more recently...
The Doctor Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 Out of position more recently... whether he's out of position or not doesn't make a jot of difference as to whether he can control the ball or whether he can get any of his shots on target.
leicesterthroughandthrough Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 whether he's out of position or not doesn't make a jot of difference as to whether he can control the ball or whether he can get any of his shots on target. The post that I originally quoted said that he'd probably be terrible up front. I said based on how well he has done up front. He obviously can get some shots on target if he scored 12 goals in a loan spell. I wasn't disputing how good his control is.
gazfox9 Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 As others have said, I too think he needs a loan. Maybe to league 1, where he should bang in a few goals and regain some confidence, his looks shot at the minute. A couple of months somewhere should do it, and if that don't work, I think the time would come to sell him.
Jimmy Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 Out of position more recently... read below All this "he's playing out of position" talk, frankly is bullshit, When Pearson brought him in at the start we played 4-4-2 but by about November Pearson was using a 4-3-3 too and Waghorn was playing EXACTLY where he played last night from the right hand side. The simple fact is his development has stagnated, as a footballer, if Chrissy P wants a striker from us send Waghorn out on loan and see if that breaks him out of this atrocious form he's been in since he came back to the club. Also we can play 4-4-2 we'd just have to do it the same was as Norwich, with a diamond, which would work for us or fot those of you too think to understand HE PLAYED RIGHT WING UNDER PEARSON AND PEOPLE THOUGHT HE COULD DO IT THEN he's played there before, for us, very well so he IS NOT OUT OF POSITION completely yes its not his favoured position but frankly he's not good enough for that position either
Jollie Posted 19 August 2011 Posted 19 August 2011 read below or fot those of you too think to understand HE PLAYED RIGHT WING UNDER PEARSON AND PEOPLE THOUGHT HE COULD DO IT THEN he's played there before, for us, very well so he IS NOT OUT OF POSITION completely yes its not his favoured position but frankly he's not good enough for that position either this.... oh, and another thing... Jimmy Kebe
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