So why no announcement of Pearson?

[Happy Fox]

Their is no point reasoning with Hull, NP just resign and make things easier for us.

[Guest shearfox]

Exactly. Huddersfield usually take a large following wherever they go. I still class them as a big club.

Since I hade been watching football for the past 20 years they have done nothing.

[ruisliptiger]

I'm not trying do defend our board and their tactics. I'm as yet undecided on my opinion of them. I'm merely trying to make a general point about the lack of value of managers these days and the level of compensation you will be paying to Eriksson.

It's not just Pearson. Perhaps all managers should hold more value shouldn't they?

[Guest shearfox]

Were taking about average attendances now,I'm pretty sure back in the day Hudders had alot more attending there games.

Back in the day exactly... But modern football no, sorry but a big club is like Leeds and Southampton, clubs that have been in the top league in the past 20 years.

[Guest Basildon Fox]

There not bad attendances for a Town club either,They've got a good fan base but there stadium only holds 24,500 ours holds 32,500 and our average attendance is only 23,080 so it is about the same.

There is absolutely no logic in that what so ever. The only thing you can deduce from that is we get more bums on seats so need a bigger stadium. They haven't even had anything approaching a sell out in years. Face it stats say they have won some titles many, many years ago but reality is that they have been dicking around in the bottom 2 divisions for donkeys years and average under 13,000 per game.

[Fox92]

Since I hade been watching football for the past 20 years they have done nothing.

Because they have been in the lower regions of the table in the past few years. Liverpool haven't win a title since 1990, more than 20 years ago; do you class them as a small/average club? No.

You can't just talk about what they have recently won, otherwise only Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United can be classed as big clubs. Huddersfield have won a lot of trophies.

Do you think Leicester are a big club?

[Jordan]

If Pearson were to resign and sign with Leicester before his current contract with Hull were to have expired, I'm sure Leicester would still have to pay compensation to Hull some way or another. The only other way for Pearson to go is if Hull and Pearson come to "mutual agreement".to terminate his employment, and Hull buy out Pearson's contract--and even then, I can see Hull suing Leicester for damages for tapping up Pearson. They'd sooner put him on gardening leave than pay him to **** off to Leicester--Hull aren't gonna let him go without themselves getting paid.

Pearson's employment agreement with Hull is not at-will. If managers could just walk away from deals whenever a better offer came along, Pearson would have resigned on Monday.

[Guest shearfox]

Because they have been in the lower regions of the table in the past few years. Liverpool haven't win a title since 1990, more than 20 years ago; do you class them as a small/average club? No.

You can't just talk about what they have recently won, otherwise only Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United can be classed as big clubs. Huddersfield have won a lot of trophies.

Do you think Leicester are a big club?

Liverpool have regularly been amougst the top 4 clubs for years and won the CL so yep they are massive. I also said Leeds are big and Southampton so are Sheffield Wednesday but Huddersfield not at all sorry

[Happy Fox]

Nigel Pearson has to resign, their is no alternative if he doesn't then we are well and truly messed up, the owners are not going to be held ransom, we agree a price with them and they move the goal posts and want more money this stinks of another Maynard situation, we should not bother and look elsewhere their are other good managerial candidates in Billy Davies,Dave Jones, Mark Hughes and MON.

[accessory]

Because they have been in the lower regions of the table in the past few years. Liverpool haven't win a title since 1990, more than 20 years ago; do you class them as a small/average club? No.

You can't just talk about what they have recently won, otherwise only Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United can be classed as big clubs. Huddersfield have won a lot of trophies.

Do you think Leicester are a big club?

It's not just about trophies. Otherwise the public school teams who won the FA Cup in its early years (before the Fosse were even formed) would be classified as bigger teams than us, which is clearly absurd..

[Guest Basildon Fox]

Because they have been in the lower regions of the table in the past few years. Liverpool haven't win a title since 1990, more than 20 years ago; do you class them as a small/average club? No.

You can't just talk about what they have recently won, otherwise only Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United can be classed as big clubs. Huddersfield have won a lot of trophies.

Do you think Leicester are a big club?

Are you comparing Liverpool to Huddersfield?

I think Leicester are certainly a bigger and better established club than Huddersfield. Why do you think Peltier came to us? Why did Pilkington go to Norwch? Answer - because they want to progress in football and see us as far better clubs to do this with. Now as neither us or Norwich are the biggest clubs in English football, what does that make Huddersfield?

[Jordan]

Why does every thread on this forum have to degenerate into a stupid argument about which clubs are bigger than each other? What, why and how does this even matter to anything?

[Fox92]

Nigel Pearson has to resign, their is no alternative if he doesn't then we are well and truly messed up, the owners are not going to be held ransom, we agree a price with them and they move the goal posts and want more money this stinks of another Maynard situation, we should not bother and look elsewhere their are other good managerial candidates in Billy Davies,Dave Jones, Mark Hughes and MON.

Yeah, I agree. If the deal doesn't happen, he can't really go back and manage Hull, can he? What is their opinion of him now?

[davieG]

This brinkmanship at it's finest and would appear to involve to very stubborn businessmen.

Hull hold all the cards with Pearson's contract if the want to they could stop him working for the next 18months or so even if it eventually costs them money and time.

As I've said previously besides wanting to maximise their potential income from this deal they could quite easily be starting their interviewing process to find a replacement it's not exactly unknown as we must have done that with both Sousa and Sven.

[Guest shearfox]

Why does every thread on this forum have to degenerate into a stupid argument about which clubs are bigger than each other? What, why and how does this even matter to anything?

Can't help myself when someone says something stupid they need correcting

Plus the Pearson stuff is getting boring...

[wurmer]

Why does every thread on this forum have to degenerate into a stupid argument about which clubs are bigger than each other? What, why and how does this even matter to anything?

Boredom?

[kyle09uk]

There not bad attendances for a Town club either,They've got a good fan base but there stadium only holds 24,500 ours holds 32,500 and our average attendance is only 23,080 so it is about the same.

So if they had a stadium as big as ours

They would have 1000's more fans turning

up each week?

[gazfox9]

Thing is you must have forked out close to 2 million to be rid on Eriksson. If the board regard him as not good enough and Pearson as the answer, then surely 2 Million is worth paying. Considering a manager is the most important person at a club, you'd think they would be the most expensive.

Consider this. Waghorn, who hasn't been starting regularly at Leicester is Valued at 3 Million. Pearson, the person trusted with guiding you to the Premier League with all the riches that go along with it. Is currently valued by your board at 1 Million.

Doesn't make sense does it.

Woah,woah,woah, hold it there, he isn't valued at three million,thats what we paid for him. (well, 2 million poss rising to 3 on circumstances). To think anyone would pay anywhere near that on recent form is absurd.

[Happy Fox]

Yeah, I agree. If the deal doesn't happen, he can't really go back and manage Hull, can he? What is their opinion of him now?

If Nigel wanted to come here he could have resigned clearly doesn't want to be here, I am well and truly pissed off this an absolute farce the owners should go for MON or Billy Davies now!!

[Fox92]

It's not just about trophies. Otherwise the public school teams who won the FA Cup in its early years (before the Fosse were even formed) would be classified as bigger teams than us, which is clearly absurd..

I know, I said that earlier if you read back.

Are you comparing Liverpool to Huddersfield?

I think Leicester are certainly a bigger and better established club than Huddersfield. Why do you think Peltier came to us? Why did Pilkington go to Norwch? Answer - because they want to progress in football and see us as far better clubs to do this with. Now as neither us or Norwich are the biggest clubs in English football, what does that make Huddersfield?

I'm not comparing Liverpool to Huddersfield, I used Liverpool as an example.

Why do you see Leicester as a big club? And players like Peltier and Pilkington leave because they probably want to play at a higher level, both of those players were released by Manchester United and Liverpool, after all.

Why does every thread on this forum have to degenerate into a stupid argument about which clubs are bigger than each other? What, why and how does this even matter to anything?

I stated something, and it turned into an argument.

[Cropwellfox]

What a mess - there are no winners from this situation. The amount of money being demanded (through conjecture more than fact) for NP will mean that if he ends up here he will be under intolerable pressure to deliver from the start - although this is rediculous given the amount shelled out on Beckford. Should we walk away NP's relationship with Hull and the fans will be horribly strained, and resigning isn't an option for NP unless he wishes not to work for the remainder of his contract (18 months i would guess?) , as it's clear that if Hulls demands aren't met he'll be on garden leave for the remainder of his contract.

Who takes the blame for this alleged impasse - there's probably two sides to the story, but nobody wins out of it, and NP must be absolutely livid with the whole thing. Something needs to give, unfortunately I see us blinking first and walking away which would be a huge shame - although i wouldn't put it past NP to carry on at Hull and succeed there despite everything.

[ruisliptiger]

For those of you who are unaware, we have Egyptian owners. They knocked our previous owner down so far he walked away with nothing. There may be question marks hanging over their ability to run a football club but you can't knock their ability to haggle. It's in the blood.

[Fox92]

What a mess - there are no winners from this situation. The amount of money being demanded (through conjecture more than fact) for NP will mean that if he ends up here he will be under intolerable pressure to deliver from the start - although this is rediculous given the amount shelled out on Beckford. Should we walk away NP's relationship with Hull and the fans will be horribly strained, and resigning isn't an option for NP unless he wishes not to work for the remainder of his contract (18 months i would guess?) , as it's clear that if Hulls demands aren't met he'll be on garden leave for the remainder of his contract.

Who takes the blame for this alleged impasse - there's probably two sides to the story, but nobody wins out of it, and NP must be absolutely livid with the whole thing. Something needs to give, unfortunately I see us blinking first and walking away which would be a huge shame - although i wouldn't put it past NP to carry on at Hull and succeed there despite everything.

Good post, that sums it up for me.

I obviously hope the deal goes through. I don't think I can remember a deal going on this long despite both parties agreeing a deal of somesort days ago.

[Schlupp]

Are you comparing Liverpool to Huddersfield?

I think Leicester are certainly a bigger and better established club than Huddersfield. Why do you think Peltier came to us? Why did Pilkington go to Norwch? Answer - because they want to progress in football and see us as far better clubs to do this with. Now as neither us or Norwich are the biggest clubs in English football, what does that make Huddersfield?

Just because a club is in a lower tier in the moment doesn't make them a lesser club,Forest and Leeds are a prime example of this there both big clubs in the championship,Doesn't make them lesser of a club same with Huddersfield.

[davieG]

If Nigel wanted to come here he could have resigned clearly doesn't want to be here, I am well and truly pissed off this an absolute farce the owners should go for MON or Billy Davies now!!

Resigning wont solve the problem unless they accept the resignation which they wont until they agree compensation, they hold his contract and 'could' prevent him from managing another club until that contract expires provided they are prepared to continue to pay him. A case of cutting their nose off to spite their face but it gives them a strong hand to play.

This is all just a case of negotiation but with 2 hard nosed businessmen both trying to get the best deal.